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JCunningham · 12-19-2014, 10:12 PM

I have a whiny Comp Cam that doesnt produce the power it should with my mods 447hp/406ftlbs from a Night Fury with my mods is way to low. Im thinking of getting a different cam and was woundering what I could expect from a Cam Motion stage 3 http://store.cammotion.com/catalog/p...da57449a024668. Im going to ask Mike at New Era if he will do one of his cams done at Cam Motion. Im not going to look for hp I want low end torque. Its a street car. I might take it to Watkins Glen but i want it to be best on the street.

1sick_eg · 12-20-2014, 07:48 AM

With that duration and LSA, you will have good streetability and power. What are your specs on your current cam?

I'm currently running a titan vi cam motion cam 232/238 .621/.603 113LSA if I remember the numbers off the top of my head correctly. Pretty good streetability. Some vacuum loss. Made 484/444 on a load bearing dyno. 400wtq at 2000 rpms.

1sick_eg · 12-20-2014, 08:10 AM

Nevermind. I see you're running a nightfury cam. I'd say there is another issue as far as power is concerned. As far as the noise goes, pull that thing asap to inspect it. I'd hate to see your bearings trashed from it.

Camaro Dude · 12-22-2014, 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by 1sick_eg

With that duration and LSA, you will have good streetability and power. What are your specs on your current cam?

I'm currently running a titan vi cam motion cam 232/238 .621/.603 113LSA if I remember the numbers off the top of my head correctly. Pretty good streetability. Some vacuum loss. Made 484/444 on a load bearing dyno. 400wtq at 2000 rpms.

Those are nice numbers, liking the torque too!

I'm calling Kip tomorrow to inquire about the low lash solid roller option, and cam spec selection for my application.

Jewbeanie · 12-22-2014, 01:42 AM

Yeah I just bought a Nightfury Cam and its made by Cam Motion. My confusion is that yours was made by Comp Cams??

MightymouseSS · 12-22-2014, 02:32 AM

Lethal switched to cam motion grinds. Before they were ground by comp cams.

1sick_eg · 12-22-2014, 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Camaro Dude

Those are nice numbers, liking the torque too!

I'm calling Kip tomorrow to inquire about the low lash solid roller option, and cam spec selection for my application.

Thanks. Yeah, the car feel pretty good. I wish I had put more thought into my valvetrain. I went with quality parts, but wish I had just gone solid roller. A lot of people complain about lash adjustment, but I always enjoyed simple maintenance like that. It's easy. Not to mention Kip said with these low lash setups that after a few heat cycles, you shouldn't have to adjust it hardly ever. I could always hear when my valvetrain needed the smallest amount of adjustment. Let me know what you decide.

DieselMD @ Futral · 12-22-2014, 12:33 PM

Let us know if we can help. All our cams are ground by Cam Motion.

GONIF · 12-22-2014, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by JCunningham

I have a whiny Comp Cam that doesnt produce the power it should with my mods 447hp/406ftlbs from a Night Fury with my mods is way to low. Im thinking of getting a different cam and was woundering what I could expect from a Cam Motion stage 3 http://store.cammotion.com/catalog/p...da57449a024668. Im going to ask Mike at New Era if he will do one of his cams done at Cam Motion. Im not going to look for hp I want low end torque. Its a street car. I might take it to Watkins Glen but i want it to be best on the street.

I would have a shop/tuner that knows what they are doing check your setup and see what your problems are first .Most cars respond very well to the Nightfury cams . .

Camaro Dude · 12-22-2014, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by 1sick_eg

Thanks. Yeah, the car feel pretty good. I wish I had put more thought into my valvetrain. I went with quality parts, but wish I had just gone solid roller. A lot of people complain about lash adjustment, but I always enjoyed simple maintenance like that. It's easy. Not to mention Kip said with these low lash setups that after a few heat cycles, you shouldn't have to adjust it hardly ever. I could always hear when my valvetrain needed the smallest amount of adjustment. Let me know what you decide.

Spoke to Kip today, I think my quest for a cam has finally ended. He spec'd me a cam, and an alternate one as well....I have some food for thought here, decisions decisions!

Regarding low lash rollers, it's almost a no-brainer, unless the budget doesn't allow it. Some parts will have to be replaced, and an extra G note or two may not be in the cards, when the pecking order of things is finally budgeted out.

The good news is, based on Kips post in that solid roller thread elsewhere, that taller valve covers are not needed, thanks to adjustable roller rockers he sourced

.

Sadly I'll be sticking to hydraulic, but I'm getting excited about these two cams he spec'd me, just trying to think......

Josh @ Spartan LSX · 12-23-2014, 12:37 AM

A lot of companies are jumping ship with Comp and going over to Cam Motion. After 3-4 years of consecutive failures it was about time.

Once I left Comp I tried Bullet, Isky, Lunati, etc. Cam Motion always seemed to outperform the others and with much smoother (less abusive) lobes the valvetrain stability is where it should be resulting in a longer lasting valvetrain.

ST1LE · 12-23-2014, 07:47 AM

I went cam motion, and couldn't be happier. Its nice knowing my valve train is safe, better sleep at night!

TXM62SS · 12-23-2014, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by ST1LE

I went cam motion, and couldn't be happier. Its nice knowing my valve train is safe, better sleep at night!

x2

JANNETTYRACING · 12-23-2014, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by JCunningham

I have a whiny Comp Cam that doesnt produce the power it should with my mods 447hp/406ftlbs from a Night Fury with my mods is way to low. Im thinking of getting a different cam and was woundering what I could expect from a Cam Motion stage 3 http://store.cammotion.com/catalog/p...da57449a024668. Im going to ask Mike at New Era if he will do one of his cams done at Cam Motion. Im not going to look for hp I want low end torque. Its a street car. I might take it to Watkins Glen but i want it to be best on the street.

Very similar to my 470 cam which is available on CamMotion core.

Let me know If I can help.

Ted.

12-19-2014, 10:12 PM	#1
JCunningham Drives: 2017 2SS M6 Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: WNY Posts: 7,069	Cam Motion cams I have a whiny Comp Cam that doesnt produce the power it should with my mods 447hp/406ftlbs from a Night Fury with my mods is way to low. Im thinking of getting a different cam and was woundering what I could expect from a Cam Motion stage 3 http://store.cammotion.com/catalog/p...da57449a024668. Im going to ask Mike at New Era if he will do one of his cams done at Cam Motion. Im not going to look for hp I want low end torque. Its a street car. I might take it to Watkins Glen but i want it to be best on the street. __________________ real ZL1 wheels and brakes, 285/305 Michelin Pilot Super Sports, Pray ported Intake manifold, Soler Throttle Body, Rotofab intake, EFI Tuning Flex fuel kit, full American Racing Headers Exhaust, 1 7/8" w/ cats H pipe and mufflers. Full 1LE suspension, with BMR adjustable sway bars and links, GM aluminum cradle bushings, Hurst shifter with lighter reverse spring, TWM shifter knob, Tick level 1 transmission. I should have bought a ZL1

12-20-2014, 07:48 AM	#2
1sick_eg Drives: 14 Camaro 1LE,328i, and some Hondas Join Date: May 2014 Location: Virginia Posts: 799	With that duration and LSA, you will have good streetability and power. What are your specs on your current cam? I'm currently running a titan vi cam motion cam 232/238 .621/.603 113LSA if I remember the numbers off the top of my head correctly. Pretty good streetability. Some vacuum loss. Made 484/444 on a load bearing dyno. 400wtq at 2000 rpms. __________________ 14' Camaro 1LE - Now self-tuned FRH ported heads, Cam Motion LL solid roller, Jesel rockers, Morel lifters, Kooks headers, Corsa exhaust, ADM intake, Stock compression/bore/stroke 551whp 504wtq

12-20-2014, 08:10 AM	#3
1sick_eg Drives: 14 Camaro 1LE,328i, and some Hondas Join Date: May 2014 Location: Virginia Posts: 799	Nevermind. I see you're running a nightfury cam. I'd say there is another issue as far as power is concerned. As far as the noise goes, pull that thing asap to inspect it. I'd hate to see your bearings trashed from it. __________________ 14' Camaro 1LE - Now self-tuned FRH ported heads, Cam Motion LL solid roller, Jesel rockers, Morel lifters, Kooks headers, Corsa exhaust, ADM intake, Stock compression/bore/stroke 551whp 504wtq

12-22-2014, 02:32 AM	#6
MightymouseSS Drives: 2011 LS3 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: el paso tx Posts: 547	Lethal switched to cam motion grinds. Before they were ground by comp cams. __________________ Vararam Stainless Works Headers Vmax TB SLP loudmouth 2 Nightfury Cam Mike Norris CC Tuned by Southwest Speed

12-23-2014, 07:47 AM	#12
ST1LE Drives: E92 BMW M3 Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Houston Posts: 4,496	I went cam motion, and couldn't be happier. Its nice knowing my valve train is safe, better sleep at night! __________________ SOLD - 2013 1LE - Pat G Spec'd Cam, NPP with 1 7/8" Long Tube Headers with High Flow Cats, Intake w/scoop, Ported Throttle Body, and Apex 1.25" Lowering Springs. J-Rod Built and Matt@FSP Tuned

12-22-2014, 01:42 AM	#5
Jewbeanie Drives: 2010 White Camaro 2SS/RS Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Timbucktu Posts: 222	Yeah I just bought a Nightfury Cam and its made by Cam Motion. My confusion is that yours was made by Comp Cams??

12-22-2014, 12:33 PM	#8
DieselMD @ Futral Drives: G8 Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: La Posts: 110	Let us know if we can help. All our cams are ground by Cam Motion.

12-23-2014, 12:37 AM	#11
Josh @ Spartan LSX Drives: A wrench Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: East Atlanta Posts: 353	A lot of companies are jumping ship with Comp and going over to Cam Motion. After 3-4 years of consecutive failures it was about time. Once I left Comp I tried Bullet, Isky, Lunati, etc. Cam Motion always seemed to outperform the others and with much smoother (less abusive) lobes the valvetrain stability is where it should be resulting in a longer lasting valvetrain.