What is the truth?

[rontammy0]

Originally Posted by motorhead

Just wondering if we found the truth yet.

The truth is...ive beat a 5.0 a few times...more truth ..ive lost a few times as well. BS.....mustang wins automatically. Now all is good in the world.

[HeaterMan]

Originally Posted by rontammy0

The truth is...ive beat a 5.0 a few times...more truth ..ive lost a few times as well. BS.....mustang wins automatically. Now all is good in the world.

just curious how your races went against Mustangs bone stock VS bone stock?

[rontammy0]

Originally Posted by HeaterMan

just curious how your races went against Mustangs went bone stock VS bone stock?

Both cars were not bone stock..similar mods ..exhaust and cai. He was quicker with me winning the odd run.

[Cody6.2]

Why do these threads seem to stay on track for a little while then veer off like always? Neither car will get any faster much less slower based on opinions, car vs car the 5.0 is faster. Driver skill is completely subjective and has nothing to so with the original question.

[L99BEN]

Originally Posted by OneSlowV

A Ford master tech on modded mustangs ran his cammed bama tune for over 30k miles zero problems.

Bama has been turning the knock sensors off lately for some reason. Ive seen the datalogs. No bueno!!

[Grabber]

Originally Posted by Cody6.2

Why do these threads seem to stay on track for a little while then veer off like always? Neither car will get any faster much less slower based on opinions, car vs car the 5.0 is faster. Driver skill is completely subjective and has nothing to so with the original question.

:deadhorse:

Realistically, I would compare the max potential in stock form with great drivers behind the wheel. A Stock SS has achieved a best time of 12.6 Complete Stock, where as the 5.0 has gone 12.2 Completely stock. Both times for both cars are extremes, and nowhere near the norm. But, that is good enough for me as a realist to see what each car is capable of. Once you start modding, the gloves come off and then it is a game of who's got the most money. Just because someone raced a friends car and one a few, lost a few, it doesn't mean your car or his car is faster. Just means you beat that guy right then and there, and chances are, have not replicated that same outcome on multiple cars.

Every car runs different, every driver is different. I would NEVER claim victory over a car if I knew I beat the driver. Example: I ran a Intake/Tune/Exhaust C6Z in my Pullied Cobra with Bolt-ons and a ton of suspension work. We were dead even. Did I beat the car? Yes, but, I beat the car with a poor driver. Had that guy known what he was doing behind the wheel, I would have been beaten no matter how good of a driver I was. Especially when I knew the car and driver somewhat well, and he was pulling high 10's @ 128-130 at the same I was pulling worse times. There is a solid 8-10 MPH difference and nearly a full second difference between cars.

[Beef Cake]

How many of y'all went straight from dealership to an exhaust shop? My car was stock for the test drive and that's about it. I bought this car too mod the ls3 platform. I do wish it wasn't such a pig but it's nbd. She moves juuuuust fine.

[Mint]

Originally Posted by OneSlowV

A RT can give a L99 a good run. A 5.0 vs ls3 is close drivers race when both are stock. But when you start throwing on mods the 5.0 walks away from the ls3 pretty good. http://www.svtperformance.com/forums...GT-track-times

A R/T Challenger can do about what the V6 Camaro can do. There is no way a R/T can give a L99 a good run.

[07-SRT]

Originally Posted by Mint

A R/T Challenger can do about what the V6 Camaro can do. There is no way a R/T can give a L99 a good run.

I have friends that have both....stock auto vs auto is a drivers race between L99 and R/T...

[CGMMonster]

Originally Posted by 07-SRT

I have friends that have both....stock auto vs auto is a drivers race between L99 and R/T...

refuse to believe this. Talking about a car with more hp and less weight

[Need4speed_motorsports]

Hey you gotta respect the modern day mustang.

[mariojmoe]

Cody 6.2 hit it dead on in my humble opinion. I had my ass handed to me by a pontiac solstice lol bc i missed 3rd gear (driver mod his way). Obviously he could rightfully claim victory over a ls3 ss bc in reality he did win, Truth is though we all know which car is faster.

Yes there has been and will be ss camaros and r/t's stock beating stock 5.0's but this is simply bc of drivers. Also as cody 6.2 stated which is my ultimate belief, once the mod begins on either car it is anybodys race with the deeper pockets. My car is now putting down 478 to the rear with 422 lbs torque and I am a decent driver (not a super hero by any means) but I can probably take most coyotes (n/a) from a 30+ roll. I say this bc I am NOT stock which changes the game.

I also agree with it coming down to the driver in charer rt vs l99 (stock). Yes this thread did go to Hell in a hand basket bc too many fanboys taking a biased opinion.

[christianchevell]

wow finally looked at this post and wow this place is troll central now. Lots of bashers, great if you could buy a used mustang and make 580 h.p. good for you, when I priced new Camaro versus 5.o it was a lot more to get all the bells and whistles for a 5.0 and a SRT8 was in the 60k region as just was the zl1 a better deal with all the goodies I could ever want versus the gt500 being about 10k more. I considered all the reasons and all the brands and went ss Camaro. I am saying I will have 50k in my car with custom wheels and all the goodies when I get the rear end done next year with a eaton posi and the 3.91 gears to go with my trailing and toes and poly bushings and trw diff cover. etc etc a car is a complete package and a Camaro being a pushrod engine is cheaper and easier to build and some people namely those owning other brands do not like to face the music. What I said obviously made a buncha mustang fan boys butthurt as they do not like the truth. Sure I await what comes in the future, and I do not think my car is a end all of cars as in the best, but I surely know when I chose my car it was and is still the best deal and you cannot change that ever. I try to inspire my fellow Camaro enthusiasts to love their cars and you hate that...oh well. And to my fellow car enthusiasts yes I should be at 500 rwhp with the addition of my Fluidampr 25%UDP and my VMAX as I just added it from my dyno of 491/448 back when I paid to have the best tuner installer in my area do my car. I took special care to pick out the best cam and researched all my parts and spent on what was needed and best and what was not worth the money.
I went from a 426 flywheel to what should be 550-560 with just a CAI, cam, and SP headers with cats. SO yes basically cam and spring kit, and headers and gaskets fluids etc and I was at 491 rwhp naturally aspirated. With parts adding up to about...$500, $800, $712, $200 ,( I did a break in with driven racing oils br30 and run ls30) and the cost of install and dyno tune it came to about 4 grand and I am pleased as punch. I run the top dog the .639/.623 cam from TSP with .675 springs and 112 LSA and like 235/239 duration and it does perform better than the night fury in numbers in my opinion and is a proprietary grind on a comp cam developed by TSP. Sure I have dual mode, and electric power steering and limited the torque management in my tune along with making sure it does not run lean. I went to a good electrical engineer mechanic h.p. tuner and my car is awesome. I imagine many have done things to other car to make them better but hey, money is important but so are results per dollar. And building something to be proud of and doing what you can yourself but being wise enough to use the professionals when you need them if your too busy or do not have the space or tools on hand.
What I say is if you love it then your a winner when it comes to a Camaro, if you not into researching and doing it right ...well maybe you better off with some other car if your just interested in going in a straight line the fastest...... There are style points...also points for things like auto dimming rear view mirrors, heated seats, rear camera and sensors, mylink not insync, wider tires, no need to buy a trac pack and etc... it does all add up even the little fake intake scoops on the side for the rear brake venting and the etc etc..... That's why all the magazines were saying what a good deal the Camaro is, you cannot change going from a HUD to staring at the dash and think that's great........ Just as I do not go to mustangs sites because I am not a troll nor do I go to challenger sites and bash anything about them as I like both of them yet they just have not been the deal for me as of now. And I do wish I could get a hellcat or if they make it a svt new 750 h.p. stang, and pray it could actually get the power to the ground just as with the challenger..... But hey mine is a daily driver, and just as other Camaro owners here I do have the right to be proud of my having bought and invested in my Camaro. And yes a vehicle is a whole package, all the bells and whistles do matter and that is why Camaros have been selling better than mustangs and challengers.

[OneSlowV]

Originally Posted by Mint

A R/T Challenger can do about what the V6 Camaro can do. There is no way a R/T can give a L99 a good run.

Iv'e seen it happen plenty of times. Stock L99 cars run close to what a RT runs.