08-21-2009, 09:36 PM | #1 |
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A 2010 Camaro Vs Charger R/T/Daytona
Hey all! I have a big concern about getting my 2010 1SS Camaro. Alright, I've been browsing the net and getting the dyno results from many Camaro SS owners with the automatic(400hp), and I don't know much about cars like many experienced owners, but why is the SS automatic not reaching anything near 400hp on the dyno?
I've heard some say its made with 400hp at the crank, ....but what does that really mean? If I'm buying an 1SS and it's suppose to come with a V8 pushing 400rwhp, how come no one else is actually getting those number on the chart? And how do I get my Hp close to though numbers? Also, I was wondering, since my Camaro SS won't be putting out a solid 400hp, would an SS automatic be able to win a race against a Charger R/T /Daytona edition? I heard they come with 368hp,....now I don't know if that's what people will get when they push it out on the track, so if it's anything like the camaro, they'll be getting less than 368? Oh,....and any solid suggestions on after-market parts I can use to get my Camaro at something around 450 HP? Long-tube headers? Air intake? New exhaust?
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08-21-2009, 10:51 PM | #2 |
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Cars advertised horsepower is what is made at the crank. assume anywhere between ~11% to 20~ loss of horsepower due to drivetrain components, and you get the rearwheel horsepower (RWHP). The Daytona Charger will get significantly less horsepower than 368 at the rear wheels stock.
BTW, the Camaro w/the L99 is rated at 400hp at the crank, NOT the rear wheels. |
08-21-2009, 11:00 PM | #3 |
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Seriously not to be a jag, but this has probably been asked about 1,201 times this week. Then when people actually do search for it they are going to have to weed thru 1,201 threads....96% of which are garbage.
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08-22-2009, 12:42 AM | #4 |
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Seriously, forum folks need to get a grip and not get so upset when questions are asked more than once...or even 100 times. It's an internet forum and people will be coming and going and all be at varying levels of knowledge. Yes...there's a search function, but its really not that big of a deal.
If you don't want to see the question...don't read the question. It's as simple as that.
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08-22-2009, 12:59 AM | #5 |
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You should have no problem with the charger as a friend of mine from work has a Daytona Charger R/T with a CAI and a superchip. His best time at Red River Raceway is 14.12 which is nothing anywhere near where you will be and this one has a few little mods. If the other your going to race is stock you will shall we put it mildly ahem pwn him lol. No worries. I would also race from a dead stand still as the camaro moves out pretty well and the charger outweighs you as well. None of that racing from a rolling start crap. Not that you should have a problem there either but a true race is from a dead stop. Good luck. Happy pwning! Ill be waiting to hear your results.
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08-22-2009, 01:44 AM | #6 |
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i recommend the late model racecraft cai .... i installed mine the other day and it sounds and looks great and i felt a pretty good difference in throttle response and power . just my two cents .....( cant wait to put my cam tune and headers ) big power gains there ,you should really think bout that to reach the hp you want .
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08-22-2009, 08:00 AM | #7 |
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it really depends on the l99 you got. some are performing well and some are 14 second cars. if you got a good one you have nothing to worry about but if you got a bad one, look out!
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08-22-2009, 02:22 PM | #8 |
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Have they got that worked out for the new ones? I am planning on ordering in december or so, don't want a dog.
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I am sure it will be in the 11's his next time out. If I had to take a guess at the power level now, i'd say it's an EASY 440-450 at the wheels. |
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08-22-2009, 02:46 PM | #10 |
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You wont have a problem beating an R/T Charger but "any SRT" will be close they have 425hp vs your 400hp but they do have more weight. With that said I've never seen a stock SRT most have at least a tune, CAI, and Catbacks .
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08-22-2009, 03:37 PM | #11 |
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Oh, my god, WOW. You guys have some great responses, especially joelster/Kamaro; very informative. At least now, I know what I have to do to get the gains I want(450hp). And thanks for explaining what "at the crank" means. But yea, I have alot of guys with chargers with LOUD exhuast on it wanting to race and they kinda just laugh at the new camaros; I wanna race them. I guess they're foolish to laugh, but they're really dodge fans at the heart; wont give chevy credit for the camaro even if it's outright beating they're cars in speed and power.
But in November when I get my 1SS Camaro auto, Im gonna start upgrading. Just a lil saving here and there and Ill be there before you know it. I want a new exhuast, new cold air intake, and to finish it off, new headers, I want the long tube headers by "Hennesy", they're proved at having gains of 50HP with a tune, 30hp stock without a tune. So that's really what I'm trying to get first. But after that, Im going to stop upgrading. I just want a very fast, nice car, I mean Im not trying to beat a corvette in a race,...although it would add something to my ego, but take a whole lot from my wallet. Thanks all.
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08-22-2009, 08:49 PM | #12 |
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My friend Mike at New Era Performance Parts ran his box-stock. It ran a 13.38 at 104. He installed his over-the-radiator cold air kit, a set of headers, and did a tune on the pcm mainly fixing the shift calibrations. He went out and ran a 12.60 at 109. Those 3 mods are still with the stock restrictive cat-back on it. Since then he has installed a VVT cam and a new exhaust but he doesn't have track times yet. Here's a small clip of the car now with the cam:
The car comes stock with a VVT cam, do you know which after market cam he installed?
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08-22-2009, 11:19 PM | #14 |
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Nice. Keep us posted on the performance gains.
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