1SS vs 2SS

[ZED SLED]

Originally Posted by gajagfan

This is a bit off topic, but I think explains my opinion of the features of the 2SS. The 2SS package cost the same as the 1LE package. Trying to keep the price down, the benefits of the 1LE far out weighed the benefits of the 2SS for us. That is a change of mind coming from a WS6 that was fully loaded. Now, having had the 1SS for almost a year, I am very happy with our decision. If money was no object, I am sure we would have gone with the 2SS as well, but again, we are very happy with the 1SS.

Very true, if you track your car, which most people don't.

[banter]

Originally Posted by Weichwolf

Since most of these cars only come out wen the sun does. I personally do not like burning my ass off on hot leather seats. Cloth to me is way cooler on those hot days. So 1 point for the 1SS. The heads up display is pretty cool and all but lets be honest with ourselves. The 5th gens are hard to see out of at every angle. So that is just one more thing blocking what little view i have. And the D.I.C is right in front of you and easy enough to see. So thats 2 points for the 1SS. And last but not least. The center concil gauge cluster. Other than nastalgia. The cluster is usless. It makes you take your eyes way to far off the road. And who cares how much boost you are making just before you die! (Mike Fihnagen)).. Besides its nice to have somewere to set my wallet and phone.. 3 points for the 1SS. So is it really worth spending the exta money for a 2SS?? Share your thoughts....

While I see where you're coming from (since I lived in Florida for 25 years) I just can't get over spending around $35k on a car that has cloth seats.

It doesn't block your view at all. I also thought it was unnecessary when I bought mine. I thought I would never use it and just have it off. I was wrong,it's always on, super convenient (def not a necessity but it's great to have) and when you're used to it and get ina car that doesn't have it, you miss it.

I agree, but it gets so many compliments.

Absolutely, yes. But then again, it's (cars) really about personal preferences.

[ChrisBlair]

I'm cheap. I bought a 1SS. But I also dislike leather seats summer and winter. Very cold or very hot. I'm going to buy the guage pack

[Andrew_MSU]

The HUD is a must have for me since the steering wheel completely blocks the tach.

The back up camera is a big plus since as you said the visibility is minimal.

I have never had hot seats. Somehow always seem to be cool even though they are black leather and I have no window tints.

I would have gotten the 1LE package though if it were available when I bought mine.

[ChrisBlair]

Originally Posted by Andrew_MSU

The HUD is a must have for me since the steering wheel completely blocks the tach.

The back up camera is a big plus since as you said the visibility is minimal.

I have never had hot seats. Somehow always seem to be cool even though they are black leather and I have no window tints.

I would have gotten the 1LE package though if it were available when I bought mine.

Couple questions, out of curioisty-

The tilt/telescoping wheel doesn't help with this?
How tall are you?
When you're in the seat and driving, are your arms straight out to use the wheel, or are your elbows slightly bent?

[the barber]

This should have been a poll to see what people prefer and like

[the barber]

Originally Posted by ChrisBlair

Couple questions, out of curioisty-

The tilt/telescoping wheel doesn't help with this?
How tall are you?
When you're in the seat and driving, are your arms straight out to use the wheel, or are your elbows slightly bent?

I have the same problem unless ur leaning all the way to the left the steering wheel cuts off the tach about 2500 rpm and unless ur driving like a trucker with the wheel all the way up and out its useless so the hud does come n handy and im only 5'8"
this is only an issue when racing when I wanna get up into the high rpms normal driving usually not looking at the tach

[Shiftgreen]

I am getting 2ss b/c I love leather seats, had leather seats in all my cars. My wife on the other hand loves cloth seats.

I think some of these cars comes with a little tint to the windows so I would think that would help a little from getting too hot. Not to mention I would have some kind of sun visor, even if it were cloth. Plus the smell of new leather is great !

Center gauges are nice, don't really care about the hud but it's still cool, you can turn it off if you dont like it. I mainly just wanted the leather though

[ClawSS]

2010 model year here so gauges and heated seats. Today it is a beautiful March day in KY...dry roads...sun...and 42 degrees. Time for the butt warmer.

PS...
I remove my wallet when I drive. Usually goes in the door pull pocket.
I remove my phone from the holster and it goes in the cup holder.
I also wear my pocket clip Leatherman on my left pocket so I don't scrape the bottom of the steering wheel on my ingress and egress.

[JamesMyBoy]

I vote for the 2SS/RS... Go for all the gusto you can afford!

[SS/RS VERT]

Originally Posted by 1LEMayhem

2SS also includes the cool frameless rearview mirror, homelink, upgraded stereo, rear vision, park sensors, heated power seats.

Some of those options can be bought separately with a 1SS, but to me the whole package is well worth the price.

I agree. Though I did prefer the suede inserts in my SRT8 over all leather. But HUD, homelink, and rear vision are a big plus for the 2SS.

[Baba]

Originally Posted by Weichwolf

Since most of these cars only come out wen the sun does.

I personally do not like burning my ass off on hot leather seats. Cloth to me is way cooler on those hot days. So 1 point for the 1SS.

The heads up display is pretty cool and all but lets be honest with ourselves. The 5th gens are hard to see out of at every angle. So that is just one more thing blocking what little view i have. And the D.I.C is right in front of you and easy enough to see. So thats 2 points for the 1SS.

And last but not least. The center concil gauge cluster. Other than nastalgia. The cluster is usless. It makes you take your eyes way to far off the road. And who cares how much boost you are making just before you die! (Mike Fihnagen))..

Besides its nice to have somewere to set my wallet and phone.. 3 points for the 1SS. So is it really worth spending the exta money for a 2SS?? Share your thoughts....

Let's be honest with ourselves...WTF are you talking about?

"Most of these cars" are daily drivers or damn near to it.
1 point for daily (or damn near to it) drivers!

Let's be honest...

are you talking about a convertible with the top down sitting in the full-on midday Arizona sun or someone who's just too damned lazy to put their sun shield in their windshield? I'll bet those cloth seats absorb one helluva lot more stink that a hot, sweaty, cheesy ass emits than leather seats ever would. No fuss, no muss, no stink.
1 point for using common sense by putting a sun shield in the windshield (or the 'vert top up) and 1 point for leather in the 2SS AND the 2LT. That makes 2 points!

Let's be honest...

anyone who's either read or test driven a Camaro is, somehow, aware of the limited visibility. The Head (not Heads) Up Display doesn't impede anyone's view through the windshield. The DIC, on the other hand, requires one to focus completely on it to read its display whereas the HUD allows for one's field of vision to still include the road.
1...no...2 points for HUD - because it's more safe than taking your eyes completely off the road, even for just 1 second.

Let's be honest...

the gauge cluster, while not "essential", is quite useful. If monitored, it serves as a nice little warning system BEFORE the CEL comes on (call it "insurance"). It kind of reminds me of people who don't check their oil or tire pressure. It's not absolutely essential until you get stuck in the middle of nowhere and wish you had been forewarned...somehow.
2 points for the gauge cluster because it serves a purpose beyond nostalgia and "aesthetics".

Let's be honest...

if you can't be bothered with having your wallet in the back pocket of your britches, don't bitch about the gauge cluster and do what the rest of those do who don't have that little "nook" to put their "umbilical cord" that connects to the rest of the world when they're isolated in their Camaro. Put it in the lidded console, glove box or on your front seat.
2 points for the above-mentioned and 1 "bonus" point for not bitching about the cluster taking up "valuable" space.

...you kind of remind me of this guy...



You make no mention of any of the positives of the things you chose not to opt for. Your comments allow for the impression that you sound critical, in a negative sense, of those who did select these options. Asking for "thoughts" when all you've done is criticize them, is an invitation to point this out.

If you have the need to "bolster your individual confidence in a previous domestic automotive purchase" (or being "chincy"), that's fine, but don't do it at the expense of creating the impression that those who chose a 2SS (or a 2LT) because of leather, gauge cluster and infotainment system, spent money on useless things.

Let's be honest with ourselves...who're you trying to kid?

[trashmanssd]

Originally Posted by Baba

Let's be honest with ourselves...WTF are you talking about?


if you can't be bothered with having your wallet in the back pocket of your britches, don't bitch about the gauge cluster and do what the rest of those do who don't have that little "nook" to put their "umbilical cord" that connects to the rest of the world when they're isolated in their Camaro. Put it in the lidded console, glove box or on your front seat.
2 points for the above-mentioned and 1 "bonus" point for not bitching about the cluster taking up "valuable" space.


Let's be honest with ourselves...who're you trying to kid?

I found my Wallet and phone fit well in the drivers door pull ( the little area you use to pull the door closed) and I don't have to worry about forgetting it in the car. I never put my wallet in my back pocket its a habit from driving a trash truck in bad neighbor hoods. leave it hidden in the truck so you cant get rolled just keep few singles in your pocket "sorry man that's all I got just a poor trashman".

[GARYSSS]

A lot of people with the 1SS say they didn't want the extra's that come with the 2SS, but if the price was the same. How many of you would have gone with the 2SS? All of us that bought a 2SS could have saved money and bought a 1SS, but we knew what we were getting, so we felt it was worth the money.