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All four twin turbo V6 on this site make more power with wider power bands than the supercharged ones.. Only one drag races, but you didn't include that one above. We are talking stock ZL1 power for the basic TTV6 kits (while still weighing less), not bolt-on SS power. If you really think a bolt-on SS will win convincingly against a stock ZL1, why don't you take your bolt-on SS to the strip and line up against a few? Post the timeslips and videos in the drag racing section so we can all see. See above^^^
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And because I can see the tone of this conversation starting to change I just wanna say that I'd like for this to remain civil and respectful. I have no intention or desire for this to become an argument or debate. I'm just making statements based of what I have seen and from what I know. I always acknowledge that I may be wrong in my thinking and I will gladly accept any information that proves me wrong. Thanks. |
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08-13-2014, 04:58 PM | #33 |
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Ouch, there's some band-aids in the first aid kit in my truck. I think you guys need it for your pride
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As I said in the post you quoted, except for me none of them drag race. Given the power to weight ratio of a stock ZL1 is worse than the cars I list below, it makes perfect sense that you should be able to take a stock ZL1 convincingly. Quote:
HP Turbine (IPS Twin;A6) -- 460 RWHP/440 RWTQ; doesn't drag race Skulka222 (IPS Twin;A6) -- 450 RWHP/4?? RWTQ (just got it last week). Can't_c_me (Custom Twin;M6) -- 500 RWHP/460 RWTQ; doesn't drag race Quote:
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08-13-2014, 05:13 PM | #36 |
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Adding a turbo to the V6 will get you to stock SS power levels, but you still have a car that was built for a V6 (drivetrain, brakes, suspension).
With an SS you get the whole package for around the same money you would spend on the V6.
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Where can I can get an SS with ~450RWHP stock
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08-13-2014, 05:19 PM | #38 | |
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Refresher course ----------------- TTV6 A6 -- 450+ RWHP Stock SS A6 -- ~320 RWHP Stock ZL1 A6 -- ~465 RWHP Which of these things is not like the others?
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08-13-2014, 05:36 PM | #39 | |
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GretchenGotGrowl - 647RWHP & 726RWTQ Oh yeah Gretchen, you're way off man. How can you compete?? You "ONLY" make "TWICE" the power of a stock SS. Apparently these guys know something the rest of us don't.
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Stock V6's usually run low 15's, Stock V8's high 13's if the driver is good (seen a few run low 14's). Modified V8's will run low 13's, once they get cams they can break into the 12's easily. This track is kind of depressing once you think about it, even the NHRA regional guys only run 5.4 @ 264 mph in October, when it is cooler. I've heard people say our track goes uphill a little bit. We also race into the wind, which in Oklahoma can be pretty high winds. A Twin Turbo V6 will be faster than my Centrifugal Supercharger because I don't get the torque bump it will. My torque curve is pretty good past 5000 RPM's though, allowing me some good times on the back half of the track. If I can ever get the tuning issues fixed when my RPM is below 5000 RPM's I will be able to get some real good times. I'm not really going to get into the cost-effectiveness of doing a twin turbo vs buying a V8. I've boosted my V6 to run with V8's and bought a V8 as a daily driver so I could have fun on my way to work. In the end it is up to the person to justify the cost to themselves. I'm glad I boosted my V6 though because it allowed me to gain a lot of knowledge about the process, something I can transfer over to my 5.0 when I start modding it. |
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08-13-2014, 05:57 PM | #41 |
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Everyone is here comparing track times. I'm going to give reality, I'm at 501 rwhp at 12 PSI (my turbos handle 30 PSI) and I have a F@*ked tune. I can beat and have beat tuned CTS V's with video to show that some here have seen. So Lets aim higher I say, someone else will always be faster. If I was to hear of a modded SS or a modded V6 I'd go see the V6. The LS3 and L99 have been customized and raped a million kinds of ways that it's old and everyone is doing it. The V6 is just seeing the light.
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I get the argument you want to validate about V6ers being able to run times identical or barely less than bolt on SS cars and I am sure its possible. Good for those who have. But how much more money has it taken to even get to those times? 7k? 8k? You asked how many bolt on SS have beat ZL1 and CTS-V cars. Ive taken a couple out before but so what? Asking who has beat one, as if they cant be beat, is like going into a "my car is faster than..." and you quote magazine times all day to validate your point. Shout outs to all those with a V6 that have the money and have been able to make their cars something amazing. Give credit to all those deserving regardless of what type of Camaro they drive. Unfortunately there are so few of them out there to really help back the whole "my V6 forced induction can beat..." debate compared to bolt on SS cars. Hopefully more do come around
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