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Old 08-13-2009, 07:31 PM   #15
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You Really have to Use the Product Sparingly

I have used Zaino for years without a problem. I think you are really using too much, although you don't think that you are. There is a You Tube video somewhere in the waxing thread that was produced by Zaino. The video shows exactly how to wax the entire car and the amount of product to be used.

Find it and follow the directions. It really shouldn't be that hard to use. Good luck!
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Old 08-13-2009, 10:06 PM   #16
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I had my first experience with it today as well. I was slightly less then impressed. The car did had it's nice angles, but there were spots that just didn't go over well.
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Old 08-13-2009, 10:41 PM   #17
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If you want your black Camaros to look their best, I. Recommend the following;

1. Apply a coat of ZYMOL to one area at a time in one direction and remove it in the opposite, 90 deg, direction before it dries. Your paint will get visible darker as Zymol replenishes oils to the paint.

2. Apply a coat of Meguiars Gold Class liquid wax to the entire car and remove
after it's dried.

I've had better results with this than I got from 10+ layers of alternated Z5, Z2 and Z-CS.
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Old 08-13-2009, 11:14 PM   #18
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Here is the video on how to use Zaino sparingly:



Even as an experienced user I was surprised on how little to use. It has saved me a lot of time and effort. The results have improved as well!

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Old 08-13-2009, 11:21 PM   #19
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i had some trouble the first time. all i had to do was back the car into the sun and it dried quick. u must use a big towel. but the shine was well worth the time and i have tried almost every product on the market
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Old 08-13-2009, 11:46 PM   #20
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Thanks for the comment guys.

Draco & Nexus - Just to clarify, I did realize that the mixing bottle was 2 ounces. So the first time I filled only half way to get 1 ounce, and then I only used about half of that mixture. Then on the next two coats, I tried using even less. So I really don’t think I’m using too much.

AZ2SSRS - I failed to mention in my original post that in addition to reading the Zaino instructions repeatedly, I also found and watched several times the youtube video that you mentioned. It was a helpful way to show just how thin the material should be applied.

mwt18 - I did in fact use a microfiber towel with Z6 after using the cotton to remove most of the residue. And the microfiber does seem to remove the polish more easily/completely.

rolnslo - Good suggestion about trying a different batch of ZFX. As you mention I was hoping that Zaino would recommend this but they just insisted that I must be doing something wrong. Maybe I’ll try to talk to them again. btw, your car looks great!

NVMY68SS - I might have to try that. You already put 10 layers of Zaino and then switched to Zymol/Meguiars on your Camaro since 6/1? What made you switch?
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Old 08-14-2009, 12:34 AM   #21
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Thanks for the comment guys.

Draco & Nexus - Just to clarify, I did realize that the mixing bottle was 2 ounces. So the first time I filled only half way to get 1 ounce, and then I only used about half of that mixture. Then on the next two coats, I tried using even less. So I really don’t think I’m using too much.

AZ2SSRS - I failed to mention in my original post that in addition to reading the Zaino instructions repeatedly, I also found and watched several times the youtube video that you mentioned. It was a helpful way to show just how thin the material should be applied.

mwt18 - I did in fact use a microfiber towel with Z6 after using the cotton to remove most of the residue. And the microfiber does seem to remove the polish more easily/completely.

rolnslo - Good suggestion about trying a different batch of ZFX. As you mention I was hoping that Zaino would recommend this but they just insisted that I must be doing something wrong. Maybe I’ll try to talk to them again. btw, your car looks great!

NVMY68SS - I might have to try that. You already put 10 layers of Zaino and then switched to Zymol/Meguiars on your Camaro since 6/1? What made you switch?
Just an FYI.The ZFX does not accelerate drying time,it accelerates CURING time.That so when you put the second coat on,your actually putting a 3nd coat and not just moving the first coat around with more product.When i'm applying coats i sometimes have to rub a section with my finger just to tell there is product in that spot.That's how thin it has to be.Regardless,sorry to hear about your bad experience.
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Old 08-14-2009, 02:04 AM   #22
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I agree that Zaino is more trouble than its worth. The results can be replicated with other products that are cheaper and easier to use.
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Old 08-14-2009, 10:54 AM   #23
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Seems obvious if you have to do ll that crap just to put a wax on sombody is pulling someones leg. All waxes protect, some go on and come off easier than others. Don't let the hype (by professinal marketing sales sluts) concvince you otherwise. Until someone can offer up certified labratory testing proving one is better than all others save your money and time.
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Old 08-14-2009, 11:22 AM   #24
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From Long Time Zaino User In Baton Rouge

Hey Turbodog...I am right up the river from you in Baton Rouge. I have been useing Zaino products on my show cars and daily drivers for thirteen years. I love all the Zaino products. What you are experiencing is the polish not drying in our high humidity conditions. This is what I learned after the first few years of useing Zaino. This just applys to their polishes, Z-2, Z-3, Z-5 & Z-AIO. Do not even try useing them from June through September, unless you have a air conditioned garrage. Even with ZFX, does not work. I have left polish on for over a week many times and all it does is smear when you try to remove it. I do all my polishing from October - May. Polish after a cool front moves through and you will not have any problems. When I use Zaino polish with ZFX during cool weather, I can remove it almost as soon as I finish applying it! And it polishes out with ease, with no residue.

FYI: My 2SS/RS, RJT arrived on June 14th. I dawn washed, clayed with Z-6, rubbed down with Z-6, applied 2 coats of Z-CS, with Z-6 buff between coats and finished off with Z-8. Looks great.
When fall (October) arrives I will start to polish with Z-5 & Z-2.

PM me if you would like to discuss more.
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Old 08-14-2009, 11:30 AM   #25
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Try Fukken Wax from Europe, just spray on and wipe off. Easy and good for those that don't like to put in a half day.
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Old 08-14-2009, 11:50 AM   #26
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Try Fukken Wax from Europe, just spray on and wipe off. Easy and good for those that don't like to put in a half day.
Fukken Wax? Do you have a fukken link?
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Old 08-14-2009, 12:00 PM   #27
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Old 08-14-2009, 12:08 PM   #28
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NVMY68SS - I might have to try that. You already put 10 layers of Zaino and then switched to Zymol/Meguiars on your Camaro since 6/1? What made you switch?
My car was extremely dry and rough to the touch when it arrived after sitting outside. I also clay barred the entire car.

I applied the 10 coats because as many have said, it only got better the more you added. Personally, I like to feel a "slick" final finish on my cars. Some had said that it would have to be buffed and polished in order to achieve the same feel that my 68 has. After applying 1 coat of Zymol and Mequiars, they feel almost identical and the 68 has multiple, multiple coats on it.

I liked the idea of the Zaino products, but honestly, for the cost, I can't just go buy it when I need it and the excessive labor required and to not achieve the same effect as a much cheaper application, I'm gonna have to pass in the future.

I've got a buddy with a 2005 Vette and he's having the same issues or worse...........he applied the Z-CS and it NEVER dried in.............and I know he applied it sparingly. He sang it's praises to me and his last shipment didn't work like some in the past.

Maybe Zaino has had some issues in production.

2 keys though............

1. Always use 2 buckets to wash with and

2. Always use good quality microfiber towels. (Remember, if they pull at your skin, they WILL scratch your finish.)
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