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SwaggyJ · 12-28-2014, 02:35 PM

I own a 2013 Camaro SS. Its bone stock as it's my daily driver. I've lined up against 4 bone stock SRT8 chargers. Lost everytime. How is this? I just don't understand.. A friend has a 2010 Camaro SS bone stock as well and has simply ran with them but never actually beaten them as have I. We haven't been blown out of the water by anymeans but it's just something I don't understand. Both L99 autos. I know with a good tune I could outrun them but to have to do that to beat a stock on their end would just be sad lol.

Are we really that heavy? or are they just faster?

SwaggyJ · 12-28-2014, 02:38 PM

****Let me clarify that I also own an SRT8, I bought it brand new in 2009. I have not lined both of mine up but I just feel as when I drive my Charger that it would be no match to the Camaro yet the results are clearly different

alaskacamaro · 12-28-2014, 03:13 PM

There are so many variables to racing that it is hard to pinpoint an exact cause. An 09 SRT charger is going to have a slight hp edge on your auto. I have never driven an SS auto but from what I have seen, a tune is really needed to make them wake up.

camarosspower · 12-28-2014, 03:22 PM

Fuse pull?

kelley1996 · 12-28-2014, 03:31 PM

I have a L99 with cold air and muffler delete and have run dead even without a tune....so go figure.

Camero5 · 12-28-2014, 03:44 PM

Had and L99 with tune, CAI, headers, cat back, and gears and a 12 SRT8 Charger beat me by about a car length. They are pushing 470HP stock. Add CAI, headers, exhaust, and they are going to kick are asses.

Here is a good comparison of the specs between both

http://www.caranddriver.com/comparis...e-specs-page-4

DarKnightZ · 02-11-2015, 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Camero5

Had and L99 with tune, CAI, headers, cat back, and gears and a 12 SRT8 Charger beat me by about a car length. They are pushing 470HP stock. Add CAI, headers, exhaust, and they are going to kick are asses.

Here is a good comparison of the specs between both

http://www.caranddriver.com/comparis...e-specs-page-4

Whoa, thats cool, imma take a look.

07-SRT · 02-11-2015, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by SwaggyJ

****Let me clarify that I also own an SRT8, I bought it brand new in 2009. I have not lined both of mine up but I just feel as when I drive my Charger that it would be no match to the Camaro yet the results are clearly different

The SRT8 is deceiving. I have owned 2 and they don't feel seat of the pants fast due to weight, size and handling ability compared to the Camaro, However, My 07 SRT ran a 13.0 bone stock the first time I took it took the track. It surprised me because it didn't "feel that fast"

LEADfoot927 · 02-11-2015, 08:02 PM

Was it 6.1 or 6.4? The 6.1=drivers race. The fastest stock time 6.1 is 12.6 quarter mile, SS is 12.5 (LS3) 12.7 (L99), 12.2 for 6.4 Hemi. Some basic bolt on and tires for the SS should even it out.

62nalide · 02-11-2015, 08:07 PM

6.4L hemis SRT8s are beast stock and tuned, what an L99 needs is a good (VVT) tune to wake it up

camarosspower · 02-11-2015, 08:45 PM

I raced a 392 15' challenger not to long ago. Hell yea their fast. Only even run we had I started to pull a car on her. That's right her. Lol

Synyster · 02-12-2015, 12:31 AM

You need a tune to get the autos fast, it's just how it is. Maybe do a set of 3.91's if you're worried about the overall warranty. Not sure if just gears would void everything though, but it'd help.

SpeedIsLife · 02-12-2015, 08:33 AM

If it's a 6.1 Charger..then I do not know.

If it's a 6.4 it's because the 392 is a remarkable engine. It makes stupid amounts of torque down low, and past 3,000 RPM it doesn't drop below 400 ftlbs of torque for the entire RPM range.

A few neighborhoods over from me there is a person (don't know if male or female) that has a Superbee..and I lose every pull I have with them, and I've got mild bolt on's and a tune. I know they've got an exhaust, intake and tune at least..so they're already pushing 500-515 HP and 485-490 TQ at the crank

12-28-2014, 02:35 PM	#1
SwaggyJ Drives: 2013 Camaro SS/2009 Charger SRT8 Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Memphis Posts: 7	How? I own a 2013 Camaro SS. Its bone stock as it's my daily driver. I've lined up against 4 bone stock SRT8 chargers. Lost everytime. How is this? I just don't understand.. A friend has a 2010 Camaro SS bone stock as well and has simply ran with them but never actually beaten them as have I. We haven't been blown out of the water by anymeans but it's just something I don't understand. Both L99 autos. I know with a good tune I could outrun them but to have to do that to beat a stock on their end would just be sad lol. Are we really that heavy? or are they just faster?

12-28-2014, 02:38 PM	#2
SwaggyJ Drives: 2013 Camaro SS/2009 Charger SRT8 Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Memphis Posts: 7	***Let me clarify that I also own an SRT8, I bought it brand new in 2009. I have not lined both of mine up but I just feel as when I drive my Charger that it would be no match to the Camaro yet the results are clearly different Last edited by SwaggyJ; 12-28-2014 at 02:48 PM.*

12-28-2014, 03:44 PM	#6
Camero5 Hide! My wife's coming! Drives: 2013 Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Las Colinas, TX Posts: 1,442 View My Garage	How? Had and L99 with tune, CAI, headers, cat back, and gears and a 12 SRT8 Charger beat me by about a car length. They are pushing 470HP stock. Add CAI, headers, exhaust, and they are going to kick are asses. Here is a good comparison of the specs between both http://www.caranddriver.com/comparis...e-specs-page-4 __________________ 2013 Camaro ZL1 Convertible CRT - 630 RWHP / 620 RWTQ - ADM Performance Built/Tuned - ZL-700 Package - LS9 CAM - Lingenfelter CNC Ported Heads - Stainless Power Headers

02-11-2015, 08:02 PM	#9
LEADfoot927 Drives: 2012 GT500 SVTPP Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Fort Lewis, WA Posts: 448	Was it 6.1 or 6.4? The 6.1=drivers race. The fastest stock time 6.1 is 12.6 quarter mile, SS is 12.5 (LS3) 12.7 (L99), 12.2 for 6.4 Hemi. Some basic bolt on and tires for the SS should even it out. __________________ Past rides: 2002 BMW M3 2010 Camaro V6 2010 Camaro SS L99 2011 Camaro SS Ls3 2011 Dodge Charger R/T 2012 Dodge Charger SRT8 Super Bee/ Reso Delete Current ride: 2012 GT500/ 2.3 TVS, Afco Dual pass heat exchanger, Roush Extreme Exhaust: 606 rwhp/ 611 wtq

02-11-2015, 08:07 PM	#10
62nalide Drives: 2013 SS Join Date: May 2013 Location: DFW Posts: 4,102	6.4L hemis SRT8s are beast stock and tuned, what an L99 needs is a good (VVT) tune to wake it up __________________ https://frankensteined.net/ Martin@Frankensteined.net

12-28-2014, 03:13 PM	#3
alaskacamaro Drives: 2012 2SS 45TH Anniversary Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Kentucky Posts: 720	There are so many variables to racing that it is hard to pinpoint an exact cause. An 09 SRT charger is going to have a slight hp edge on your auto. I have never driven an SS auto but from what I have seen, a tune is really needed to make them wake up.

12-28-2014, 03:22 PM	#4
camarosspower Drives: 2010 camaro ss Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Port Arthur, Tx Posts: 2,383	Fuse pull?

12-28-2014, 03:31 PM	#5
kelley1996 Drives: '10 Camaro 2SS/RS/'17 Scat Pack Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Danielson,Ct Posts: 179	I have a L99 with cold air and muffler delete and have run dead even without a tune....so go figure.

02-11-2015, 08:45 PM	#11
camarosspower Drives: 2010 camaro ss Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Port Arthur, Tx Posts: 2,383	I raced a 392 15' challenger not to long ago. Hell yea their fast. Only even run we had I started to pull a car on her. That's right her. Lol

02-12-2015, 12:31 AM	#12
Synyster Drives: 2006 F150 Lariat Join Date: May 2010 Location: Florida Posts: 1,665	You need a tune to get the autos fast, it's just how it is. Maybe do a set of 3.91's if you're worried about the overall warranty. Not sure if just gears would void everything though, but it'd help.

02-12-2015, 08:33 AM	#13
SpeedIsLife Drives: Current Camaro-less Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Oregon Posts: 3,242	If it's a 6.1 Charger..then I do not know. If it's a 6.4 it's because the 392 is a remarkable engine. It makes stupid amounts of torque down low, and past 3,000 RPM it doesn't drop below 400 ftlbs of torque for the entire RPM range. A few neighborhoods over from me there is a person (don't know if male or female) that has a Superbee..and I lose every pull I have with them, and I've got mild bolt on's and a tune. I know they've got an exhaust, intake and tune at least..so they're already pushing 500-515 HP and 485-490 TQ at the crank