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Old 03-17-2015, 07:52 PM   #29
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I love my fiat rubicon, but recalled for trans lines {fire hazard}, power steering line{fire hazard} and now power mirror wireing {Fire hazard} it gets old. Oh it also had warantey cyl head replacement.
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Old 03-17-2015, 08:12 PM   #30
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I love my fiat rubicon, but recalled for trans lines {fire hazard}, power steering line{fire hazard} and now power mirror wireing {Fire hazard} it gets old. Oh it also had warantey cyl head replacement.
How do you like your ZL1?
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Old 03-17-2015, 08:14 PM   #31
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Yes, but now all future sales of the Hellcat are suspended. Dodge says they have so many orders and their dealers are playing silly games with "market adjustment" pricing, the factory has suspended all orders/sales until they sort out production and the dealer network.
Greedy mofos! I can't stand dealers
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Old 03-17-2015, 08:31 PM   #32
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Skinny tires are not an issue. At the 1/2 mile in Gila Bend the bone stock Hellcat was faster than any modded ZL1 an just as fast as a C7 Z06. Tires didn't seem to hurt it at all.

The fact that they have 9000 sales/orders is crazy. That is as much as the 1st 2 years of the ZL1.

I just don't get the hate. They made a great car. Good for Dodge. It will just make the next ZL1 or GT500 that much better.
+1 this seem like the right-minded way to look at it. Probably because it has some actual facts in it.
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Old 03-17-2015, 08:35 PM   #33
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If you were shopping for a new appliance would pick one near the bottom of the reliability list?
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Old 03-17-2015, 08:40 PM   #34
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If they like the way it looks and has power yup. To heck with the bottom of the list.
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Old 03-17-2015, 08:55 PM   #35
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I love the ZL1, I need to drive it more. When the rain stops I'll get out and put a grin on my face!
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Old 03-17-2015, 08:57 PM   #36
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Over the years I have found that quality in the long run is the best way to go. But that's just narrow minded of me, like owning 7 cars and 6 different brands, that is also very narrow minded of me(emphasizing my narrow mindedness). I think the ZL1 has shown it's quality and reliability. Reading the forums here and how guys have modified them and I am sure some abuse it. But where are all the stories of breakage etc. Very few, even the highly modified ones have held up. That is quality and that is why I chose this car. I don't see it as hate either, everyone who has a favorite sports team they have their rival they joke about and cut down and claim they have skinny knees. I slam on them all the time but I also respect their quality players. I like the Gt350, but not enough to buy one. The fat cat goes in a straight line fast (so does the COPO), they could have made the ZL1 faster in a straight line but 12 seconds is pretty respectable. But that same car will take you on a twisty road drive like you have never experienced with a trunk full of luggage headed for a weekend getaway and can make a world class time on the ring. What does the portly feline offer me, skinny tires, a company with a very poor reliability rating and gas spraying the engine compartment!
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Old 03-17-2015, 09:53 PM   #37
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If you were shopping for a new appliance would pick one near the bottom of the reliability list?
Depend on what was offered.
Reliability does not necessitate the best.
At least not to me.
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Old 03-17-2015, 10:18 PM   #38
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usually the guy with the most money wins....

I don't see that changing anytime soon

$$$$ wins bitches always has always will

I love my ZL1 , yeh it's slower than a hellcat, gt500 next gen gt500... but oh well, it's what I like.. furthermore lets see you get 6k off a hellcat and 0 percent for 72months.... I'm winning anyways

sheeeet I'm lucky I can afford this awesome ride...no way I'm looking at anything else
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Old 03-17-2015, 10:21 PM   #39
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The first muscle car i ever rode in was a 69 mach one, brand new. Thats when the love started for me, but i have never owned or want to own a mustang. Chevy for me all the way, even after the years(mid 70s & 80s) of poor quality pos cars they produced. Im convinced the higher the sale # go the lower the quality. That being said, the hell cat is one heck of a car, and i can't hardly wait to see what the auto industry comes up with next !
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Old 03-17-2015, 10:23 PM   #40
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lt4 zl1 prob, 640hp.....

thast a cai and a 5% pully

done and there...
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Old 03-17-2015, 10:36 PM   #41
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lt4 zl1 prob, 640hp.....

thast a cai and a 5% pully

done and there...
+1

Same here!

P.S. Plus we still have our GM warranty intact!
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Old 03-17-2015, 10:38 PM   #42
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And a 8spd transmission pipers piping.
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