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HDRDTD · 03-28-2014, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by X25

The official numbers are always based on the base model with no optional hardware or trim level. ZL1 is considered a model, so we have an official curb weight for its base model. 1LE, for instance, is just a package, so we have no official curb weight or EPA fuel consumption numbers for it. With its short gearing it would suffer from fuel consumption, but GM doesn't need to announce, and can actually use SS base model's better fuel consumption numbers in its window sticker due to 1LE just being a package. These rules are meant to make life a bit less complex and easier for the manufacturers, but they also cause these 'little' side effects : )

OK, but if the official weight is based on the base model (lightest configuration?), then how can someone's car (with gas) weigh less??

Jims73z · 03-28-2014, 01:49 PM

On the tire sticker on my ss it says not to exceed 732 lbs of of occupants and cargo.
Subtract from gvwr and you get 4667-732=3935 which should be about right for 2ssrs manual not scientific but would include full tank of gas and fluids.

jessrayo · 03-28-2014, 04:15 PM

I just weighed mine on Monday and it came in at 4100 with the roll cage, 1/3 tank of gas and 1 full bottle of nitrous, no driver. I have the lightest wheels and tires I own on the car, added racing brake lightweight rotors and swapped out the front and rear crash bars for lightweight replacements since the last weigh. The net gain with my last group of mods was 40 pounds for the cage and nitrous....and the nitrous bottle weighs 35 pounds so it was a good trade off.

X25 · 03-28-2014, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by HDRDTD

OK, but if the official weight is based on the base model (lightest configuration?), then how can someone's car (with gas) weigh less??

Assuming all fluids including gas are topped off, no option is a weight reducing option, and nothing is removed from the car (like spare tires, manuals, etc.), it should not. +-100lbs error is also not-so-uncommon on scales

Whos_Drivin · 03-28-2014, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by X25

The official numbers are always based on the base model with no optional hardware or trim level. ZL1 is considered a model, so we have an official curb weight for its base model. 1LE, for instance, is just a package, so we have no official curb weight or EPA fuel consumption numbers for it. With its short gearing it would suffer from fuel consumption, but GM doesn't need to announce, and can actually use SS base model's better fuel consumption numbers in its window sticker due to 1LE just being a package. These rules are meant to make life a bit less complex and easier for the manufacturers, but they also cause these 'little' side effects : )

So are verts different models then?

HDRDTD · 03-28-2014, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Whos_Drivin

So are verts different models then?

Yes.
A convertible is not an option available on a car, it's a car in itself.

joes407 · 03-28-2014, 06:43 PM

[QUOTE=X25;7533900]Assuming all fluids including gas are topped off, no option is a weight reducing option, and nothing is removed from the car (like spare tires, manuals, etc.), it should not. +-100lbs error is

I believe no sunroof is going to be a weight reducing option.

mrmarklin · 03-29-2014, 03:51 PM

GVWR or gross vehicle weight rating has nothing to do with actual weight of the vehicle itself. It refers to the max recommended weight of the vehicle when fully loaded with passengers, cargo etc.

Vehicle weight is affected by a lot of factors, such as options, amount of fluids etc etc.

Stephen12ZL1 · 03-29-2014, 04:11 PM

The gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR), or gross vehicle mass (GVM) is the maximum operating weight/mass of a vehicle as specified by the manufacturer including the vehicle's chassis, body, engine, engine fluids, fuel, accessories, driver, passengers and cargo but excluding that of any trailers.

Just in case anyone needs a definition of GVWR. Everyone thinks the door sticker is the empty weight of the car when in fact it is there for the weight rating with cargo and passengers included, etc.

axnhose · 03-30-2014, 10:40 PM

I started this tread to get the vehicle weight, not the GVW, or what the projected weight is, or what people think. If you have had your car WEIGHED at a scale, then that is what I am interested in.

I call it Vera · 03-31-2014, 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by axnhose

I started this tread to get the vehicle weight, not the GVW, or what the projected weight is, or what people think. If you have had your car WEIGHED at a scale, then that is what I am interested in.

What confuses me is: Why aren't the published specs sufficient?

white ZL1 · 03-31-2014, 07:41 AM

Weighed mine yesterday at the track, was 4060.
Had the 18's on the back and saved some weight with the headers so I'd say my sunroof A6 car is 4100lbs with a quarter tank.

joes407 · 03-31-2014, 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by axnhose

I started this tread to get the vehicle weight, not the GVW, or what the projected weight is, or what people think. If you have had your car WEIGHED at a scale, then that is what I am interested in.

Lol, told you in my first post mine weighed 4250 with me and half tank of fuel

axnhose · 03-31-2014, 04:39 PM

So, we have a few people that have actually weighed there ZL1s. Here they are...

Member...............Trans..........Weight........ ..Driver weight...........Fuel level.........Sunroof/Vert
White 2SS/RS.......A6..............4060..............no driver................1/4 tank...........sunroof
Joes407...............M6.............4250......... ....200.......................1/2 tank...........no sun roof
Brownster............M6.............4640.......... ....275......................full tank............vert
CanadianZL1#992..M6.............4380.............2 20.......................3/4 tank...........?
Big Dave..............?................4465........... ..245.......................1/2 tank...........?
Dlct3...................M6.............4135....... ......168.......................1/4 tank............sunroof
Crangie................?................4097...... .......no driver................full tank............no sun roof
Jessrayo..............M6..............4100........ .....no driver................1/3 tank...........no sun roof, with roll cage and NOS bottle
Drew P................A6..............4395............. .200......................1/2 tank...........no sun roof
Trackman.............?...............4465......... .....no driver................1/2 tank...........sun roof

I will try and keep it updated.

03-28-2014, 04:15 PM	#45
jessrayo Speed Freak Drives: 2013 ZL1 Camaro, 2016 Camaro SS Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Ardmore, OK Posts: 2,637 View My Garage	I just weighed mine on Monday and it came in at 4100 with the roll cage, 1/3 tank of gas and 1 full bottle of nitrous, no driver. I have the lightest wheels and tires I own on the car, added racing brake lightweight rotors and swapped out the front and rear crash bars for lightweight replacements since the last weigh. The net gain with my last group of mods was 40 pounds for the cage and nitrous....and the nitrous bottle weighs 35 pounds so it was a good trade off. __________________ 2016 SS -AGP twin Borg Warner 7163 EFR's, LT4 mechanical pump, LT4 injectors, Walbro 255 low side, Castrol SRF. 734whp/759 tq 2013 ZL1 -ADM - 427 LSX 6 bolt, O-ringed block built by LME. Twin PT6466 turbos. RPM custom manual trans, RPS Quad carbon clutch, 9" Hendrix rear diff & axles. ADM/squash fuel system, Ron Davis radiator, Spal fans, AGP air to air, turbo plumbing. LPE oil cooler, rear bushing upgrade, roll bar...etc. rwhp 1400+... 212.5mph, best Texas mile to date.

03-29-2014, 04:11 PM	#51
Stephen12ZL1 Drives: '21 ZLE A10 Join Date: May 2012 Location: Mechanicsville, VA Posts: 6,824	The gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR), or gross vehicle mass (GVM) is the maximum operating weight/mass of a vehicle as specified by the manufacturer including the vehicle's chassis, body, engine, engine fluids, fuel, accessories, driver, passengers and cargo but excluding that of any trailers. Just in case anyone needs a definition of GVWR. Everyone thinks the door sticker is the empty weight of the car when in fact it is there for the weight rating with cargo and passengers included, etc. __________________ '21 ZLE A10 Wild Cherry PDR 2:00.78 VIR Full 10.68@131.69 1.68 60' '17 ZL1 A10 Mosaic Black PDR/Nav 2:03.08 VIR Full 11.003@129.2 1.75 (sold) '15 Z/28 #325 Black a/c & stereo. 2:10.1 VIR Full (sold) '12 ZL1 A6 Black 10.52@131 1.55 60' 2:13 VIR Full (sold)

03-31-2014, 04:39 PM	#56
axnhose Drives: 2013 ZL1 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: California Posts: 122 View My Garage	So, we have a few people that have actually weighed there ZL1s. Here they are... Member...............Trans..........Weight........ ..Driver weight...........Fuel level.........Sunroof/Vert White 2SS/RS.......A6..............4060..............no driver................1/4 tank...........sunroof Joes407...............M6.............4250......... ....200.......................1/2 tank...........no sun roof Brownster............M6.............4640.......... ....275......................full tank............vert CanadianZL1#992..M6.............4380.............2 20.......................3/4 tank...........? Big Dave..............?................4465........... ..245.......................1/2 tank...........? Dlct3...................M6.............4135....... ......168.......................1/4 tank............sunroof Crangie................?................4097...... .......no driver................full tank............no sun roof Jessrayo..............M6..............4100........ .....no driver................1/3 tank...........no sun roof, with roll cage and NOS bottle Drew P................A6..............4395............. .200......................1/2 tank...........no sun roof Trackman.............?...............4465......... .....no driver................1/2 tank...........sun roof I will try and keep it updated. Last edited by axnhose; 04-02-2014 at 11:34 PM.

03-28-2014, 01:49 PM	#44
Jims73z Drives: 1973 z28 Rs , 2012 SS/Rs Blk/Blk M6 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Laguna Posts: 197	On the tire sticker on my ss it says not to exceed 732 lbs of of occupants and cargo. Subtract from gvwr and you get 4667-732=3935 which should be about right for 2ssrs manual not scientific but would include full tank of gas and fluids.

03-28-2014, 06:43 PM	#49
joes407 Drives: 2014 ZL1m6 red hot #569 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: florida Posts: 2,422	[QUOTE=X25;7533900]Assuming all fluids including gas are topped off, no option is a weight reducing option, and nothing is removed from the car (like spare tires, manuals, etc.), it should not. +-100lbs error is I believe no sunroof is going to be a weight reducing option.

03-29-2014, 03:51 PM	#50
mrmarklin Drives: ZL1 Blueray Metallic Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Burney, CA Posts: 37	GVWR or gross vehicle weight rating has nothing to do with actual weight of the vehicle itself. It refers to the max recommended weight of the vehicle when fully loaded with passengers, cargo etc. Vehicle weight is affected by a lot of factors, such as options, amount of fluids etc etc.

03-30-2014, 10:40 PM	#52
axnhose Drives: 2013 ZL1 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: California Posts: 122 View My Garage	I started this tread to get the vehicle weight, not the GVW, or what the projected weight is, or what people think. If you have had your car WEIGHED at a scale, then that is what I am interested in.

03-31-2014, 07:41 AM	#54
white ZL1 Drives: none Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: DFW area Posts: 1,844	Weighed mine yesterday at the track, was 4060. Had the 18's on the back and saved some weight with the headers so I'd say my sunroof A6 car is 4100lbs with a quarter tank.