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Firefighter · 03-04-2015, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by SSSoon

The wheel gap is temporary, until the knuckle drops come in. That will take another inch out of the gap. Will be tight.

Did the Z/28 DSS struts drop it at all? I've heard conflicting info that they are the same ride height and others that it's drops a inch.

I thought you had an early set of knuckles on there already. So an inch more should help substantially.

Looks great either way though. Definitely a touch jealous.

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SSSoon · 03-04-2015, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Firefighter

Did the Z/28 DSS struts drop it at all? I've heard conflicting info that they are the same ride height and others that it's drops a inch.

I thought you had an early set of knuckles on there already. So an inch more should help substantially.

Looks great either way though. Definitely a touch jealous.

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Thanks man. Appreciate the comments!

The DSSV struts did not drop the ride from where I was with the Pedders coilovers. In fact, I think they are a bit taller from where I had the Pedders set (which was pretty damn low).

Firefighter · 03-04-2015, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by SSSoon

Thanks man. Appreciate the comments!

The DSSV struts did not drop the ride from where I was with the Pedders coilovers. In fact, I think they are a bit taller from where I had the Pedders set (which was pretty damn low).

How do you think they would sit height wise in comparison to stock SS or 1LE struts?

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SSSoon · 03-04-2015, 08:56 PM

Here's the alignment. Needs JPSS Camber Plates and a little grinding to get it perfectly set, but should be fine for a first day on the track.

SSSoon · 03-04-2015, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Firefighter

How do you think they would sit in comparison to stock SS or 1LE struts?

I would be guessing if I said anything. I just don't know. It's been so long since my car was stock

Firefighter · 03-04-2015, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by SSSoon

I would be guessing if I said anything. I just don't know. It's been so long since my car was stock

Gotcha... thanks all the same.

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cdb95z28 · 03-04-2015, 09:21 PM

Bitchin' hot rod SSSoon!

JusticePete · 03-04-2015, 10:09 PM

Knuckle Drop is the solution to several performance issues with this Camaro. The obvious is the ride height. We'll bring her down an inch. Next is front track. We want to push those wheels out 5mm. We can then open the clevis slots and get to -2.5* of camber with plenty of tire to strut clearance. We'll use the camber plates to significantly increase Steering Angle Inclination (SAI). We'll slot those radius arm holes and increase caster too.

Ride height adjusted to 19" wheels with the coilovers.

LF 641mm RF 641mm
LR 653mm RR 649mm

After with the installation of the Z/28 coils and DSSV struts.

LF 660mm RF 660mm
LR 673mm RR 675mm

A stock SS would be this height with 19s.

Front 675mm
Rear 683mm

Z/28 coils are a bit lower than the SS.

Firefighter · 03-04-2015, 10:54 PM

As usual Pete shows up with a plethora of knowledge. Thanks man.

So basically the Z/28 stuff is 1/3" to just under 1/2" lower than a 1LE?

That takes care of one of my questions about the possibility of knuckles and DSSV struts.

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Raven42nd · 03-04-2015, 11:44 PM

Very Sweet Ride

X25 · 03-05-2015, 02:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Firefighter

As usual Pete shows up with a plethora of knowledge. Thanks man.

So basically the Z/28 stuff is 1/3" to just under 1/2" lower than a 1LE?

That takes care of one of my questions about the possibility of knuckles and DSSV struts.

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I am not sure why it was more, but in my experience (from stock 1LE struts/springs to Z/28 struts/springs), the drop was about 1".

SSSoon · 03-07-2015, 12:04 AM

Great day on the track today.

When I got up for tech inspection the head inspector starts to ask me his question but as he pokes his head inside and looks around he says, "Wow." a bunch of times, and then concludes "You're good" without doing any actual inspecting. Then he asks to see the engine. All the other inspector types come over to ooh and aah. Lol.

First run was 28 degrees, and then it "warmed up" to around 34 degrees I think. So, limited traction. I would be surprised if my tires had half the grip they would have on a decent day. But at least the pavement was miraculously clear of moisture and the sun helped a bit.

My car has so much changed on it that I was overwhelmed with things to work on from a driving improvement perspective. Kept apexing early and soon realized it was because the car turns in so much faster now that I have to reset all my mental turn-in points. We didn't have the shorter wheel size in the tune, and as a result I kept on banging off the GM 155 mph max speed governor. That'll be tuned out this week, along with correct tire size (I wasn't actually going 155, probably 145).

Emptied out the catch can after each run. At first it was almost pure water that came out - clear with a slight gasoline smell - and then after a while it looked like coffee with cream, maybe 2-3 ounces per session. I guess there is a ton of water in that much oil (4.5 gallons) and we'll have to get it all out sooner or later.

Curved rear view mirror does not work well because I am too tall. Can't see around my helmet. So, we are going to install a rear-facing camera in the shark fin and mount a 7" monitor where the OEM rear view mirror used to be.

A bunch of little things still need to be done or tweaked these next few weeks, and then it's off for 3 days with NASA at VIR March 20-22.

Overall the car was a blast to drive, and I realize the biggest limitation now is me. It's far, far more capable than I am. I am looking forward to pushing myself to get a little more out of every corner on every session. Basically I have to start over on everything - braking points, turn in, when its safe to get on the gas again after apex, etc. I kept getting on the gas earlier and earlier and still haven't found the point where the car complains.

forklord · 03-07-2015, 01:38 AM

your car is sex.

pete, wheres the price on the knuckle drop?!?! can't take it anymore

SSSoon · 03-07-2015, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by cdb95z28

Bitchin' hot rod SSSoon!

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Originally Posted by Raven42nd

Very Sweet Ride

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Originally Posted by forklord

your car is sex.

Thanks guys. I know the 6th gen is going to be sweet when it is released, but I sure love the looks of my 5th gen... and the performance...

03-04-2015, 08:56 PM	#410
SSSoon Drives: RY 2011 2SS A6 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Virginia Posts: 997	Here's the alignment. Needs JPSS Camber Plates and a little grinding to get it perfectly set, but should be fine for a first day on the track. Attached Images __________________ Dry sump LS7, cage, JPSS suspension, Wilwood brakes, fire suppression, ARH 3" headers/exhaust, Z/28 DSSV coilovers, Kirkey seats, TeamTech 6-point harnesses, 19" Forgeline GA3R, 325/30R19 Re11 tires, oil cooler, monster JPSS splitter/wickerbill, CAI, brake ducts.

03-04-2015, 09:21 PM	#413
cdb95z28 Drives: 2022 1SS 1LE A10 BCD WCT+PDR Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Johnstown, PA Posts: 3,752	Bitchin' hot rod SSSoon! __________________ 2022 1SS 1LE A10 BCD WCT+PDR2014 1SS 1LE NPP RECARO SIM-SOLD1995 Z28 M6 GSC PGM-SOLD1975 NOVA COUPE 300HP 350 TH350 FLASH RED-SOLD "KEEP THE FAITH"-Fbodfather

03-04-2015, 10:54 PM	#415
Firefighter Drives: Black '13 2SS/RS/1LE w/NPP/NAV Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Tampa by way of Miami... Posts: 4,934	As usual Pete shows up with a plethora of knowledge. Thanks man. So basically the Z/28 stuff is 1/3" to just under 1/2" lower than a 1LE? That takes care of one of my questions about the possibility of knuckles and DSSV struts. Sent from my SM-G900V using Tapatalk __________________ My Build Thread... http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=285054

03-04-2015, 11:44 PM	#416
Raven42nd "Let 'em eat crow" Drives: 2014 Spring Edition V6 Conv Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Murfreesboro, TN Posts: 107 View My Garage	Very Sweet Ride __________________

03-07-2015, 12:04 AM	#418
SSSoon Drives: RY 2011 2SS A6 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Virginia Posts: 997	Great day on the track today. When I got up for tech inspection the head inspector starts to ask me his question but as he pokes his head inside and looks around he says, "Wow." a bunch of times, and then concludes "You're good" without doing any actual inspecting. Then he asks to see the engine. All the other inspector types come over to ooh and aah. Lol. First run was 28 degrees, and then it "warmed up" to around 34 degrees I think. So, limited traction. I would be surprised if my tires had half the grip they would have on a decent day. But at least the pavement was miraculously clear of moisture and the sun helped a bit. My car has so much changed on it that I was overwhelmed with things to work on from a driving improvement perspective. Kept apexing early and soon realized it was because the car turns in so much faster now that I have to reset all my mental turn-in points. We didn't have the shorter wheel size in the tune, and as a result I kept on banging off the GM 155 mph max speed governor. That'll be tuned out this week, along with correct tire size (I wasn't actually going 155, probably 145). Emptied out the catch can after each run. At first it was almost pure water that came out - clear with a slight gasoline smell - and then after a while it looked like coffee with cream, maybe 2-3 ounces per session. I guess there is a ton of water in that much oil (4.5 gallons) and we'll have to get it all out sooner or later. Curved rear view mirror does not work well because I am too tall. Can't see around my helmet. So, we are going to install a rear-facing camera in the shark fin and mount a 7" monitor where the OEM rear view mirror used to be. A bunch of little things still need to be done or tweaked these next few weeks, and then it's off for 3 days with NASA at VIR March 20-22. Overall the car was a blast to drive, and I realize the biggest limitation now is me. It's far, far more capable than I am. I am looking forward to pushing myself to get a little more out of every corner on every session. Basically I have to start over on everything - braking points, turn in, when its safe to get on the gas again after apex, etc. I kept getting on the gas earlier and earlier and still haven't found the point where the car complains. __________________ Dry sump LS7, cage, JPSS suspension, Wilwood brakes, fire suppression, ARH 3" headers/exhaust, Z/28 DSSV coilovers, Kirkey seats, TeamTech 6-point harnesses, 19" Forgeline GA3R, 325/30R19 Re11 tires, oil cooler, monster JPSS splitter/wickerbill, CAI, brake ducts.

03-04-2015, 10:09 PM	#414
JusticePete Drives: Camaro Justice Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 20,171	Knuckle Drop is the solution to several performance issues with this Camaro. The obvious is the ride height. We'll bring her down an inch. Next is front track. We want to push those wheels out 5mm. We can then open the clevis slots and get to -2.5* of camber with plenty of tire to strut clearance. We'll use the camber plates to significantly increase Steering Angle Inclination (SAI). We'll slot those radius arm holes and increase caster too. Ride height adjusted to 19" wheels with the coilovers. LF 641mm RF 641mm LR 653mm RR 649mm After with the installation of the Z/28 coils and DSSV struts. LF 660mm RF 660mm LR 673mm RR 675mm A stock SS would be this height with 19s. Front 675mm Rear 683mm Z/28 coils are a bit lower than the SS.

03-07-2015, 01:38 AM	#419
forklord Drives: 2010 2SS Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Canada Posts: 800	your car is sex. pete, wheres the price on the knuckle drop?!?! can't take it anymore __________________ 2010 2SS- 562whp/634wtq 12 psi on3 turbo 78mm magnum /w aem truboost, pat g cam, Kooks 3" catback, Factory Rep 41s with 285/315 20" michelin PSS, Snow Meth, Hex Hood Vents, ZL1 FP & ADM FPCM /w JMS BAP, ID 850s, DSS lvl 4 axles & aluminum 1 piece D/S, Total Pro BMR bushings, fe4 sways, toe rods & trailing arms, Prothane engine mounts, MGW shifter, eaton true trac, mantic 9000 clutch, idealg master cylinder, JDP clutch oil reservoir, ram clutch pedal adjust, Tick clutch & bleed lines, Dewitts Rad