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Destructo09 · 03-20-2015, 04:42 PM

It would be interesting to know if the newer cars with electric power assisted steering do in fact reduce steering input or something along those lines, the 2010-2011 Camaros have hydraulic steering while the later models are all electric assist, that would allow them to reduce the steering inputs.

Most of the time if you lose control sometimes it's best to just put 2 feet in and hold on, usually if you keep the wheel straight the car generally spins in a straight line, where if you try and steer out, you might make it worse.

If you've ever done autocross the instructors will tell you to not try and save a spin, just put both feet in (clutch and brake) and don't do any steering input.

gajagfan · 03-20-2015, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by PalmerGA

Uh... yeah. Okay.

Guess we are just two different old guys, and thats ok. Good luck with your Allstate safe drivers discount.....I know that would mean a lot to you! Have a great weekend Palmer!

PalmerGA · 03-20-2015, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by blakjak55

Meh, I don't know what it is. Every post I read from Palmer reminds me of a teenager who thinks he's always right and knows it all.

Oh I assure you I don't think that. I learn stuff on this forum every day. But I have been around a while and have learned a lot by observing and experiencing the mistakes of others (as well as myself).

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Originally Posted by blakjak55

I don't care who else likes him. Not like it's going to change my mind because some people who agree or think like him come to his aid. Call it like you see it? That's fine; doesn't make you right or whatever you say the truth. Just makes you an asshole and like a mouthy woman *most* of the time.

This is not a please like me contest. It's a "General Discussion" forum. Discussions require revealing ones opinions. The difference between my contributions to the discussion and the contributions of some others here, is that mine are always totally up front and honest. That may sometimes piss people off and I'm sorry (for you) that you can't handle my "call it like I see it" approach. I really do suggest you block my posts because I don't come here to hand out candy and binkies.

And by the way, that last sentence of yours (bolded above)... that can get you suspended or banned from the forum. It doesn't bother me that you call me that (I am an old fart with pretty thick skin), but the moderators do frown on such things. Now if I was a woman, I might have to report you

. Just a heads up for you to choose your words a little more carefully.

PalmerGA · 03-20-2015, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by gajagfan

Guess we are just two different old guys, and thats ok. Good luck with your Allstate safe drivers discount.....I know that would mean a lot to you! Have a great weekend Palmer!

State Farm

It's all good jagfan. I'll bet we could sit down and have a few cold ones together and get along just fine. We're in the same state so we may get to do that some time at a state-wide event. Do you ever go to the Pony Wars in Valdosta?

gajagfan · 03-20-2015, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by PalmerGA

State Farm

It's all good jagfan. I'll bet we could sit down and have a few cold ones together and get along just fine. We're in the same state so we may get to do that some time at a state-wide event. Do you ever go to the Pony Wars in Valdosta?

I have not been, not because of not wanting to, but still at a point in life where I can't seem to find any time. As far as the beer part, I am all in, and we are State Farm as well.

PalmerGA · 03-20-2015, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by gajagfan

I have not been, not because of not wanting to, but still at a point in life where I can't seem to find any time. As far as the beer part, I am all in, and we are State Farm as well.

Here's a link to info thread about this years event. http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=392300

backeddy · 03-20-2015, 10:51 PM

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This is not a please like me contest. It's a "General Discussion" forum. Discussions require revealing ones opinions. The difference between my contributions to the discussion and the contributions of some others here, is that mine are always totally up front and honest. That may sometimes piss people off and I'm sorry (for you) that you can't handle my "call it like I see it" approach. I really do suggest you block my posts because I don't come here to hand out candy and binkies.

You are my new best friend!

LOBBS · 03-20-2015, 11:42 PM

Tires go along ways towards determining whether hydroplaning will occur or not. Unfortunately, most summer tires have shallow grooves that do not do well in evacuating water away from the tread surface. The factory P-Zero summer tires are especially poor performers in wet conditions. Personally, I've chosen to run Continental DWS all-seasons on my SS. They've done well in the snow and rain. Honestly, I'd need a track to find a situation that they would be at a disadvantage to a set of summer tires.

PalmerGA · 03-21-2015, 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by backeddy

You are my new best friend!

Russtl · 03-22-2015, 10:35 PM

The tires are a major factor. Does anyone have any recommendations for tires that handle well in the rain?

PalmerGA · 03-22-2015, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Russtl

Does anyone have any recommendations for tires that handle well in the rain?

Here is a great place to start researching: http://tires.tirerack.com/tires/Best...eather%20Tires

Norm Peterson · 04-09-2015, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Russtl

We recently rolled our 2014 2/SS after hydroplaning. The traction control took over and made it very difficult to control the car and my wife rolled the car. I just thought it was a freak accident until I recently met 2 others that wrecked their 2014 SS due to hydroplaning and the traction control took over.

Has anyone ever encountered this? If so I think there may be a glitch or a flaw with the traction control in hydroplaning situations.

You may want to read this post. Then click on the thread title (top right) to get into the whole thread and all of the discussion. You might even want to PM that thread's OP.

Norm

Mikey D · 04-09-2015, 03:44 PM

Sorry man, that's a bummer. Looks like extremely slick muddy conditions. I got Michelin AS/3's after hydroplaning going only 40mph in my worn GY's. They dominated the rain and snow this past winter.

ZED SLED · 04-09-2015, 03:54 PM

Nothing crazier than I-81 through the Shenandoah in VA during a rain storm. I wouldn't even attempt to drive this car in the rain without traction control. The bitch is evil.

03-20-2015, 04:42 PM	#57
Destructo09 Drives: 2010 CGM Camaro 2SS/LS3 Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Raleigh-Durham Posts: 1,409	It would be interesting to know if the newer cars with electric power assisted steering do in fact reduce steering input or something along those lines, the 2010-2011 Camaros have hydraulic steering while the later models are all electric assist, that would allow them to reduce the steering inputs. Most of the time if you lose control sometimes it's best to just put 2 feet in and hold on, usually if you keep the wheel straight the car generally spins in a straight line, where if you try and steer out, you might make it worse. If you've ever done autocross the instructors will tell you to not try and save a spin, just put both feet in (clutch and brake) and don't do any steering input. __________________ 2010 2SS BMR 1" Springs Koni Orange struts/shocks 1LE rear sway bar SRP Racing Pedals Hurst Billet short shifter Square tire/wheel setup Elite Engineering Catch Can Stainless Power longtubes/highflow cats K&N Typhoon CAI RPM Motorsports of Garner, NC dyno tune (421 RWHP)

04-09-2015, 03:54 PM	#70
ZED SLED Drives: 2017 Mosaic Bk ZL1 M6 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: South of Raleigh, NC Posts: 9,616 View My Garage	Nothing crazier than I-81 through the Shenandoah in VA during a rain storm. I wouldn't even attempt to drive this car in the rain without traction control. The bitch is evil. __________________

03-20-2015, 11:42 PM	#64
LOBBS Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Independence, MO Posts: 472 View My Garage	Tires go along ways towards determining whether hydroplaning will occur or not. Unfortunately, most summer tires have shallow grooves that do not do well in evacuating water away from the tread surface. The factory P-Zero summer tires are especially poor performers in wet conditions. Personally, I've chosen to run Continental DWS all-seasons on my SS. They've done well in the snow and rain. Honestly, I'd need a track to find a situation that they would be at a disadvantage to a set of summer tires.

03-22-2015, 10:35 PM	#66
Russtl Drives: 2014 Camaro SS/2 convertible Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: WA, United States Posts: 8	The tires are a major factor. Does anyone have any recommendations for tires that handle well in the rain?

04-09-2015, 03:44 PM	#69
Mikey D Drives: 2013 SS 1LE Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: North Dallas Posts: 228	Sorry man, that's a bummer. Looks like extremely slick muddy conditions. I got Michelin AS/3's after hydroplaning going only 40mph in my worn GY's. They dominated the rain and snow this past winter.