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Sven59 · 08-03-2014, 04:30 PM

No just finished watching the Continental, Z/28 won again! They are tied for second behind bmw, no dodges or fords in the top seven but two Z28s.

Sven59 · 08-03-2014, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by 07-SRT

I would expect a little more sophistication from a 55 year old, but we all know you bleed GM ,look through rose colored glasses and are delusional ,stick your dik in the tailpipes and fuk your ZL1 before you go to bed every night...... We get it......enough already.......

Lol, the ZL1 is the first Chevy I have ever owned! That is a pretty sophisticated cat if you ask me, he just has trouble going around corners.

klapper · 08-03-2014, 05:19 PM

Interesting how this thread is more about the upcoming Z06 to Hellcat comparison than the ZL1. I thought this was a Camaro forum. Also interesting how suddenly the Camaro is not about the 1/4 mile. Really? Suddenly 1/4 mile racing is boring for Camaro drivers?

No amount of posts about how the Hellcat is overweight, won't really run an 11.2, or a Chevy won in Nascar today changes the fact it is significantly faster than the Camaro ZL1. Yes we know you're just a pulley change etc. from being competitive and how we should wait till the 2016 Camaro anyway, but here and now, stock for stock, the Hellcat is quicker, probably by at 4/10ths in equal air.

Whos_Drivin · 08-03-2014, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by klapper

Interesting how this thread is more about the upcoming Z06 to Hellcat comparison than the ZL1. I thought this was a Camaro forum. Also interesting how suddenly the Camaro is not about the 1/4 mile. Really? Suddenly 1/4 mile racing is boring for Camaro drivers?

No amount of posts about how the Hellcat is overweight, won't really run an 11.2, or a Chevy won in Nascar today changes the fact it is significantly faster than the Camaro ZL1. Yes we know you're just a pulley change etc. from being competitive and how we should wait till the 2016 Camaro anyway, but here and now, stock for stock, the Hellcat is quicker, probably by at 4/10ths in equal air.

And no amount of trolls will change the fact that the ZL1 has been faster than any dodge in the past three years...

Until I see a hellcat on the street or track, I still won't care. When I do see one, I'll still be quicker because GMs aftermarket is 10 times stronger than dodge.

Now, troll on...

96MrBass · 08-03-2014, 05:31 PM

[QUOTE=klapper;7864440]Interesting how this thread is more about the upcoming Z06 to Hellcat comparison than the ZL1. I thought this was a Camaro forum. Also interesting how suddenly the Camaro is not about the 1/4 mile. Really? Suddenly 1/4 mile racing is boring for Camaro drivers?

No amount of posts about how the Hellcat is overweight, won't really run an 11.2, or a Chevy won in Nascar today changes the fact it is significantly faster than the Camaro ZL1. Yes we know you're just a pulley change etc. from being competitive and how we should wait till the 2016 Camaro anyway, but here and now, stock for stock, the Hellcat is quicker, probably by at 4/10ths in equal air.[/QUOTE

Overweight lol with 707 hp it is the highest hp muscle car out of the three.

Sven59 · 08-03-2014, 05:31 PM

The Mustang made its first public appearance on a racetrack little more than a month after its April 17 introduction, as pace car for the 1964 Indianapolis 500.[12]
The same year, Mustangs achieved the first of many notable competition successes, winning first and second in class in the Tour de France international rally. The car's American competition debut, also in 1964, was in drag racing, where private individuals and dealer-sponsored teams campaigned Mustangs powered by 427 cu. in. V8s.

The Camaro was one of the vehicles in the SCCA-sanctioned Trans-Am Series. Chevrolet worked with Roger Penske to operate their unofficially factory-backed Trans Am team, winning the title in 1968 and 1969 with Mark Donohue. Jim Hall's Chaparral team replaced Penske for the 1970 season. Warren Agor of Rochester, NY, was the series' leading Camaro privateer, his orange #13's o, 1993, 1994, and 1998.
There was also another SCCA Trans-Am Series Camaro that was not popular because of racing but because of its body modifications. This Camaro, number 13, had been built and driven by Henry “Smokey” Yunick. Smokey Yunick was a car builder who worked to reduce the weight of his cars by acid-dipping body parts and installing thinner safety glass.
The Penske/Donohue Camaros also had the front sheet metal dropped, all four fenders widened, windshield laid back, front sub-frame “Z’d” to lower the car, the floor pan moved up and even the drip-rails were moved closer to the body. This Camaro had always kept its stock look and had a 302 engine that was able to produce 482 horsepower.. One part that had come out of his testing was the Edelbrock Cross-Manifold. To this day the Smokey Yunick 1968 Camaro is owned by Vic Edelbrock Jr.

The Challenger was introduced to the SCCA Trans Am Series in 1970. Two factory-backed cars were prepared by Ray Caldwell's Autodynamics and driven by Sam Posey and Tony Adamowicz. The No.77 car was built at Autodynamics from a street Challenger T/A that was taken from a local dealer showroom. The No.76 chassis arrived mid-season from Dan Gurney's All-American Racers, and was completed by Autodynamics.
Dodge's mid-1970s factory-supported "Kit Car" program for short-track late-model stock car racing offered a choice of Challenger but in 1974 Dodge ended the challenger line and they went to the Dodge dart sports and Dodge Aspen bodies over a steel-tube chassis.[59]

klapper · 08-03-2014, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Whos_Drivin

And no amount of trolls will change the fact that the ZL1 has been faster than any dodge in the past three years...

Until I see a hellcat on the street or track, I still won't care. When I do see one, I'll still be quicker because GMs aftermarket is 10 times stronger than dodge.

Now, troll on...

Faster than a Viper? I don't think so on either the track or the strip. Oh sorry I forgot; this is a pony/muscle car forum we're not supposed to compare the Camaro to "sports cars". Of course we're free to compare a yet to be sold Chevrolet sports car to a muscle car so please continue with the Z06 to Hellcat comparisons.

96MrBass · 08-03-2014, 05:44 PM

But what is true is when the ZL1 came out you would have to go right to a viper/damn near super car to be competitive to it.

Whos_Drivin · 08-03-2014, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by klapper

Faster than a Viper? I don't think so on either the track or the strip. Oh sorry I forgot; this is a pony/muscle car forum we're not supposed to compare the Camaro to "sports cars". Of course we're free to compare a yet to be sold Chevrolet sports car to a muscle car so please continue with the Z06 to Hellcat comparisons.

Viper is not dodge, but nice try.

07-SRT · 08-03-2014, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Whos_Drivin

And no amount of trolls will change the fact that the ZL1 has been faster than any dodge in the past three years...

Until I see a hellcat on the street or track, I still won't care. When I do see one, I'll still be quicker because GMs aftermarket is 10 times stronger than dodge.

Now, troll on...

Yeah, I also had six pack abs 3 years ago.....let me go take steroids to beat a natural body building competitor....analogy to your comment....sounds pretty stupid doesn't?.... don't answer its a rhetorical question......

Whos_Drivin · 08-03-2014, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by 07-SRT

Yeah, I also had six pack abs 3 years ago.....let me go take steroids to beat a natural body building competitor....analogy to your comment....sounds pretty stupid doesn't?.... don't answer its a rhetorical question......

Sorry, you misread...for the PAST three years, not three years ago...and still is. Unless you have your hellcat now...no need to reply, I know the answer.

klapper · 08-03-2014, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Whos_Drivin

Viper is not dodge, but nice try.

It is now, but hey if you want to argue semantics the ZL1 is slower than the 2010 DODGE Viper too.

motorhead · 08-03-2014, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Sven59

No just finished watching the Continental, Z/28 won again! They are tied for second behind bmw, no dodges or fords in the top seven but two Z28s.

I just saw on the news the two Z/28s crashed into each other. What happen? I wasn't watching.

Sven59 · 08-03-2014, 06:19 PM

One seemed to lose control and slid into the other. Both cars out but a Z/28 still took the win.

08-03-2014, 04:30 PM	#351
Sven59 HAMMER PILOT Drives: 13 ZL1#182, 85 CJ7, 16 Silverado Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Tucson AZ Posts: 4,387	No just finished watching the Continental, Z/28 won again! They are tied for second behind bmw, no dodges or fords in the top seven but two Z28s. __________________ "DO YOU WANT ME TO PUT THE HAMMER DOWN?"

08-03-2014, 05:31 PM	#355
96MrBass Drives: GM Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Marydel, DE Posts: 1,321	[QUOTE=klapper;7864440]Interesting how this thread is more about the upcoming Z06 to Hellcat comparison than the ZL1. I thought this was a Camaro forum. Also interesting how suddenly the Camaro is not about the 1/4 mile. Really? Suddenly 1/4 mile racing is boring for Camaro drivers? No amount of posts about how the Hellcat is overweight, won't really run an 11.2, or a Chevy won in Nascar today changes the fact it is significantly faster than the Camaro ZL1. Yes we know you're just a pulley change etc. from being competitive and how we should wait till the 2016 Camaro anyway, but here and now, stock for stock, the Hellcat is quicker, probably by at 4/10ths in equal air.[/QUOTE Overweight lol with 707 hp it is the highest hp muscle car out of the three. __________________ Roto- Fab Cai, SLP 1 3/4" headers, 3"X pipe, LM2 cat back, Comp Cam & AI Heads, SLP UP, RPM Tuned, GPI Intake, Vmax TB, ADM Air Scoop, 3.91 Gears, Gforce driveshaft, Braille 21#, Elite Catch Can, Pfadt Tie Rods, Diff Bushings and Trailing arms, Eibach spings & sways, BMR cradle bushings, Nt555r's.

08-03-2014, 05:31 PM	#356
Sven59 HAMMER PILOT Drives: 13 ZL1#182, 85 CJ7, 16 Silverado Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Tucson AZ Posts: 4,387	The Mustang made its first public appearance on a racetrack little more than a month after its April 17 introduction, as pace car for the 1964 Indianapolis 500.[12] The same year, Mustangs achieved the first of many notable competition successes, winning first and second in class in the Tour de France international rally. The car's American competition debut, also in 1964, was in drag racing, where private individuals and dealer-sponsored teams campaigned Mustangs powered by 427 cu. in. V8s. The Camaro was one of the vehicles in the SCCA-sanctioned Trans-Am Series. Chevrolet worked with Roger Penske to operate their unofficially factory-backed Trans Am team, winning the title in 1968 and 1969 with Mark Donohue. Jim Hall's Chaparral team replaced Penske for the 1970 season. Warren Agor of Rochester, NY, was the series' leading Camaro privateer, his orange #13's o, 1993, 1994, and 1998. There was also another SCCA Trans-Am Series Camaro that was not popular because of racing but because of its body modifications. This Camaro, number 13, had been built and driven by Henry “Smokey” Yunick. Smokey Yunick was a car builder who worked to reduce the weight of his cars by acid-dipping body parts and installing thinner safety glass. The Penske/Donohue Camaros also had the front sheet metal dropped, all four fenders widened, windshield laid back, front sub-frame “Z’d” to lower the car, the floor pan moved up and even the drip-rails were moved closer to the body. This Camaro had always kept its stock look and had a 302 engine that was able to produce 482 horsepower.. One part that had come out of his testing was the Edelbrock Cross-Manifold. To this day the Smokey Yunick 1968 Camaro is owned by Vic Edelbrock Jr. The Challenger was introduced to the SCCA Trans Am Series in 1970. Two factory-backed cars were prepared by Ray Caldwell's Autodynamics and driven by Sam Posey and Tony Adamowicz. The No.77 car was built at Autodynamics from a street Challenger T/A that was taken from a local dealer showroom. The No.76 chassis arrived mid-season from Dan Gurney's All-American Racers, and was completed by Autodynamics. Dodge's mid-1970s factory-supported "Kit Car" program for short-track late-model stock car racing offered a choice of Challenger but in 1974 Dodge ended the challenger line and they went to the Dodge dart sports and Dodge Aspen bodies over a steel-tube chassis.[59] __________________ "DO YOU WANT ME TO PUT THE HAMMER DOWN?"

08-03-2014, 05:44 PM	#358
96MrBass Drives: GM Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Marydel, DE Posts: 1,321	But what is true is when the ZL1 came out you would have to go right to a viper/damn near super car to be competitive to it. __________________ Roto- Fab Cai, SLP 1 3/4" headers, 3"X pipe, LM2 cat back, Comp Cam & AI Heads, SLP UP, RPM Tuned, GPI Intake, Vmax TB, ADM Air Scoop, 3.91 Gears, Gforce driveshaft, Braille 21#, Elite Catch Can, Pfadt Tie Rods, Diff Bushings and Trailing arms, Eibach spings & sways, BMR cradle bushings, Nt555r's.

08-03-2014, 06:19 PM	#364
Sven59 HAMMER PILOT Drives: 13 ZL1#182, 85 CJ7, 16 Silverado Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Tucson AZ Posts: 4,387	One seemed to lose control and slid into the other. Both cars out but a Z/28 still took the win. __________________ "DO YOU WANT ME TO PUT THE HAMMER DOWN?"

08-03-2014, 05:19 PM	#353
klapper Drives: 2005 Magnum R/T Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Grande Cache, Alberta Posts: 32	Interesting how this thread is more about the upcoming Z06 to Hellcat comparison than the ZL1. I thought this was a Camaro forum. Also interesting how suddenly the Camaro is not about the 1/4 mile. Really? Suddenly 1/4 mile racing is boring for Camaro drivers? No amount of posts about how the Hellcat is overweight, won't really run an 11.2, or a Chevy won in Nascar today changes the fact it is significantly faster than the Camaro ZL1. Yes we know you're just a pulley change etc. from being competitive and how we should wait till the 2016 Camaro anyway, but here and now, stock for stock, the Hellcat is quicker, probably by at 4/10ths in equal air.