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Old 08-05-2009, 07:31 AM   #15
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Even if it's a legally registered firearm, you crossed state lines and that is a big no-no (unless your hubby is a LEO)
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Old 08-05-2009, 07:48 AM   #16
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Sounds like you live in the middle of a warzone or something? why the need for a gun right there on your lap at a gas station stop? is it that bad in your neighborhood? I don't think a trip to the gas station merits a loaded gun sitting on your lap really I can't make any sense of it.
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Old 08-05-2009, 08:00 AM   #17
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Sounds like you live in the middle of a warzone or something? why the need for a gun right there on your lap at a gas station stop? is it that bad in your neighborhood? I don't think a trip to the gas station merits a loaded gun sitting on your lap really I can't make any sense of it.
That's sort of what I was thinking. I he's that worried about her why not lock the car and go with him inside.
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Old 08-05-2009, 08:03 AM   #18
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Nonsense! Safeguarding the pistol would not be the same as concealing it. Tanabarley did the right thing and any cop with reasonable thinking would agree. Anyone else would look like a fool in court.

Always keep your gun with you where it's legal to do so. The only useless guns are those left behind when you need them.
Still the wild west there in some aspects. Unless you have a conceal permit, if you carry a firearm it must be visible at all times. Wrapping in a towel so it can't be seen violates that.
BTW, something to think about if you're ever driving in AZ and prefer not to be shot at, never flip anyone off. Lot's of hot pissed off people with guns out there. Would happen from time to time.
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Old 08-05-2009, 08:16 AM   #19
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Sign up and take the concealed carry course and do it legally or do not carry a pistol at all. A dent is in the new Camaro has not put you in fear of your life.

Please tell me you were kidding!!
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Old 08-05-2009, 08:20 AM   #20
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I'm glad I don't live in arkansas. it's scary to know someone nervous sitting next to you at a gas station has a loaded gun in their lap like they are in the middle of iraq. is it really that bad out there?
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Old 08-05-2009, 08:21 AM   #21
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Even if it's a legally registered firearm, you crossed state lines and that is a big no-no (unless your hubby is a LEO)
Another falsehood. Many states have concurrant gun permit laws. That is to say that they honor each other's gun permit laws. Arizona, Texas and Oklahoma are all good to go with each other's permits.

People... these are basic laws and if you own and carry, you should learn what is and is not legal. There are waaaaay too many uninformed people these days and it makes for easy pickens for those that would hinder our RIGHTS as Americans.
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Old 08-05-2009, 08:27 AM   #22
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I'm glad I don't live in arkansas. it's scary to know someone nervous sitting next to you at a gas station has a loaded gun in their lap like they are in the middle of iraq. is it really that bad out there?


I agree!!! Its a freakin car people. For you to grab the gun when it happened makes me believe you are a little crazy. What happens if one of your kids accidently swipes the side of your car with their bike. You gonna shoot them?
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Wrapping in a towel so it can't be seen violates that.
You're slightly mistaken. Having lived and worked as a law enforcement officer in AZ, I can tell you that leaving a pistol uncontrolled, out of reach and in plain view on the seat of a car is a lot worse than placing in on the floor with a towel over it. The spirit of the concealment law in AZ is to enforce restrictions against those intent on commiting crimes. Safgeguarding her pistol and talking to the person who damaged her car was the right thing to do in this scenario.
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Old 08-05-2009, 08:43 AM   #24
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Another falsehood. Many states have concurrant gun permit laws. That is to say that they honor each other's gun permit laws. Arizona, Texas and Oklahoma are all good to go with each other's permits.

People... these are basic laws and if you own and carry, you should learn what is and is not legal. There are waaaaay too many uninformed people these days and it makes for easy pickens for those that would hinder our RIGHTS as Americans.

That's some bad info there.... Not all States recognize permits of other States.... And your rights are only guaranteed on a federal level, States have the right to invoke their own laws. That's why some States have much stricter laws than others....And have the right to ban things on a State and local level.
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Old 08-05-2009, 08:46 AM   #25
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this was a reaction to my car getting hurt. I would hate to see what I would do if my kids got hurt.
I'm guessing you'd just say "Walk it off you big baby" to your kid
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Old 08-05-2009, 09:04 AM   #26
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That's some bad info there.... Not all States recognize permits of other States.... And your rights are only guaranteed on a federal level, States have the right to invoke their own laws. That's why some States have much stricter laws than others....And have the right to ban things on a State and local level.
Which is why it's a great thing that Congress rejected that proposed law which would have forced every state to recognize every other states concealed weapons laws. What's scary is how close it actually came to passing!
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I'm glad I don't live in arkansas. it's scary to know someone nervous sitting next to you at a gas station has a loaded gun in their lap like they are in the middle of iraq. is it really that bad out there?
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Old 08-05-2009, 09:09 AM   #28
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I would suggest in the future that the firearm is kept in a holster with a retention snap and placed beside you in between the seat and arm rest. This way it is a three step process and you will be less likely to act on impulse.
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