Mustang GT 5.0 vs Camaro SS 1LE

[Kid]

Originally Posted by treplatano

I ran my first AutoX with this car yesterday up here in the northeast with FCSCC(fairfield).

I was thinking of joining the club, but I work weekends. Do you still run at the old Army Plant?

What tires are the Boss' running? Sounds like they're a better cold weather compound. Your car should really stick if we can ever get out of the 30's.

[Mcarltonjr]

I had to take a couple times to read your review after reading all the comments that followed but I must say its mostly accurate. I dont agree about which was made to compete with what but that aside you hit alot of info thats accurate. Very well done review.

[treplatano]

Originally Posted by Kid

I was thinking of joining the club, but I work weekends. Do you still run at the old Army Plant?

What tires are the Boss' running? Sounds like they're a better cold weather compound. Your car should really stick if we can ever get out of the 30's.

He was running Michelin Pilot Sport(or Super Sport), but they are definitely a better autoX tire. Our tires turn to hard plastic in this weather.

There is an event on Monday Memorial day if you're around.

They still run on the army plant. Its not the best lost but im gonna try to get out to Metlife this year.

[Cody6.2]

Originally Posted by treplatano

the guy with the laguna seca told me he was already on his 2nd transmission + clutch and expected to break this one during the season. Evidently they use the same transmission as the GT model, and it can't handle the higher revs. Luckily the dealer is happy to swap it out for him.

Sounds more like someone doesn't know how to use a manual transmission & clutch correctly. Most of the issues that plagued the MT-82 have been somewhat taken care of. Not to mention plenty of cars with much more power and higher revs than a stock Boss302 LS are just fine.

[Novie LE]

Originally Posted by Cody6.2

Sounds more like someone doesn't know how to use a manual transmission & clutch correctly. Most of the issues that plagued the MT-82 have been somewhat taken care of. Not to mention plenty of cars with much more power and higher revs than a stock Boss302 LS are just fine.

What? Lol the transmission issue is still there. Rev a gt passed 7500 and it will stop shifting within a couple k miles. And if you look at the boss section nearly every e bitches about the transmission. Leave the redline alone and its fine.

[1QwikZ28]

Originally Posted by Novie LE

What? Lol the transmission issue is still there. Rev a gt passed 7500 and it will stop shifting within a couple k miles. And if you look at the boss section nearly every e bitches about the transmission. Leave the redline alone and its fine.

Do the same to a Camaro and it will do the same...not a GT specific problem.

[big hammer]

the problem with the mt82 trans is the junk clutch that's made in turkey. it doesn't release properly at high rpm. the higher you rev it, the worse it is. that's why it's more prevalent in the boss with it's 1000 rpm higher redline. the tranny takes all the abuse. I experienced it many times with a boss and guys are fixing it with a good twin disc setup.

[treplatano]

Originally Posted by big hammer

the problem with the mt82 trans is the junk clutch that's made in turkey. it doesn't release properly at high rpm. the higher you rev it, the worse it is. that's why it's more prevalent in the boss with it's 1000 rpm higher redline. the tranny takes all the abuse. I experienced it many times with a boss and guys are fixing it with a good twin disc setup.

this is exactly what the guy said. Ford wanted to install a better clutch and better transmission(i really don't know which one), but in order to keep the Laguna cost down, they didn't

[HeaterMan]

Originally Posted by big hammer

the problem with the mt82 trans is the junk clutch that's made in turkey. it doesn't release properly at high rpm. the higher you rev it, the worse it is. that's why it's more prevalent in the boss with it's 1000 rpm higher redline. the tranny takes all the abuse. I experienced it many times with a boss and guys are fixing it with a good twin disc setup.

there were more problems with the MT-82 than just the clutch. syncros, and other issues, I dumped my 6 speed manual GT after 4000 miles and don't regret it one bit

[big hammer]

Originally Posted by HeaterMan

there were more problems with the MT-82 than just the clutch. syncros, and other issues, I dumped my 6 speed manual GT after 4000 miles and don't regret it one bit

it's the clutch that takes out the synchros. and yes, the particular boss I was driving had the trans synchros go around 1500 miles. the high rpm shifting of that car was absolutely pathetic. it would lock you out of 2nd entirely. 5th was gone within 1200 miles. just sad.

all shifting issues were at high rpm.

[Todd in Vancouver]

Originally Posted by treplatano

I ran my first AutoX with this car yesterday up here in the northeast with FCSCC(fairfield). Overall it was exactly what I expected from the car in these temps. The car had no grip in the front or rear. They do not run heats with this club, so basically one run per hour.

I came back from my work shift, and managed to run back to back and saw a huge improvements right away on the second run. There were two Boss 302's and one of them was a laguna seca. Basically because of the tires I could not keep up with the boss(non laguna). At the end of the day I ran the car 7 times back to back and i was dropping 1-2 seconds per run, so in the end I did mark similar times but they don't count towards timed laps, these are so called "fun runs".

I plan on running at the metlife should the stars align. hopefully the weather is better

the guy with the laguna seca told me he was already on his 2nd transmission + clutch and expected to break this one during the season. Evidently they use the same transmission as the GT model, and it can't handle the higher revs. Luckily the dealer is happy to swap it out for him.

I'm by no means an experienced AutoX guy but I can tell you I'm definitely seeing an improvement the more I do. I just did another driver training/AutoX day this past Sunday and all the experienced guys and instructors all say the same thing which is there comes a point where you just need seat times.

In my case, my car is much more capable then I am so chasing down other cars for me is more a case of driver than it is the car. Just keep practicing and you'll soon be eating them all up and spitting them out.

[2012 Mustang GT]

Originally Posted by big hammer

it's the clutch that takes out the synchros. and yes, the particular boss I was driving had the trans synchros go around 1500 miles. the high rpm shifting of that car was absolutely pathetic. it would lock you out of 2nd entirely. 5th was gone within 1200 miles. just sad.

all shifting issues were at high rpm.

Problem with the shifting issues at high RPM's is the spring assist in the clutch assembly. remove the spring and that removes the issue with the pedal sticking to the floor. And the lock out issue is mostly the crap stock shift. I replaced mine with an MGW and haven't had the issue with the lock out since. Haven't had any other issues with my MT-82 and I am at the track usually atleast once a month and am right at 40,000 miles on it and the stock clutch.

[Novie LE]

Originally Posted by 2012 Mustang GT

Problem with the shifting issues at high RPM's is the spring assist in the clutch assembly. remove the spring and that removes the issue with the pedal sticking to the floor. And the lock out issue is mostly the crap stock shift. I replaced mine with an MGW and haven't had the issue with the lock out since. Haven't had any other issues with my MT-82 and I am at the track usually atleast once a month and am right at 40,000 miles on it and the stock clutch.

And you are probably shifting at 6800 right. Trust me its note than that. I removed the spring. Changed the clutch line, ran dot4 fluid, had the Mgw shifter and still nothing
People who replaced the clutch still have issues.

[big hammer]

Originally Posted by 2012 Mustang GT

Problem with the shifting issues at high RPM's is the spring assist in the clutch assembly. remove the spring and that removes the issue with the pedal sticking to the floor. And the lock out issue is mostly the crap stock shift. I replaced mine with an MGW and haven't had the issue with the lock out since. Haven't had any other issues with my MT-82 and I am at the track usually atleast once a month and am right at 40,000 miles on it and the stock clutch.

completely wrong.