04-05-2015, 09:56 AM | #1 |
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How Low Can You Safely Lower?
Ok, here's the deal. I have put 19 in. wheels on my 2010 SS/RS Camaro, & am using 275/35/19 in. Michelin Pilot Super Sport tires.
With the 35 aspect ratio sidewalls of the tires in addition of the 19 in. BBS CHR wheels, I now have a 3.250 in. TIRE TO FENDER GAP on both ends of the car! I am getting ready to install a Ride Tech HQ Level 2 coil over suspension & WOULD LIKE to lower the car AT LEAST 1.5 in. (or possibly 2.0 in.) to get the tire to fender gap back to about ONE INCH ( OR LESS). The Level 2 HQ system is capable of lowering the car a FULL 2 in., but I have read from a few vendors on this forum that it IS NOT ADVISABLE to lower the 2010-2015 Camaro over 1.250 in. in the REAR, do to the EXCESSIVE DRIVE SHAFT ANGLES that it would cause. There are also SEVERAL companies that sell LOWERING SPRINGS that will lower the Camaro (WELL OVER 1.250 in. in THE REAR) & say nothing to the effect that using them may cause damage to the DRIVE AXLES! SO WHO DO YOU BELIEVE! & what is the SAFE LOWERING DIMENSION FOR THE GEN 5 Camaro? Would you guys who have lowered your Camaro OVER 1.25 in. IN THE REAR, PLEASE LET ME KNOW how much you have SAFELY lowered your Camaro, using it as a daily driver. Thanks In Advance For ALL Your Help. Orange 2010 Camaro |
04-05-2015, 10:46 AM | #2 |
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I wouldn't go lower than 1.5" max. Geometry would be impacted too much and you also lose suspension travel.
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04-05-2015, 11:09 AM | #3 |
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I tried to run coilovers at 1.75 and found that it would wear the inside of rear tires really bad..could not adjust camber any better to prevent this from happening..went back to 1.5 and no issues with tire wear.
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04-05-2015, 03:10 PM | #4 |
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No lower than 650mm from top of wheel arch to lower wheel lip. $0.02
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04-05-2015, 04:32 PM | #5 |
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The more you lower your car the more angle it puts into your AXLES.This puts the axles at a bad angle which means they will not hold near the power of an unlowered car.This not only leads to a much greater chance e of them breaking but makes them very inefficient and prematurely wear.If you look at axle breakage its almost always on lowered cars,coil overs are a lot more likely since there lowered even more.This is the reason we finally released our special diff bushings to the public.These bushings effectively UN lower the car.Give me a call and we can help you out we have just a few sets left
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04-05-2015, 04:39 PM | #6 | |
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Can we see pictures of said bushings? |
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04-05-2015, 07:51 PM | #7 | |
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Attached is a photo of my 2010 SS with only 10,000 mi. on the clock. Orange 2010 Camaro |
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04-05-2015, 08:49 PM | #8 |
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I am guessing these "diff bushings" raise the diff to compensate for the lower stance of the car? Thus getting the axle angles back to what they were before lowering the car...?
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04-05-2015, 11:39 PM | #11 |
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Basically my understanding is it moves the diff up as he says, putting the angles in the axles to a more stock angle.not putting as much stress on the joints
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04-06-2015, 08:15 AM | #12 |
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Say for instance the Camaro has 6" of wheel travel, 3" up, 3" down. You lowered the car 1.5". You now have 1.5" up travel and 4.5" down travel. The axles now are rarely straight vrs. stock mostly straight. Some of us who have lowered our cars have had our axle boots split and then have them reworked... and then there is the issue of rear suspension binding according to the experts(not me) here on camaro5. So, the "experts" reccomend NOT to lower beyond 660mm with 20" wheels, 648mm with 19" wheels,635mm with 18" wheels. $0.02.
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04-06-2015, 04:25 PM | #14 |
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660 mm wherr is that measured from? That's 25"s
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