Shno's House of Z

[ShnOmac]

Originally Posted by Number 3

Doubt they would. No need to join that HP war. Simply own the market with the greatest coupe ever. Market for that much HP is pretty small.

Besides that is a cast iron block and I think the mass hit would be incredible for the whole drivetrain required to go behind it. This would easily add 3 or 400 pounds to whatever the car ends up being as an SS/1LE.

Besides they had that in their hip pocket the whole time for the COPO cars didn't they?

True.... But they have shown the willingness to please the niche crowd. I just think it would be funny if they announced it to top the other big 2.

[mlee]

Originally Posted by 2cnd chance

It is quite funny that the promo comes out for the LXS454R at 770 HP this week...coincidence...hmmmmmm

They've been pimping that thing for a while. It's part of the Chevy display at NHRA and was at COTA in Austin last year.

Here's another old article from 2010
http://wot.motortrend.com/gm-introdu...gine-9949.html

[2cnd chance]

Oh. I guess after the HellCat they got serious as I've never seen it.

[2cnd chance]

2015 Ford Mustang 3.7-liter V-6

300 horsepower and 280 lb-ft of torque, choice of six-speed manual or six-speed automatic transmission.
Changes: Drops 5 HP, may be due to emissions

2015 Ford Mustang 2.3-liter EcoBoost I-4

310 horsepower and 320 lb-ft of torque, choice of six-speed manual or six-speed automatic transmission.

2015 Ford Mustang 5.0-liter V-8

435 horsepower and 400 lb-ft of torque, choice of six-speed manual or six-speed automatic transmission.
Changes: Larger intake and exhaust valves, updated camshafts and pistons, forged crankshaft and rods

Follow the jump for the press release and all the goodies.


Press Release

HORSEPOWER UNLEASHED – MOTIVATING THE ALL-NEW FORD MUSTANG WITH IMPROVED POWER-TO-WEIGHT RATIOS

5.0-liter V8 headlines all-new Ford Mustang lineup with 435 horsepower and 400 lb.-ft. of torque and improved power-to-weight ratio
New 2.3-liter EcoBoost® brings turbocharging and direct injection to Mustang with 310 horsepower and 320 lb.-ft. of torque – best-ever power density from a Ford engine
Manual transmission provides smoother shifting than previous Mustangs; automatic transmission features steering wheel-mounted paddle shifters and downshift rev-matching
The all-new 2015 Ford Mustang offers three great engines including a standard 300-horsepower V6, a brand-new 310-horsepower EcoBoost® or an upgraded 435-horsepower V8. Each powerplant is available with either a manual or automatic transmission that makes the pony car a great all-around performer – no matter how the equipment is mixed and matched to suit any individual driving style.

The fewer the pounds a car carries for every unit of horsepower generated by the engine, the quicker and nimbler it feels, making power-to-weight ratio a key measure of performance. A recent study by Autoblog of cars currently available in the U.S. market puts Mustang at the top of the charts in power-to-weight ratio for all three price categories a customer can specify.

Mustang extends its lead further for 2015 with the EcoBoost-powered fastback now carrying fewer than 11.4 pounds per horsepower; Mustang GT has as few as 8.52 pounds per horsepower.

Less is more, EcoBoost comes to Mustang
The addition of a new 2.3-liter EcoBoost engine brings turbocharging to the Mustang powertrain lineup. This engine was designed specifically for Mustang, to meet the needs of drivers looking for outstanding performance and fuel efficiency.

The geometry of the EcoBoost intake manifold and turbocharger housing has been optimized to provide better breathing and higher output in Mustang. Producing 310 horsepower and 320 lb.-ft. of torque, the 2.3-liter EcoBoost engine fits the bill for a true Mustang powerplant – with the highest power density yet from a Ford engine.

“This EcoBoost engine delivers the healthy output Mustang drivers expect, regardless of the car’s speed,” said Scott Makowski, EcoBoost powertrain engineering manager. “It delivers where a Mustang driver expects it to – with a broad, flat torque curve and great driveability under any conditions.”

The newest member of Ford’s global EcoBoost engine family, the 2.3-liter continues to take advantage of state-of-the-art technologies including direct fuel injection, twin independent variable camshaft timing and turbocharging to produce big-engine power and torque with improved fuel efficiency.

The 2.3-liter EcoBoost is the first Ford engine to use a low-inertia twin-scroll turbocharger that provides quicker boost response while enabling lower emissions and improved efficiency. The cylinder head features an integrated exhaust manifold that separates the inner and outer pairs of cylinders into each of the two inlet passages to the turbo.

Keeping the exhaust pulses separated from the next cylinder in the firing order virtually eliminates mixing losses and maximizes the pulse energy to the turbine wheel. The result is similar performance to a more complex twin-turbocharger configuration, meaning quicker turbine spin-up and torque delivery when the driver needs it for passing maneuvers.

The separated exhaust ports also enable the exhaust valves to stay open longer for reduced pumping losses that improve specific fuel consumption compared to a single-scroll turbocharger configuration.

With a compact mill generating nearly 135 horsepower per liter and more than 139 lb.-ft. of torque per liter – powering a performance car whose drivers are more inclined to use it – ensuring engine durability was critical. Enhancements to the Mustang EcoBoost engine to withstand the added stresses include:

Forged-steel crankshaft
Piston-cooling jets
Steel piston ring carriers
Premium bearing materials
Upgraded valve seat materials
Forged-steel connecting rods
High-pressure die-cast aluminum cylinder block with ladder-frame bearing caps
Deep-sump, die-cast aluminum oil pan
The beating heart of a pony (Camaro beating heart of a Stallion)

No Ford Mustang engine lineup would be complete without a great V8 engine at its core. The 5.0-liter V8 powers into a new generation with a host of upgrades that help it breathe better, especially at higher engine speeds. Many of these changes are derived from lessons learned in developing the special-edition 2012 Mustang Boss 302.

Getting air into the cylinders and exhaust out is key to generating more power and torque from any engine. That has been the focus in the development of this V8, which features:

Larger intake valves
Larger exhaust valves
Revised intake camshafts
Revised exhaust camshafts
Stiffer valve springs ensure valves close completely at high rpm
New cylinder head casting – revised ports provide straighter path to the valves for less restrictive intake and exhaust flow; combustion chamber modifications accommodate larger valves
Sinter forged connecting rods are lighter and more durable for high-rpm operation
Redesigned piston tops – deeper cutouts clear the new larger valves
Rebalanced forged crankshaft to support higher-rpm operation
These upgrades have boosted output of the V8 to 435 horsepower and 400 lb.-ft. of torque.

A new intake manifold includes charge motion control valves to partially close off port flow at lower engine speeds. This increases the air charge tumble and swirl for improved air-fuel mixing, resulting in better fuel economy, improved idle stability and lower emissions.

The variable camshaft timing on the intake side now has a greater range of adjustment available thanks to mid-lock phasers. This enables better optimized control of the valve timing over a broader range of engine speeds and loads for improved fuel economy and emissions.

Shifting gears
More than most drivers, Mustang owners like to take control and shift for themselves. Whether they select a fully manual gearbox or the updated automatic transmission, the experience will be better than in any previous pony.

The manual has a new shift linkage design for easier engagement and improved precision. The shift lever is now positioned closer to the driver and away from the cupholders, creating a clear path for shifting.

Mustang blends outstanding all-around performance and everyday usability. Drivers who prefer to let the car handle the shifting during their daily work run, but who still want to take control when the roads get twisty, will appreciate the new steering wheel-mounted shift paddles with rev-matching downshifts – now standard with the SelectShift® six-speed automatic transmission.

The automatic also features a redesigned case with cast-in ribs that help make it stiffer and reduce weight. Internally, clutches are optimized and operating temperature increased to reduce friction. The output shaft is now supported by a ball bearing that enables a top speed of 155 mph for Mustang GT.

With a choice of powertrains to suit driving preferences and lifestyles, the new Mustang has cutting-edge technology under the hood to match its modern design. Yet regardless of engine choice, the car remains quintessentially Mustang.

[Number 3]

Are we having fun yet?

[JusticePete]

Just found this.

2016 6th Gen Preliminary Brochure Details

Retro Design
Base Price under $18,000
450 pounds lighter
AC / PB / PS Optional
Radio Optional
PW Optional
ABS Optional
Air Bags Optional
No IRS

Originally Posted by Number 3

Are we having fun yet?

[PYROLYSIS]

Originally Posted by JusticePete

Just found this.

2016 6th Gen Preliminary Brochure Details

Retro Design
Base Price under $18,000
450 pounds lighter
AC / PB / PS Optional
Radio Optional
PW Optional
ABS Optional
Air Bags Optional
No IRS

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All realistic expectations. Kind of makes the new Mustang look more impressive now. I'm not gonna lie. That 5HP drop on the V6 stang has me worried. This could be the start of another great performance depression......for Ford.

[Number 3]

Originally Posted by PYROLYSIS

All realistic expectations. Kind of makes the new Mustang look more impressive now. I'm not gonna lie. That 5HP drop on the V6 stang has me worried. This could be the start of another great performance depression......for Ford.

I'm guessing they wanted the Turbo 4 to look even better. I'm sure there is a hefty price they want to charge for "eco-boost" technology errrrr I mean a DI Turbo 4 cylinder They probably don't want the 4 cylinder to just be a FE play, but a FE ANNNNND performance play to justify what they'll likely be charging for it.

[PYROLYSIS]

Originally Posted by Number 3

I'm guessing they wanted the Turbo 4 to look even better. I'm sure there is a hefty price they want to charge for "eco-boost" technology errrrr I mean a DI Turbo 4 cylinder They probably don't want the 4 cylinder to just be a FE play, but a FE ANNNNND performance play to justify what they'll likely be charging for it.

Yeah. It sounds like they feel a turbo 4 will eventually be accepted but they have to ease it in alongside the V6. The EPA numbers and magazine tests will show which is better as far as numbers go. GM can take a different approach because their V6s are just plain superior. I would like to see the base Camaro 4turbo, if that's what they use, be more focused on fuel economy. If they knock the styling and pricing out of the park people would buy it with hamsters under the hood.

[Number 3]

Thoughts?

[ShnOmac]

Originally Posted by Number 3

Thoughts?

Not sure if I like 2 different sites to wade through.... I can barely keep up with this site.


Now about the photo..... I hope they don't make it too small.

[PYROLYSIS]

I think the wheels are growing on me but it really is impossible to see through that mess to decipher anything else. Wheelbase compared to the Impala and the possibility of improved visibility are the only obvious observations. It's a long wait till January.

[Bhobbs]

It's funny to read some of those replies. You can't tell much of anything from these spy shots. I'm more excited by the fact that now we have proof it's coming and have some kind of timeframe. I look forward to more spy shots with less camo. Maybe some video of the exhaust note.

[2cnd chance]

Number 3 I see it exactly as you do. This will be interesting.