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Dropspeed · 03-21-2014, 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jrhagen

It wasn't an accident. Accidents are unavoidable. This was absolutely avoidable had the other driver been doing their job and paying attention.

Call this what it was: a wreck or collision.

chef-beavis · 03-21-2014, 10:05 AM

My post in another thread, speaking of diminished value. I'd seek damages for it if the car is to be repaired. Sorry for you loss...

I have a buddy that got a hit to the rear in his CTS-V recently and succeeded in getting diminished value $. His dealer said that anything they buy or take on trade with a carfax reported damage incident get deducted 50% of the damage cost from the value.

Look at it this way:

You find car "A" and car "B" wherever while shopping. Car "A" has a spotless record, car "B" has had a $12k collision repaired. Which car are you going to buy, if the price is equal and all other variables are on par? The only incentive that is going to persuade you to buy car "B" is if the owner can tell you it's $5k cheaper and convince you the repair is sound. That's not even enough for some folks to buy it.

This keeps the owner from suffering that hit for an accident that was not his own fault. He was made less than whole, financially. For most of us, our car is the second largest investment we make. You have to protect that.

Diode Dynamics · 03-21-2014, 10:13 AM

Glad to hear you are ok!

Make sure you get yourself checked out! Just because it doesn't hurt now, doesn't mean it won't in a few days. I'm sorry to see your 1LE like that, it's a shame

Nick C.

ST1LE · 03-21-2014, 10:17 AM

Glad you are ok, and hope upi get this figured out quickly!

Mannsiam · 03-21-2014, 10:45 AM

Ok accident was a bad word but by definition 99.9% of crashes are not accidents then. Because everything is almost avoidable. So no one here goes 1 mile over the speed limit if you hit something its not an accident you were speeding or you were following to closely or you were changing a radio station or something. I agree the OP needs to get reembursed for his car and any money already invested but to sue for mental anguish because of losing your dream car is stupid. Or suing just to sue to get money is stupid. I guess I just have integrity, if i wasnt seriously injured and they paid for everything I would be happy that it was covered and I was ok. And as for 2013 being hard to get becaue of the refresh. There are quite a few out there for sale even new 2013 that have not been sold yet.

sdmbdad71 · 03-21-2014, 11:00 AM

Thanks to all of you for the posts, there is some good information contained within them.

I am very pleased with the way the car handled the impact.... it proved to be very solid.

It's too early for me to know how everything will play out in regard to the car, I don't have any real information on the extent of damages. Part of me wants her fixed, but I'm also hating the idea of having a repaired track car that may not be capable of running at the track.

I'm will accept what the law allows for in my case. I'm not necessarily the litigious type and am not looking for anything outside of being made whole, if that's possible.

Really the whole situation is just unfortunate.

I will update when I have more information in regard to repair/replacement of my car. No matter what, I will be driving a Camaro when it's all said and done.

jrhagen · 03-21-2014, 11:13 AM

As long as he is made whole to pre-collision state, that is what the law and process should provide. If not, litigation is the only avenue.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mannsiam

Ok accident was a bad word but by definition 99.9% of crashes are not accidents then. Because everything is almost avoidable. So no one here goes 1 mile over the speed limit if you hit something its not an accident you were speeding or you were following to closely or you were changing a radio station or something. I agree the OP needs to get reembursed for his car and any money already invested but to sue for mental anguish because of losing your dream car is stupid. Or suing just to sue to get money is stupid. I guess I just have integrity, if i wasnt seriously injured and they paid for everything I would be happy that it was covered and I was ok. And as for 2013 being hard to get becaue of the refresh. There are quite a few out there for sale even new 2013 that have not been sold yet.

Mannsiam · 03-21-2014, 12:01 PM

^^^^^^ Agreed

BLK1LE · 03-21-2014, 12:17 PM

Sorry about your car, glad your ok!!

ST1LE · 03-21-2014, 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mannsiam

Ok accident was a bad word but by definition 99.9% of crashes are not accidents then. Because everything is almost avoidable. So no one here goes 1 mile over the speed limit if you hit something its not an accident you were speeding or you were following to closely or you were changing a radio station or something. I agree the OP needs to get reembursed for his car and any money already invested but to sue for mental anguish because of losing your dream car is stupid. Or suing just to sue to get money is stupid. I guess I just have integrity, if i wasnt seriously injured and they paid for everything I would be happy that it was covered and I was ok. And as for 2013 being hard to get becaue of the refresh. There are quite a few out there for sale even new 2013 that have not been sold yet.

+1

Dave1222 · 03-21-2014, 02:42 PM

Diminished value is something you can fight for and win depending on where you are. I was rear ended in my of my last cars and received an additional 3k in "diminished value". IF I were you, however, I would want the car totaled.

cornerspeed92 · 03-21-2014, 03:04 PM

One of my biggest fears.Too bad the IDIOT didn't die!!!! Probably sounds harsh,but im a hater,i hate stupid people.They way i figure it is,this world wouldn't be so bad if it weren't for the losers and idiots of society that we had to worry about,and in my defense of being so ...to the point.I have been driving for what about 35 years and i have never hit anybody,accidents are avoidable,the idiots just need to pull their head out of their ass!

gajagfan · 03-21-2014, 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mannsiam

Ok accident was a bad word but by definition 99.9% of crashes are not accidents then. Because everything is almost avoidable. So no one here goes 1 mile over the speed limit if you hit something its not an accident you were speeding or you were following to closely or you were changing a radio station or something. I agree the OP needs to get reembursed for his car and any money already invested but to sue for mental anguish because of losing your dream car is stupid. Or suing just to sue to get money is stupid. I guess I just have integrity, if i wasnt seriously injured and they paid for everything I would be happy that it was covered and I was ok. And as for 2013 being hard to get becaue of the refresh. There are quite a few out there for sale even new 2013 that have not been sold yet.

Well said! And for all of you on here that have never made a mistake, you are the first I have ever met. Pleased to meet you!

1LE Captain · 03-21-2014, 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jrhagen

As long as he is made whole to pre-collision state, that is what the law and process should provide. If not, litigation is the only avenue.

Pre-collision state is that his car was worth X. Now that it was damaged it will reduce the value of the fully repaired car to Y.

X-Y=Z You should accept nothing less than your car repaired to original state and $Z.

You should ask local LEO's to pull the persons cell phone record to see if they were texting or talking on the phone. If they were there might be some serious charges due here.

An no I am not a Lawyer, but I am married to a damn good one.

03-21-2014, 10:13 AM	#31
Diode Dynamics Drives: Camaro Lighting Experts Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 2,429	Glad to hear you are ok! Make sure you get yourself checked out! Just because it doesn't hurt now, doesn't mean it won't in a few days. I'm sorry to see your 1LE like that, it's a shame Nick C. __________________ John C. Diode Dynamics Follow Us: FB // IG // YT // TikTok

03-21-2014, 10:17 AM	#32
ST1LE Drives: E92 BMW M3 Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Houston Posts: 4,496	Glad you are ok, and hope upi get this figured out quickly! __________________ SOLD - 2013 1LE - Pat G Spec'd Cam, NPP with 1 7/8" Long Tube Headers with High Flow Cats, Intake w/scoop, Ported Throttle Body, and Apex 1.25" Lowering Springs. J-Rod Built and Matt@FSP Tuned

03-21-2014, 10:45 AM	#33
Mannsiam Drives: 2014 Camaro 1SS/RS 1LE Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 441 View My Garage	Ok accident was a bad word but by definition 99.9% of crashes are not accidents then. Because everything is almost avoidable. So no one here goes 1 mile over the speed limit if you hit something its not an accident you were speeding or you were following to closely or you were changing a radio station or something. I agree the OP needs to get reembursed for his car and any money already invested but to sue for mental anguish because of losing your dream car is stupid. Or suing just to sue to get money is stupid. I guess I just have integrity, if i wasnt seriously injured and they paid for everything I would be happy that it was covered and I was ok. And as for 2013 being hard to get becaue of the refresh. There are quite a few out there for sale even new 2013 that have not been sold yet. __________________ Yeah Im a Chevy Guy. 11 Silverado, 12 Malibu, 14 Camaro 1LE

03-21-2014, 12:01 PM	#36
Mannsiam Drives: 2014 Camaro 1SS/RS 1LE Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 441 View My Garage	^^^^^^ Agreed __________________ Yeah Im a Chevy Guy. 11 Silverado, 12 Malibu, 14 Camaro 1LE

03-21-2014, 03:04 PM	#40
cornerspeed92 Drives: 2013 1SS 1LE Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Colorado Posts: 4,188 View My Garage	One of my biggest fears.Too bad the IDIOT didn't die!!!! Probably sounds harsh,but im a hater,i hate stupid people.They way i figure it is,this world wouldn't be so bad if it weren't for the losers and idiots of society that we had to worry about,and in my defense of being so ...to the point.I have been driving for what about 35 years and i have never hit anybody,accidents are avoidable,the idiots just need to pull their head out of their ass! __________________

03-21-2014, 10:05 AM	#30
chef-beavis Drives: IOM 2013 2SS/RS, Greenie, 06 FXSTBi Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Turd Town, WI Posts: 1,588	My post in another thread, speaking of diminished value. I'd seek damages for it if the car is to be repaired. Sorry for you loss... I have a buddy that got a hit to the rear in his CTS-V recently and succeeded in getting diminished value $. His dealer said that anything they buy or take on trade with a carfax reported damage incident get deducted 50% of the damage cost from the value. Look at it this way: You find car "A" and car "B" wherever while shopping. Car "A" has a spotless record, car "B" has had a $12k collision repaired. Which car are you going to buy, if the price is equal and all other variables are on par? The only incentive that is going to persuade you to buy car "B" is if the owner can tell you it's $5k cheaper and convince you the repair is sound. That's not even enough for some folks to buy it. This keeps the owner from suffering that hit for an accident that was not his own fault. He was made less than whole, financially. For most of us, our car is the second largest investment we make. You have to protect that.

03-21-2014, 11:00 AM	#34
sdmbdad71 Drives: 2013 VR 1SS/RS/1LE/NPP Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Palm Coast, FL Posts: 182 View My Garage	Thanks to all of you for the posts, there is some good information contained within them. I am very pleased with the way the car handled the impact.... it proved to be very solid. It's too early for me to know how everything will play out in regard to the car, I don't have any real information on the extent of damages. Part of me wants her fixed, but I'm also hating the idea of having a repaired track car that may not be capable of running at the track. I'm will accept what the law allows for in my case. I'm not necessarily the litigious type and am not looking for anything outside of being made whole, if that's possible. Really the whole situation is just unfortunate. I will update when I have more information in regard to repair/replacement of my car. No matter what, I will be driving a Camaro when it's all said and done.

03-21-2014, 12:17 PM	#37
BLK1LE Drives: 2014 Black 1LE SS Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: CT Posts: 154	Sorry about your car, glad your ok!!

03-21-2014, 02:42 PM	#39
Dave1222 Drives: 2010 CAMARO SS/RS Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Northern VA Posts: 80	Diminished value is something you can fight for and win depending on where you are. I was rear ended in my of my last cars and received an additional 3k in "diminished value". IF I were you, however, I would want the car totaled.