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DefusingDanger · 04-01-2014, 09:03 AM

He's correct in that you will need to pull the dash. It's not the end of the world. It will simply take some time. Set aside a weekend and be tickled if you finishe early.

DefusingDanger · 04-01-2014, 09:47 AM

Try the below link. It is for installing HUD but it covers removal of the dash and may be what you are looking for.

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=146851

Steve@Subthump · 04-01-2014, 12:48 PM

I have to ask, why would you take apart the dash? The wires for the center speaker go all the way to the trunk. You can manipulate them there. In fact, they will be the only two wires on the x2 connector that are not connected, so it's real easy to pick them out. Just splice them into your source, whatever that may be.

rey · 04-01-2014, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve@********

I have to ask, why would you take apart the dash? The wires for the center speaker go all the way to the trunk. You can manipulate them there. In fact, they will be the only two wires on the x2 connector that are not connected, so it's real easy to pick them out. Just splice them into your source, whatever that may be.

Thank you for your words of wisdom. I tried contacting you through PM and email because I knew you had an answer, but I assumed you were busy with your business. If I buy your FARK, how can I wire the center speaker?

Adrian97c · 04-01-2014, 01:22 PM

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Thank you for your words of wisdom. I tried contacting you through PM and email because I knew you had an answer, but I assumed you were busy with your business. If I buy your FARK, how can I wire the center speaker?

Steve is def great w/ communication.. I don't know how to install anything with wires, completely useless.. But after a few conversations with him I'm confident to know what to buy & might even attempt the install w/o any assistance lol

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DefusingDanger · 04-01-2014, 01:28 PM

Steve has a great point. You can tap into the centers in the trunk. This would be the way to go if you don't mind leaving the center speaker stock. Shoot it may be a good idea even if you change out the center with a new one.

VeeGeeTea · 04-01-2014, 02:03 PM

This is how you would remove your center speaker, should you choose to do so.

rey · 04-01-2014, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by DefusingDanger

Steve has a great point. You can tap into the centers in the trunk. This would be the way to go if you don't mind leaving the center speaker stock. Shoot it may be a good idea even if you change out the center with a new one.

Do you think I still need the FARK or will I just be able to tap into those wires in the trunk? What will happen to the stock amp? Should I unplug anything or just let it stay the way it is? I will most definitely replace the center speaker with an after-market one.

rey · 04-01-2014, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by VeeGeeTea

This is how you would remove your center speaker, should you choose to do so.

Thanks. I will definitely do so.

VeeGeeTea · 04-01-2014, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by rey

Do you think I still need the FARK or will I just be able to tap into those wires in the trunk? What will happen to the stock amp? Should I unplug anything or just let it stay the way it is? I will most definitely replace the center speaker with an after-market one.

Stock amp can work with your aftermarket. Unless, you're picky with sound you don't need to purchase a 4 channel amp like I did to replace the stock. I also purchased a separate Class D Mono amp for the subs.

Regardless, you'll need the FARK, unless you're planning to run your own wires or cutting up existing wires.

rey · 04-01-2014, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by VeeGeeTea

Stock amp can work with your aftermarket. Unless, you're picky with sound you don't need to purchase a 4 channel amp like I did to replace the stock. I also purchased a separate Class D Mono amp for the subs.

Regardless, you'll need the FARK, unless you're planning to run your own wires or cutting up existing wires.

A big concern I have now is that the rear speakers are bi-amped. I don't know how to wire those properly. I might buy the FARK just to save me the trouble, but I want to know how I'll be able to still get the center speaker to work. I think Steve will have an answer to this, or maybe DefusingDanger.

VeeGeeTea · 04-01-2014, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by rey

A big concern I have now is that the rear speakers are bi-amped. I don't know how to wire those properly. I might buy the FARK just to save me the trouble, but I want to know how I'll be able to still get the center speaker to work. I think Steve will have an answer to this, or maybe DefusingDanger.

Perhaps this chart could assist you?

Steve@Subthump · 04-01-2014, 02:54 PM

The bigger question is, how are you going to power a 5th speaker? You can't use a 5 channel amp, the power will blow that thing in a second. Only thing I can see that you can do is either us a processor that creates a center channel or jump the input signal of either the left or right speaker (head unit power).

This is why we don't put wires on our harness for the center speaker. It drives up the cost of our harness and then nobody has a way to power it anyhow. And therefore makes no sense for us to do it. I don't have time to tell 500 people a year how to do it or that they need to buy a different amp or whatever. For me I like to keep it simple. Because once you amp the other front speakers, it will improve your soundstage and more than make up for the missing center speaker. In other words, you won't miss it.

rey · 04-01-2014, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve@********

The bigger question is, how are you going to power a 5th speaker? You can't use a 5 channel amp, the power will blow that thing in a second. Only thing I can see that you can do is either us a processor that creates a center channel or jump the input signal of either the left or right speaker (head unit power).

This is why we don't put wires on our harness for the center speaker. It drives up the cost of our harness and then nobody has a way to power it anyhow. And therefore makes no sense for us to do it. I don't have time to tell 500 people a year how to do it or that they need to buy a different amp or whatever. For me I like to keep it simple. Because once you amp the other front speakers, it will improve your soundstage and more than make up for the missing center speaker. In other words, you won't miss it.

Believe me, I understand what you are saying about not missing the center speaker. I completely do. I don't mind using a left or right channel. I just want to know the best way of getting it done without having to install a sound processor. I am worried that the speaker will blow if I use a channel, which is why I'm turning to y'all for advice. There has got to be a way.

If I buy your FARK and use that, can I still give power to the center speaker in any way? If so, how? (It sounds dumb to say, but I don't mind it being a left or right channel. The sound bouncing off the windshield is what I want.)

04-01-2014, 09:03 AM	#29
DefusingDanger Drives: 2013 AGM 1SS/RS Join Date: May 2013 Location: USA Posts: 99	He's correct in that you will need to pull the dash. It's not the end of the world. It will simply take some time. Set aside a weekend and be tickled if you finishe early. __________________ EOD is "A science of vague assumptions, based on debatable figures taken from inconclusive experiments, performed with instruments of problematical accuracy, by persons with doubtful reliability and questionable mentality"

04-01-2014, 09:47 AM	#30
DefusingDanger Drives: 2013 AGM 1SS/RS Join Date: May 2013 Location: USA Posts: 99	Try the below link. It is for installing HUD but it covers removal of the dash and may be what you are looking for. http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=146851 __________________ EOD is "A science of vague assumptions, based on debatable figures taken from inconclusive experiments, performed with instruments of problematical accuracy, by persons with doubtful reliability and questionable mentality"

04-01-2014, 01:28 PM	#34
DefusingDanger Drives: 2013 AGM 1SS/RS Join Date: May 2013 Location: USA Posts: 99	Steve has a great point. You can tap into the centers in the trunk. This would be the way to go if you don't mind leaving the center speaker stock. Shoot it may be a good idea even if you change out the center with a new one. __________________ EOD is "A science of vague assumptions, based on debatable figures taken from inconclusive experiments, performed with instruments of problematical accuracy, by persons with doubtful reliability and questionable mentality"

04-01-2014, 12:48 PM	#31
Steve@Subthump Account Suspended Drives: 2011 2SS IOM Vert Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Indiana Posts: 1,096	I have to ask, why would you take apart the dash? The wires for the center speaker go all the way to the trunk. You can manipulate them there. In fact, they will be the only two wires on the x2 connector that are not connected, so it's real easy to pick them out. Just splice them into your source, whatever that may be.

04-01-2014, 02:03 PM	#35
VeeGeeTea LEXi is Sassy and Classy Drives: 2012 Camaro 2LT RS Boston Acoustic Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Toronto, Ontario Posts: 510 View My Garage	This is how you would remove your center speaker, should you choose to do so.

04-01-2014, 02:54 PM	#41
Steve@Subthump Account Suspended Drives: 2011 2SS IOM Vert Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Indiana Posts: 1,096	The bigger question is, how are you going to power a 5th speaker? You can't use a 5 channel amp, the power will blow that thing in a second. Only thing I can see that you can do is either us a processor that creates a center channel or jump the input signal of either the left or right speaker (head unit power). This is why we don't put wires on our harness for the center speaker. It drives up the cost of our harness and then nobody has a way to power it anyhow. And therefore makes no sense for us to do it. I don't have time to tell 500 people a year how to do it or that they need to buy a different amp or whatever. For me I like to keep it simple. Because once you amp the other front speakers, it will improve your soundstage and more than make up for the missing center speaker. In other words, you won't miss it.