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H-E · 12-31-2014, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by jrpxxii

Everything is in place for it to happen I just need to get the weight down and work on the chassis and suspension to hold it. I really need to find a tuner who is VERY good with the Holley EFI to make it happen. Its just very hard to get everything to work together at this level which most people don't understand that you cant just build a car with lots of power and make it go down the track. Its a very tedious process and LOTS of testing to find that magic sweet spot with all of it working together. Im really looking forward to the new year and making this happen once and for all.

Amen!...my good buddy is attending a tuning class with the holley guys...Ill keep you posted.

Hotwheels426 · 01-02-2015, 11:44 AM

The slp and mods i have on mine make it a blast to drive on the street...but if i was interested in racing the car..(track or street) i would go with a centri or turbo set up..trying to hook this car up under 40 mph on street tires..(295-35-21) is pretty much useless..epecially in cooler temps..

Bo White · 01-02-2015, 01:37 PM

I'm with you there. 295/30/22 here and in the summer isn't bad at all but come sub 60* it's fun lol.

camarossdusk · 01-02-2015, 03:23 PM

even trying to hook on drag radials in this cooler weather with suspension mods is useless, my goal this next year is to go down to 17 or 18 inch wheel/ tire drag radial combo to hook a lot better.

H-E · 01-02-2015, 05:06 PM

I wouldnt be so quick to jump to smaller wheelsOf coarse they would be better but setting the car up properly should be the first step.I can cut low 1.7x sixtys on my 22s at 50lbs of air pressure, with the stock 20s im sure i can go low 1.5xs..Make the right adjustments and the cars hook pretty well on stock tires.

swiftkart · 01-02-2015, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by H-E

Thats kind of like saying a had a v6 now ive had 3 v8s and the v8 kicks ass.....Ive never seen any , any blower run with a maggie with the same CFM, you have to go much bigger to beat a car wirh a maggie at the 5th gens weight .

I 2nd that, plenty of procharged and ECS kits in my town on 5th gens and none of them can keep up with my maggie max2 and cam combo, it doesn't fall off as stated, makes power straight up to 6,800 where the Dyno operator stopped, limiter is set at 7,000.

UF4LIFE102SS · 01-02-2015, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by swiftkart

I 2nd that, plenty of procharged and ECS kits in my town on 5th gens and none of them can keep up with my maggie max2 and cam combo, it doesn't fall off as stated, makes power straight up to 6,800 where the Dyno operator stopped, limiter is set at 7,000.

What hp r u at? and tq?

swiftkart · 01-02-2015, 08:13 PM

I had about 680/620 before when we all meet up and ran several times, they had the same hp as I did, didn't matter, I'm 803/741 now on 13 psi.

94guy · 01-03-2015, 01:57 PM

RBL can you post a graph?

Dirtdog · 01-04-2015, 08:44 PM

Does it make sense to assume if you have a roots style that gives early power, and a cam that makes top end power, that would give you a good pull all the way through?

old motorhead · 01-05-2015, 05:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirtdog

Does it make sense to assume if you have a roots style that gives early power, and a cam that makes top end power, that would give you a good pull all the way through?

Yup. As long as you don't over cam it. Go too big on the cam and you can significantly reduce the bottom end power.

swiftkart · 01-05-2015, 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirtdog

Does it make sense to assume if you have a roots style that gives early power, and a cam that makes top end power, that would give you a good pull all the way through?

This is what I did, I'm not running what everyone say you should with a PD blower, didn't lose that much down low (over 600ft 2,000rpm), but gained a lot up top all the way to redline.

Dirtdog · 01-05-2015, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by old motorhead

Yup. As long as you don't over cam it. Go too big on the cam and you can significantly reduce the bottom end power.

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Originally Posted by swiftkart

This is what I did, I'm not running what everyone say you should with a PD blower, didn't lose that much down low (over 600ft 2,000rpm), but gained a lot up top all the way to redline.

Good to know, thanks guys

01-02-2015, 11:44 AM	#30
Hotwheels426 Drives: 2013 2ss hot wheels camaro vert Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Lady's island sc Posts: 83	The slp and mods i have on mine make it a blast to drive on the street...but if i was interested in racing the car..(track or street) i would go with a centri or turbo set up..trying to hook this car up under 40 mph on street tires..(295-35-21) is pretty much useless..epecially in cooler temps.. __________________ SLP SUPERCHARGER,3.6 PULLEY..HEADERS,HIGH FLOW CATS,BORLA S CATBACK,CAI INTAKE,ZL1 FUEL PUMP,ELITE CATCH CAN,TUNED BY PHIL AT TAMPA TUNING

01-02-2015, 01:37 PM	#31
Bo White Drives: 2015 Summit White 2SS 1LE Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Vance Alabama Posts: 8,021	I'm with you there. 295/30/22 here and in the summer isn't bad at all but come sub 60* it's fun lol. __________________ Retired wanna be cylinder head porter 2015 2SS 1LE Clutch reservoir, Vararam DRX, ported TB, TSP 2" headers, MGW shifter Totalled: 2010 1SS Wilkes Performance/Eagle 416 shortblock, TSP custom valvetrain, PRC 260 heads, Edelbrock Pro Flo 102, th400 swap, 8" PTC 5500 stall= 535/435 at the wheels tuned Gen 3 Performance and Dyno 10.97 @ 124 full weight in 3100 DA CamaroFest X

01-02-2015, 03:23 PM	#32
camarossdusk whippled 5th gen Drives: 2013 camaro ss Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: West Texas Posts: 442 View My Garage	even trying to hook on drag radials in this cooler weather with suspension mods is useless, my goal this next year is to go down to 17 or 18 inch wheel/ tire drag radial combo to hook a lot better. __________________ Whipple running 13 lbs of boost, Innovators west 8 rib with 10 percent over drive crankshaft pulley. Fore level 2 Dual pump fuel system, with duel TI auto fuel pumps, ID 1300 fuel injectors, tuned on e85. Driveshaft shop aluminum driveshaft, 1400 hp half shafts, Detroit tru-trac. ls9 camshaft, CNC ported heads, with trunion and dual valve spring upgrade, LS9 head gaskets, ARP 2000 head studs, Manley stainless valves. Adjustable Bmr toe rods, trailing arms, rear adjustable sway bar, full cradle bushings, upper control arm bushings, BMR diff. bushings, bmr driveshaft safety loop.

01-03-2015, 01:57 PM	#37
94guy Drives: 99 Camaro; 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: louisiana Posts: 1,967	RBL can you post a graph? __________________ 2018 Camaro SS A8 Edelbrock 2650 FBO 93 octane 9.54@144 Pump E 9.59@152 2010 Camaro Stock bottom end with 46,000+miles JRE remote tuning Whipple A6 and Drive it to and from the track 9.46@146 Last edited by 94guy; 01-05-2015 at 05:02 PM.

01-04-2015, 08:44 PM	#38
Dirtdog Pro Hide n Seek Player Drives: 2010 SS LS3/LSA 620whp/630tq Join Date: May 2009 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 921 View My Garage	Does it make sense to assume if you have a roots style that gives early power, and a cam that makes top end power, that would give you a good pull all the way through? __________________ 620whp/630wtq. ADM LSA Conversion, E85, PFADT Tri-Y Headers into Borla S, PFADT Swaybars, Springs, Links, 20x10 20x11 Forgestar F14s, Lots of AAC Last edited by Dirtdog; 01-04-2015 at 09:11 PM.

01-02-2015, 05:06 PM	#33
H-E Account Suspended Drives: 2010 zr1 Camaro 2011 vert Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: everywhere Posts: 1,121	I wouldnt be so quick to jump to smaller wheelsOf coarse they would be better but setting the car up properly should be the first step.I can cut low 1.7x sixtys on my 22s at 50lbs of air pressure, with the stock 20s im sure i can go low 1.5xs..Make the right adjustments and the cars hook pretty well on stock tires.

01-02-2015, 08:13 PM	#36
swiftkart Drives: 2010 SS/RS LS3 M6 Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Kansas Posts: 693	I had about 680/620 before when we all meet up and ran several times, they had the same hp as I did, didn't matter, I'm 803/741 now on 13 psi.