Automobile All-Star 2015: Camaro Z/28

[Iron Lung Jimmy]

The magazine is called Road & Track. The road part is why the Z/28 did not win.

[ParisTNDude]

Originally Posted by Iron Lung Jimmy

The magazine is called Road & Track. The road part is why the Z/28 did not win.

Yeah...but, at least half of their magazine name is Road & "TRACK". I would have thought the Z/28's clear cut superiority on the "Track" would have prompted some sort of comment. Especially it's 2 second speedier track time over the Mustang GT...that's huge...on the "Track"!

I think many buyers of the Z28 would and have argued that the "Road" manner of the Z28 is quite good. I figure some would believe the Car & Driver Lightning Lap is a better venue for the Z, where it clearly shines.

[doc7000]

They didn't pick the track focused Camaro Z/28 but instead picked the track focused Porsche 911 GT3......

From reading past articles Road and Track just don't seem to like the Camaro and they will try to keep from saying anything good about it period. I mean it is their publication and to each their own, though to pick the new Mustang GT over the Z/28 Camaro just seems a bit odd.....

I mean if they were going to slam the Z/28 for being too much of a track car then why not bring a 2SS 1LE Camaro instead?.....

[brt3]

I think the main thing driving this is that the Z/28 is so, like, mid-2014. Yesterday's news. Old hat...

[Iron Lung Jimmy]

Originally Posted by ParisTNDude

Yeah...but, at least half of their magazine name is Road & "TRACK". I would have thought the Z/28's clear cut superiority on the "Track" would have prompted some sort of comment. Especially it's 2 second speedier track time over the Mustang GT...that's huge...on the "Track"!

I think many buyers of the Z28 would and have argued that the "Road" manner of the Z28 is quite good. I figure some would believe the Car & Driver Lightning Lap is a better venue for the Z, where it clearly shines.

Well, the thing is that the percentage of people who will ever take their performance car to a road course track is so statistically insignificant it is essentially zero. So balls out track capability, while fun to read about, is only one aspect of how good a car is in the real world.

The fastest track car, the Ferrari, didn't win either... probably because very few people are masochistic enough to want to drive it on an daily basis.

[Iron Lung Jimmy]

Originally Posted by doc7000

They didn't pick the track focused Camaro Z/28 but instead picked the track focused Porsche 911 GT3......

From reading past articles Road and Track just don't seem to like the Camaro and they will try to keep from saying anything good about it period. I mean it is their publication and to each their own, though to pick the new Mustang GT over the Z/28 Camaro just seems a bit odd.....

I mean if they were going to slam the Z/28 for being too much of a track car then why not bring a 2SS 1LE Camaro instead?.....

Well... the GT3 did beat the Z/28 by 2.5 seconds. Which is a lot. So if you're going just "track focused" the Z/28 didn't stand a chance anyway.


For whatever reason both Road & Track and Car and Driver always just love every new Mustang that comes out. So it didn't surprise me that they put it ahead of the Z/28.

[ParisTNDude]

I have to say that, the 2015 Mustang beat the 1LE around a track according to Road and Track, so it must be a fairly decent road course car. That was as good a matchup as is possible with pony cars. However, another magazine did that test and reversed the findings in favor of the 1LE. I would also bet that Ford is bench marking the Z28, for it's Shelby GT350.

[RLHMARINES]

Unless R&T had a pro driver with the consistency and professionalism of a Randy Pobst to be able to cantify his unbiased results, then and only then is when I will put faith in what they say with comparisons.