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Stingray · 03-12-2015, 01:06 PM

From Automotive News

March 12, 2015

Article Quotes:

General Motors plans to cut its powertrain warranty on Chevrolet and GMC vehicles for the 2016 model year, concluding that its standout offer of 100,000-mile coverage -- in place for nearly a decade -- wasn't a strong enough selling point.

The five-year/100,000-mile powertrain coverage -- once touted by former GM CEO Rick Wagoner as a symbol of the improved quality of GM's vehicles -- will be reduced to five years/60,000 miles for '16 models. The brands will continue to offer courtesy transportation and roadside assistance during the coverage period.

GM also will scale back its offer of two years of free maintenance, including oil changes and tire rotations, on most new Chevy, GMC and Buick vehicles. The brands, which began the free-maintenance deal for model year 2014, will reduce the number of free service visits to two, from four, starting with '16 models.

Both changes were announced in a memo sent to dealers on Wednesday.

More here: http://www.autonews.com/article/2015...ews-blast&and=

Expunge · 03-12-2015, 01:07 PM

It's all about controlling costs and maximizing profits. GM has been under pressure for their profits by their shareholders.

I dont like it, but at the same point the proof will be in the sales. Personally I think they should do the Hyundai model or something similar where the 100K powertrain warranty is only good for the original owner of the vehicle. (It might be this way now, not certain)

v6sonoma · 03-12-2015, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Expunge

It's all about controlling costs and maximizing profits. GM has been under pressure for their profits by their shareholders.

I dont like it, but at the same point the proof will be in the sales. Personally I think they should do the Hyundai model or something similar where the 100K powertrain warranty is only good for the original owner of the vehicle. (It might be this way now, not certain)

I don't believe it is. Which I believe helps them as now there will be less incentive for people to buy a used car over time as they will have much shorter warranties.

Dizzy82 · 03-12-2015, 03:18 PM

I wonder if this will change anyones mind when it comes to the 6th gen camaro.

LStick · 03-12-2015, 03:38 PM

60k is when a lot of problems started to creep in on the GMC/Chevy trucks I bought in the past.

Should be interesting.

stoopid · 03-12-2015, 03:51 PM

Could be a money making ploy... from what I've heard, GM is bringing the extended warranty back in-house, and this would be a way of adding value to that plan. They will sell more plans if the warranty ends 40,000 miles sooner.

This might end up pushing me into a different direction with my next vehicle.

shibbs · 03-12-2015, 04:02 PM

I read this as Chevrolet is seeing how shitty the Displacement On Demand is, along with their oil life monitoring system.

Yes, let's shut off these 4 cylinders for extended periods of time, and then go 20k on a non-synthetic oil. What could POSSIBLY go wrong in 100,000 miles?!?!??!

VADER SS L99 · 03-12-2015, 06:12 PM

I think part of it might be direct injection and the problems associated with it near 100k. Almost all engines will be DI in the future.

roorback · 03-12-2015, 08:51 PM

Garbage. pure and simple. Complete garbage.

shrinkdoc · 03-12-2015, 08:53 PM

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/gm-cut...--finance.html

Could it be the real reasons are too many engine failures? Seems to me that if they had confidence in their power trains and wanted to maintain their customer base they would stick with the 100k warranty. When the 2016 Camaro comes out I will then give the Mustang a good look too. That extra 100k warranty would be enough to stay with Chevy but seems like they just don;t get it.

MLAZ1990 · 03-12-2015, 08:54 PM

This will likely be the last Chevy I ever buy.....

Angrybird 12 · 03-12-2015, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by MLAZ1990

This will likely be the last Chevy I ever buy.....

So what will you buy if the warranty is the only reason you are not buying another Chevy?

Brutal SS · 03-12-2015, 09:00 PM

I thought that was pretty much an industry standard. This decision will hurt sales I feel.

SSeric · 03-12-2015, 09:01 PM

Disappointing. Something to consider when I make my next purchase.

03-12-2015, 01:06 PM	#29
Stingray just can't get enough Drives: a bunch of fast toys... Join Date: May 2012 Location: SoFla Posts: 3,605 View My Garage	From Automotive News March 12, 2015 Article Quotes: General Motors plans to cut its powertrain warranty on Chevrolet and GMC vehicles for the 2016 model year, concluding that its standout offer of 100,000-mile coverage -- in place for nearly a decade -- wasn't a strong enough selling point. The five-year/100,000-mile powertrain coverage -- once touted by former GM CEO Rick Wagoner as a symbol of the improved quality of GM's vehicles -- will be reduced to five years/60,000 miles for '16 models. The brands will continue to offer courtesy transportation and roadside assistance during the coverage period. GM also will scale back its offer of two years of free maintenance, including oil changes and tire rotations, on most new Chevy, GMC and Buick vehicles. The brands, which began the free-maintenance deal for model year 2014, will reduce the number of free service visits to two, from four, starting with '16 models. Both changes were announced in a memo sent to dealers on Wednesday. More here: http://www.autonews.com/article/2015...ews-blast&and=

03-12-2015, 03:18 PM	#32
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03-12-2015, 06:12 PM	#36
VADER SS L99 Drives: 2013 A6 GT 5.0 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Edmond, OK Posts: 2,909	I think part of it might be direct injection and the problems associated with it near 100k. Almost all engines will be DI in the future. __________________ BLK/BLK 1SS/RS Ordered 11-01-2009 Took delivery 12-22-2009. Heads/cam/converter/bolt ons. SOLD Feb 2015 to fund 6th gen LT1 SS with 8L90E.

03-12-2015, 08:53 PM	#38
shrinkdoc Drives: SRT Yugo GT Super Sport with Manual Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: va Posts: 1,536	GM Stopping !00k Powertrain Warranty http://finance.yahoo.com/news/gm-cut...--finance.html Could it be the real reasons are too many engine failures? Seems to me that if they had confidence in their power trains and wanted to maintain their customer base they would stick with the 100k warranty. When the 2016 Camaro comes out I will then give the Mustang a good look too. That extra 100k warranty would be enough to stay with Chevy but seems like they just don;t get it.

03-12-2015, 08:54 PM	#39
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03-12-2015, 01:07 PM	#30
Expunge Drives: 2013 ZL1 M6, '99 Tahoe 2Dr Sport Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: South of Houston, TX Posts: 890 View My Garage	It's all about controlling costs and maximizing profits. GM has been under pressure for their profits by their shareholders. I dont like it, but at the same point the proof will be in the sales. Personally I think they should do the Hyundai model or something similar where the 100K powertrain warranty is only good for the original owner of the vehicle. (It might be this way now, not certain)

03-12-2015, 03:38 PM	#33
LStick Drives: 2021 Shadow Gray 1LS Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Streetsboro Ohio Posts: 1,371	60k is when a lot of problems started to creep in on the GMC/Chevy trucks I bought in the past. Should be interesting.

03-12-2015, 03:51 PM	#34
stoopid Drives: 4 wheels Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: anyplace, USA Posts: 1,177	Could be a money making ploy... from what I've heard, GM is bringing the extended warranty back in-house, and this would be a way of adding value to that plan. They will sell more plans if the warranty ends 40,000 miles sooner. This might end up pushing me into a different direction with my next vehicle.

03-12-2015, 08:51 PM	#37
roorback Drives: V8 permagrin Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: here Posts: 614	Garbage. pure and simple. Complete garbage.

03-12-2015, 09:00 PM	#41
Brutal SS Drives: 2019 Camaro 2SS 1LE Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Dinwiddie, Va. Posts: 1,901	I thought that was pretty much an industry standard. This decision will hurt sales I feel. __________________

03-12-2015, 09:01 PM	#42
SSeric Drives: '10 Camaro 2SS/RS LS3 Join Date: May 2012 Location: Mckinney, TX Posts: 418 View My Garage	Disappointing. Something to consider when I make my next purchase. __________________ 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS \| RotoFab CAI \| ARH 1 7/8" LT Headers w/ HFC \| SW Retro Exhaust \| ZL1 Shifter \| Ridetech Coilovers \| FE4 conversion \| UMI toe rods & trailing arms \| Prothane Subframe & UCA bushings \| Detroit Speed sways \| Forgestar F14 wheels \| ZR1 Blue Calipers \| Tuned by ADM Performance SSeric's Build Thread