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Lessk · 06-04-2008, 11:12 PM

I personally think it looks good. But maybe a little too retro for this car? It's an updated version of a classic icon of American history.

I'd roll me a '77-'78 T/A with t-tops anyday. But I don't think it fits the new camaro very well. Not for it's theme.

Moose · 06-04-2008, 11:16 PM

There's been discussions on the "t-tops issue" here previously. (search button respectfully recommended for more info.

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Personally, I think they take away from the car.

stovt001 · 06-04-2008, 11:24 PM

They look good, but thinking of the possible leaks and rattles after the car ages turns me off to them.

SilverTurtle · 06-04-2008, 11:53 PM

new car crash standards FTL... aint gonna happen... move along, folks

shank0668 · 06-10-2008, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by GhoSSt

There is always a problem with leaks. Maybe they want this one to score high on JD Powers "initial quality." A T-top would endanger that IMO.

Funny how some people call it "T-tops" as if there was more than one top on the car.

i dont understand t-tops there are 2 tops

fastball · 06-10-2008, 07:43 PM

Sorry folks, no T's on modern cars - and no, it doesn't fall into the same category as a targa or convertable.

GM wants (and will get) 5 star side impact ratings for the Camaro, and you can't get that with a part of the roof missing and no curtain airbags.

chadrcr · 06-10-2008, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by shank0668

i dont understand t-tops there are 2 tops

Some people do not count each removeable panel.......
just a bottom and the top: one each

To get picky I might call it an H top....
t-top(s) is/are not apparently available.....

How is it we can have a 'safe' strong convertable, but not a t-top(s)?

fastball · 06-10-2008, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by chadrcr

How is it we can have a 'safe' strong convertable, but not a t-top(s)?

Convertables are classified differently now under the NHTSA guidlines than a coupe. Convertables are also engineered differently than their coupe counterparts. Back in the old days, even as recently as the 1985 Cadillac Eldorado, the convertable was just litterally a choped coupe. The 4th gen Fbods were substantially engineered as convertables from the ground up, as will the 5th gen Camaro.

T-Tops would be classified as coupes, hence missing vital roof structure and curtain airbags. They would probably get a 2 or 1 star NHTSA safety rating, which would not be good when you want to sell the Camaro mass market. And no, GM could not make non T-toped Camaros with curtain airbags and a stonger roof design and get a sepparate rating. Doesn't work that way.

BTW, one of the biggest contributing factors to the 4th gens demise was they could not meet 2003 impact protection guidelines - the low angle of the front windshield (and lack of capacity for curtain airbags) would have not only been a failure on every impact rating but actually been illegal to produce period.

chadrcr · 06-10-2008, 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fastball

Convertables are classified differently now under the NHTSA guidlines than a coupe. Convertables are also engineered differently than their coupe counterparts. Back in the old days, even as recently as the 1985 Cadillac Eldorado, the convertable was just litterally a choped coupe. The 4th gen Fbods were substantially engineered as convertables from the ground up, as will the 5th gen Camaro.

T-Tops would be classified as coupes, hence missing vital roof structure and curtain airbags. They would probably get a 2 or 1 star NHTSA safety rating, which would not be good when you want to sell the Camaro mass market. And no, GM could not make non T-toped Camaros with curtain airbags and a stonger roof design and get a sepparate rating. Doesn't work that way.

BTW, one of the biggest contributing factors to the 4th gens demise was they could not meet 2003 impact protection guidelines - the low angle of the front windshield (and lack of capacity for curtain airbags) would have not only been a failure on every impact rating but actually been illegal to produce period.

And to put the t-top on the convertable frame would cost more than a convertable, or at least as much....? that would make sense. :( no Ts

68RS · 06-13-2008, 08:41 PM

Yeah, I agree that it just wouldn't look right on the car for me. Although, if they offered them, I'm sure many would buy them.

Camaro_Girl666 · 06-14-2008, 03:26 AM

i love t-tops and i think it would look nice on the new camaro

BBfan24 · 06-14-2008, 06:05 AM

i really like the t-top on a 3rd gen. i thought the 2nd gen looked funny with it. and i'm sorry, but i'm not a fan of the 4th gen body all together. my thoughts on the 5th gen... i really don't think i'd like it. it just looks funny when i picture it in my head. and i'm big on not dieing in a firey crash. if it doesn't meet safety standards i say don't do it.

TainoWarrior316 · 11-07-2008, 12:36 AM

Wheres the T-Top

LSxJunkie · 11-07-2008, 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by TainoWarrior316

Wheres the T-Top

Never. Gonna. Happen.

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06-04-2008, 11:12 PM	#113
Lessk Repeat after me.... Drives: 1969 Chevy Camaro Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Wichita, KS Posts: 50	I personally think it looks good. But maybe a little too retro for this car? It's an updated version of a classic icon of American history. I'd roll me a '77-'78 T/A with t-tops anyday. But I don't think it fits the new camaro very well. Not for it's theme. __________________ - Jason Death smiles at us all. All a man can do is smile back.

06-04-2008, 11:53 PM	#116
SilverTurtle Reality Check Specialist Drives: '02 Z28, 2012 45th SS Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: ATX Posts: 1,730	new car crash standards FTL... aint gonna happen... move along, folks __________________ got tequila?

06-14-2008, 03:26 AM	#123
Camaro_Girl666 I'm so Camarolicious! Drives: '04 Honda Accord -_- Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Bahrain Posts: 18	i love t-tops and i think it would look nice on the new camaro __________________

06-14-2008, 06:05 AM	#124
BBfan24 Drives: '10 Black 1SS/RS Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Honolulu, HI Posts: 358	i really like the t-top on a 3rd gen. i thought the 2nd gen looked funny with it. and i'm sorry, but i'm not a fan of the 4th gen body all together. my thoughts on the 5th gen... i really don't think i'd like it. it just looks funny when i picture it in my head. and i'm big on not dieing in a firey crash. if it doesn't meet safety standards i say don't do it. __________________ VIN # 11879, 1SS/RS, born 5/22/2009.

06-04-2008, 11:16 PM	#114
Moose Moderator Drives: '99 Camaro SS #1392 Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Newtown, Pa. Posts: 3,982	There's been discussions on the "t-tops issue" here previously. (search button respectfully recommended for more info. ) Personally, I think they take away from the car.

06-04-2008, 11:24 PM	#115
stovt001 Drives: 2006 Cobalt, 2004 Taurus wagon Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: California Posts: 3,810	They look good, but thinking of the possible leaks and rattles after the car ages turns me off to them.

06-10-2008, 07:43 PM	#118
fastball Banned Drives: 2017 Camaro 2SS 6MT Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Cleveland, Ohio Posts: 4,361	Sorry folks, no T's on modern cars - and no, it doesn't fall into the same category as a targa or convertable. GM wants (and will get) 5 star side impact ratings for the Camaro, and you can't get that with a part of the roof missing and no curtain airbags.

06-13-2008, 08:41 PM	#122
68RS Drives: '68 327 RS, 2010 2SS/RS Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Grapevine, Texas Posts: 584	Yeah, I agree that it just wouldn't look right on the car for me. Although, if they offered them, I'm sure many would buy them.

11-07-2008, 12:36 AM	#125
TainoWarrior316 Drives: 2000 Silverado 4.8 V8 Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Wichita, KS Posts: 71	Who wants T-Tops on their SS Camaro's? Wheres the T-Top __________________ Automotive press asked Chevrolet product managers, "What is a Camaro?" and were told it was "a small, vicious animal that eats Mustangs."

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