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JantzenOKC · 11-12-2014, 09:26 PM

Dummy with a laptop here too...

PalmerGA · 11-12-2014, 09:47 PM

For what it's worth... thanks to all you "dummies with laptops" for what you do. I change my own oil and rotate tires and a few other minor things, but when it comes to electronics and modern car mechanics - I count on you guys. I don't like paying the cost for your expertise (who does?), but I appreciate what you do and accept it as part of the cost of having a modern day vehicle.

wayne watson · 11-12-2014, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by PalmerGA

For what it's worth... thanks to all you "dummies with laptops" for what you do. I change my own oil and rotate tires and a few other minor things, but when it comes to electronics and modern car mechanics - I count on you guys. I don't like paying the cost for your expertise (who does?), but I appreciate what you do and accept it as part of the cost of having a modern day vehicle.

palmer, let me tell you what the laptop is good for.....programming keys and checking codes..the rest is figure it out

Mongo RS · 11-12-2014, 10:55 PM

I'm a dummy with a laptop, but for industrial controls. You won't believe how many customers want their machine programmed to do mutually exclusive things.

While the laptop won't always tell you what is wrong, it's a lot harder to diagnose problems without one.

BigBlock69RS · 11-12-2014, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by MBS

Can any work be done on a car in todays world for less than a $100 bucks besides a oil change?

My oil changes are more than $100, least with synthetic oil on a SS

Angrybird 12 · 11-12-2014, 11:52 PM

I was a instrumentation mechanic that worked for a large chemical company. Many of our instruments were tied into computerized control systems and I can tell you that electronics are very hard to diagnose sometimes. A problem in one system can cause issues in one or more other systems. And sometimes all it takes is someone using the wrong wattage light bulb when an indicator goes out, guess how hard something like that is to find. It's usually a lot more complicated than it seems. As we used to say "Electronics, when they work they are great, when they fail they are a PITA."

mr02Z/28 · 11-13-2014, 12:05 AM

I am so entertained by this thread ......... I love it ........ LMFAO ......

oil change = $100, you getting ripped dude ....... same oil you use in your SS, I use in my 3.6L and I pay about $40 ......., who changes your oil ????

I use Royal Purple usually .....

hypercarfanatic · 11-13-2014, 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by CamarosThree

How's this thread working out for you?

The internet has a cruel, cruel sense of morality. But, I agree with just about every post here

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Originally Posted by PalmerGA

For what it's worth... thanks to all you "dummies with laptops" for what you do. I change my own oil and rotate tires and a few other minor things, but when it comes to electronics and modern car mechanics - I count on you guys. I don't like paying the cost for your expertise (who does?), but I appreciate what you do and accept it as part of the cost of having a modern day vehicle.

Lol - I can't even change my oil. Yes, a big thank you to all you "dummies with laptops"

SIN R G · 11-13-2014, 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Wizard1183

$110 for a dummy with a laptop to diagnose probs? Wow! Mechanics there only make what? $25-30 an hr? So they're charging about $75-85 on top of a the mechanics fee? Ripoff! They're not mechanics. Thats a long lost art.

I brought my 2014 Sierra in because it was misfiring. (Faulty spark plug wire because I brought into another dealership who could see me same day when this occurrence happened before) This moron tells me the camshaft is bad. Need to replace it. Im like WOW! OK! Get me a rental. That afternoon I get a call. Your trucks fixed. It was a faulty spark plug wire. I went there and said I dont want that moron working on my truck anymore if I have to bring it back in. They said well he said that before he connected it to the computer, it wasn't a final diagnoses. I said I dont care. I dont want him working on my vehicles. Brought it in a col more times for software recalls and he's yet to work on it. lol

Ummmm, You took your Sierra in for a misfire and you were told it was a bad camshaft. You say o.k. get me a rental and you leave it there to get the camshaft fixed? Then you get called later and told it was a faulty spark plug wire and call the mechanic a moron. Your the one that went in for a misfire and believed them when they told you it was a bad camshaft. Something is fishy about this story!

Ocmert · 11-13-2014, 12:22 AM

cool story

rebelyell22 · 11-13-2014, 02:29 AM

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Originally Posted by mr02Z/28

I am so entertained by this thread ......... I love it ........ LMFAO ......

oil change = $100, you getting ripped dude ....... same oil you use in your SS, I use in my 3.6L and I pay about $40 ......., who changes your oil ????

I use Royal Purple usually .....

LS3 holds 8.6 quarts

baum · 11-13-2014, 06:44 AM

ahh the good old dealership blame game... blame it on the aftermarket equipment. could a current draw be the radio, yes. but who knows unless you remove the radio. when dealers see aftermarket items this is always their first line of defense. they can charge full price. this is why the magnusson-moss act was created to protect the consumer from things like this. but that only covers for cars in warranty.

OP do you have any other aftermarket electronics in your car? they could be the cause also.

i agree 110 is good actually. its the going rate for dealer work. hell i think even smaller shops near me are about 75-100/hr. so they probably just charged you 1 hour of labor.

NYCamOwner · 11-13-2014, 06:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Ocmert

cool story

"Lame" comment Troll...

PalmerGA · 11-13-2014, 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by wayne watson

palmer, let me tell you what the laptop is good for.....programming keys and checking codes..the rest is figure it out

I hear ya, Wayne. I was just using the term of the day from this post. I know there's a lot to diagnosing and figuring out problems with today's cars.

11-12-2014, 09:47 PM	#30
PalmerGA Drives: 2013 SIM 1SS/RS L99 Join Date: May 2012 Location: Southwest GA Posts: 8,754 View My Garage	For what it's worth... thanks to all you "dummies with laptops" for what you do. I change my own oil and rotate tires and a few other minor things, but when it comes to electronics and modern car mechanics - I count on you guys. I don't like paying the cost for your expertise (who does?), but I appreciate what you do and accept it as part of the cost of having a modern day vehicle. __________________ 2013 1SS/RS Coupe L99, Stainless Power Works LT Headers, SCT X4 Custom Tune from RDP, CAI Inc. Air Intake w/ Apex Scoop, VMAX CNC Ported Throttle Body, Solo Axle-Back Exhaust w/ J-pipes, Apex Catch Can, Husky Splash Guards, Heritage Grille, 3D Carbon Rear Spoiler, Oracle Chrome Turn Signal Bulbs, GM Reverse Light Trim Billets, Gorilla Black Locking Lugs, Emblem Pros Retro SS Badges/Custom Retro SS Kickplates/Under-hood Bowtie, 35% window Tint, Nitto Motivo Tires (6-8-18)

11-12-2014, 11:52 PM	#34
Angrybird 12 7 year Cancer Survivor! Drives: 17 Cruze RS, 07 G6 GT, 99 Astro Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: East Tennessee Posts: 21,546	I was a instrumentation mechanic that worked for a large chemical company. Many of our instruments were tied into computerized control systems and I can tell you that electronics are very hard to diagnose sometimes. A problem in one system can cause issues in one or more other systems. And sometimes all it takes is someone using the wrong wattage light bulb when an indicator goes out, guess how hard something like that is to find. It's usually a lot more complicated than it seems. As we used to say "Electronics, when they work they are great, when they fail they are a PITA." __________________ Cancer's a bitch! Enjoy life while you can! LIVE, LOVE, DRIVE... The Bird is the word!

11-12-2014, 09:26 PM	#29
JantzenOKC Drives: '13 2LT/RS Twin Turbo Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Edmond, Oklahoma Posts: 3,073	Dummy with a laptop here too...

11-12-2014, 10:55 PM	#32
Mongo RS Drives: 2010 2LT M6 RS Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Eastpointe MI Posts: 278	I'm a dummy with a laptop, but for industrial controls. You won't believe how many customers want their machine programmed to do mutually exclusive things. While the laptop won't always tell you what is wrong, it's a lot harder to diagnose problems without one.

11-13-2014, 12:05 AM	#35
mr02Z/28 Drives: 2002 Z/28,1968 Chevelle convert. Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Phila.,PA Posts: 1,137 View My Garage	I am so entertained by this thread ......... I love it ........ LMFAO ...... oil change = $100, you getting ripped dude ....... same oil you use in your SS, I use in my 3.6L and I pay about $40 ......., who changes your oil ???? I use Royal Purple usually .....

11-13-2014, 12:22 AM	#38
Ocmert Account Suspended Drives: 2013 Camaro LS Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Texas Posts: 36	cool story

11-13-2014, 06:44 AM	#40
baum Drives: 2013 1LS, 2013 Ram 1500 Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Minneapolis, mn Posts: 645	ahh the good old dealership blame game... blame it on the aftermarket equipment. could a current draw be the radio, yes. but who knows unless you remove the radio. when dealers see aftermarket items this is always their first line of defense. they can charge full price. this is why the magnusson-moss act was created to protect the consumer from things like this. but that only covers for cars in warranty. OP do you have any other aftermarket electronics in your car? they could be the cause also. i agree 110 is good actually. its the going rate for dealer work. hell i think even smaller shops near me are about 75-100/hr. so they probably just charged you 1 hour of labor.