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chevyss · 08-01-2009, 09:57 PM

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Houston94vert · 08-01-2009, 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Moderator4SS

Bro, talk about uneducated

... $70k for HPE? C'mon, do your research before you look so "uneducated"

(FYI... a stock 1SS MSRP $30,245 + HPE550 installed is $14,950 or LPE570 is $10,995 = $45,195 or $41,240 for LPE)

Really??

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2010-...=p4506.c0.m245

I said 70k in general. Sales taxes, delivery etc... might as well be 70k.

So for 63k I get 562 hp? or for 50k get 540 with factory warranty?? 13k more for 22 hp. LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Again, tuner vs factory..

Everyone is arguing... oh just wait..buy my camaro and spend x and beat any gt500.. blah blah blah. Again, not a factory to factory comparision. Again..shouldn't be one. The gt500 is in a different class end of story.

Bang for the buck will always argue.. I mean right now you can walk onto a ford dealer an pick up an 2009 mustang gt brand new for about 23k.... let me know what 7-10 k would do to a 33k camaro. (oh wait..go read a thread I started in the vs section.. my little mustang with less than 1000 dollars in mods can beat a stock ss auto!! lol.)

End of the day...

This comparision is just to make people argue.

Both are great cars..but people that are trying to argue the camaro is better in performance is seriously stretching. Once you start adding mods and money the game is over..because nobody can compare straight up. Both are different types of cars to begin with people!!!!!!

Anyways..just bored and thought I would read some more of this humor from camaro fanboy's replies. Keep them coming!!!

ironpeddler · 08-02-2009, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by garagelogic

While I do think the 2010 will hit the 11's in stock form at some point, I'll retain some skepticism about this particular run. Too many questionable things or things that we've never seen documented before. A 1.6x 60ft on the stock Goodyears? No way. Especially when he says he did a "big ole burnout". Big burnouts on street tires = greasy tires, not sticky ones.

Tires will be the bane on this car. Not big enough stock IMHO. Will burn those things up in no time. I'm already doing it lol. I haven't looked at how much one tire is but I'm sure it will probably be $300-$500.

Speed74SS · 08-02-2009, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Houston94vert

Really??

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2010-...=p4506.c0.m245

I said 70k in general. Sales taxes, delivery etc... might as well be 70k.

So for 63k I get 562 hp? or for 50k get 540 with factory warranty?? 13k more for 22 hp. LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Again, tuner vs factory..

Everyone is arguing... oh just wait..buy my camaro and spend x and beat any gt500.. blah blah blah. Again, not a factory to factory comparision. Again..shouldn't be one. The gt500 is in a different class end of story.

Bang for the buck will always argue.. I mean right now you can walk onto a ford dealer an pick up an 2009 mustang gt brand new for about 23k.... let me know what 7-10 k would do to a 33k camaro. (oh wait..go read a thread I started in the vs section.. my little mustang with less than 1000 dollars in mods can beat a stock ss auto!! lol.)

End of the day...

This comparision is just to make people argue.

Both are great cars..but people that are trying to argue the camaro is better in performance is seriously stretching. Once you start adding mods and money the game is over..because nobody can compare straight up. Both are different types of cars to begin with people!!!!!!

Anyways..just bored and thought I would read some more of this humor from camaro fanboy's replies. Keep them coming!!!

First you argue about the price is not fair using the Hennessey $70k car with all exterior modifications as well, not a good comparison!! I will tell you my LPE Camaro with 570hp is less than $50k out the door. Agreed that the SS stock is not a comparison to the GT500 stock. I think people are just trying to argue that the GT500 is supercharged and the SS is not. So we put a S/C on it to be fair. Then the arguement is not forged internals for the SS. Then the arguement is tires for the GT500. We can go on all day like this. Then we go back to, "Well I can get an 09 GT for 23K and make it faster". Sounds great, go for it. I can buy an 02 SS for less than you can buy an 09 for and make it faster. And on, and on, and on.... In the end they are both great cars and I love to see both of them on the street!!!

carsismeZ06 · 08-02-2009, 11:20 AM

Not very fair. I think it would be fair to test the SS vs. the GT with some of Ford's performance parts.

Zeus · 08-02-2009, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by carsismeZ06

Not very fair. I think it would be fair to test the SS vs. the GT with some of Ford's performance parts.

wait till next year and the GT will have a price increase along with 400hp

Mod4SS · 08-02-2009, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Houston94vert

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2010-...=p4506.c0.m245

You're wanting to back up your claim with a price link from Ebay?

You have some serious issues. If you're not willing to do some real research, don't post immature comments.

Houston94vert · 08-03-2009, 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Moderator4SS

You're wanting to back up your claim with a price link from Ebay?

You have some serious issues. If you're not willing to do some real research, don't post immature comments.

I think a few others have called you out on your hennessey pricing. Are you saying that ebay price is incorrect?

Either way, like I've said, comparing a tuner car to a factory car is not a good comparision. As both cars have different type of origins and prices. Just as people could argue purchasing a cheaper mustang gt and spending 7-10k to beat a 33k camaro. Again your argument towards this whole thing makes no sense as it's based on adding performance modifications to a car.

That's my entire point.

KoTToN · 08-03-2009, 02:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Houston94vert

both cars have different type of origins and prices.

That's my entire point.

Im pretty sure gt500 originates from a mustang like the LPE or hennessey car would from a camaro. As far as pricing I think 40k is 40k no matter which way you look at it.

Bails · 08-03-2009, 03:17 AM

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Originally Posted by KoTToN

Im pretty sure gt500 originates from the factory unlike the LPE or hennessey car would from a tuner.

There ya go.

Ash1977 · 08-03-2009, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by KoTToN

Im pretty sure gt500 originates from a mustang like the LPE or hennessey car would from a camaro. As far as pricing I think 40k is 40k no matter which way you look at it.

Ford does not turn a Mustang into a Shelby GT500 like the Hennessey. It is a different car like the Z06. It is made by Ford. Not a tuner car.

Houston94vert · 08-03-2009, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by KoTToN

Im pretty sure gt500 originates from a mustang like the LPE or hennessey car would from a camaro. As far as pricing I think 40k is 40k no matter which way you look at it.

I didn't know LPE or Hennessey make camaros. I'm pretty sure ford makes mustangs and GM makes camaros.

As far as pricing goes..well if your only looking at the final price tag, go get an 2002 Camaro and spend 30k in mods.

Zeus · 08-03-2009, 11:57 AM

I think what we can take away from 12 pages of BS is that the 2010 GT500 is likely the best muscle car of all time, performance wise. The new Camaro is on the short list as well but cant touch the performance of the GT500. However, it is much more affordable and was never built to challenge the GT500. It was built to trump the GT, which, it did. If you want a camaro to go like the GT500 there are ways to do that, but id avoid comparing tuner cars to stock cars....

Ninjak · 08-03-2009, 01:01 PM

Zeus pretty much summed it up.

A stock GT 05~09 and even the new 2010GT to some degree will need the aftermarket to keep up with a stock 2010 Camaro.

A 2010 Camaro will need the aftermarket to keep up with a stock GT500 07~2010.

And thus it continues. We will not see a great comparison until the new 5.0's are out. Until then the above holds true.

08-02-2009, 11:20 AM	#285
carsismeZ06 Corvette and Camaro lover Drives: 2010 Camaro...some day... Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Ohio Posts: 983	Not very fair. I think it would be fair to test the SS vs. the GT with some of Ford's performance parts. __________________

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08-03-2009, 11:57 AM	#293
Zeus BOOOOOM MF'R!! Drives: to Chipotle daily Join Date: May 2009 Location: Flo-Rida Posts: 3,614	I think what we can take away from 12 pages of BS is that the 2010 GT500 is likely the best muscle car of all time, performance wise. The new Camaro is on the short list as well but cant touch the performance of the GT500. However, it is much more affordable and was never built to challenge the GT500. It was built to trump the GT, which, it did. If you want a camaro to go like the GT500 there are ways to do that, but id avoid comparing tuner cars to stock cars....

08-03-2009, 01:01 PM	#294
Ninjak Banned Drives: 08 GT Mustang \| 65 GT Notchbac Join Date: May 2009 Location: Miami Florida Posts: 819	Zeus pretty much summed it up. A stock GT 05~09 and even the new 2010GT to some degree will need the aftermarket to keep up with a stock 2010 Camaro. A 2010 Camaro will need the aftermarket to keep up with a stock GT500 07~2010. And thus it continues. We will not see a great comparison until the new 5.0's are out. Until then the above holds true.