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Old 04-04-2015, 03:29 PM   #15
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But wait...... What was the auntie doing? Was she not trying to get the child out?
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Old 04-04-2015, 03:52 PM   #16
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Horrible.

Why did the attorney have to drag out the "America" rah-rah? He stated that Chrysler "put American families at risk". It's not a crime if American families aren't affected?
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Old 04-04-2015, 06:29 PM   #17
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pretty sure through Chrysler appeals and judge 'reductions' and lawyers fees the family will be lucky to collect a few million.
I was thinking the same thing. By the time it is all said and done, that family may not even see 1% of that. Chrysler can keep it tied up in the court system for so long that they might be at retirement age before they receive their first payment.
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Old 04-04-2015, 06:39 PM   #18
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Horrible.

Why did the attorney have to drag out the "America" rah-rah? He stated that Chrysler "put American families at risk". It's not a crime if American families aren't affected?
Nope! J/k.... But I'm guessing because Americans are the ones that really buy these cars and it's an American brand.
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Old 04-06-2015, 01:36 AM   #19
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pretty sure through Chrysler appeals and judge 'reductions' and lawyers fees the family will be lucky to collect a few million.
Think so? How do you figure. I'm genuinely curious on this.
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Old 04-06-2015, 01:58 AM   #20
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Horrible.

Why did the attorney have to drag out the "America" rah-rah? He stated that Chrysler "put American families at risk". It's not a crime if American families aren't affected?
Exceptionalism.

Next question please.
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Old 04-06-2015, 03:06 AM   #21
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It must caught on fire very quick if the driver couldn't get the boy out. Very sad to read.
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Old 04-06-2015, 12:00 PM   #22
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Horrible.

Why did the attorney have to drag out the "America" rah-rah? He stated that Chrysler "put American families at risk". It's not a crime if American families aren't affected?
American car company that boasts "imported from Detroit" and "America's import", in a lawsuit taking place in America that effected some American families. This of course argued to an American judge and jury. That's probably why. Trials are more about stirring emotions than anything else.

I'd put money that if it was a Honda that caught on fire in Japan caused by the same negligence or lack of care, that the Japanese attorney would make the same argument "Honda put Japanese families at risk...".

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I'm all for compensation but even if the family got $150 million from Chrysler does that really help them get over the loss of their son? Kind of ridiculous, they can give them 1 million or 1 billion they still lost a son, I don't see the point in trying to get more and more money.
I used to wonder that too, and I think from my point of view, it's about hurting the corporation rather than trying to dry up the tears with dollars. Companies like this could voluntarily fix those issues... it's not like this hasn't been brought up. The reason they don't, is that it eats away at their profits. Money is more important than anything to them, which is why if you are trying to hurt them, you take them for as much as you can.
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I find it weird that the driver who caused the accident that led to the subsiquent death of the child only 1% responsible.
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I find it weird that the driver who caused the accident that led to the subsiquent death of the child only 1% responsible.
I thought that was a little strange too. Certainly a design flaw attributed to the death, but the design flaw was not "could cause spontaneous combustion". Maybe because the drivers of both vehicles were uninjured?
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It must caught on fire very quick if the driver couldn't get the boy out. Very sad to read.
I'd guess it burst into flames and overwhelmed the vehicle quickly. I'm sure even bystanders would have fought to free that child if there was a chance. Even if it meant getting burnt badly yourself.

RIP little one. I hope the parents and Aunt find the strength to cope with such a tragic loss
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I find it weird that the driver who caused the accident that led to the subsiquent death of the child only 1% responsible.
My only guess would have to be that it wasnt a very significant impact. They are seeing it like, if the driver that caused the accident hit a car that didnt have a defect that caused the fuel tank to burst into flames, the child would be alive and well.
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American car company that boasts "imported from Detroit" and "America's import", in a lawsuit taking place in America that effected some American families. This of course argued to an American judge and jury. That's probably why. Trials are more about stirring emotions than anything else.
Honestly, you don't find your reply just a small touch derivative? Many, and I mean many lawsuits and court cases in the USA only have to do with things that happened in the USA and only affected people in the USA. All the attorney is doing is playing the rah-rah card, and hopefully somebody calls him on it. Our justice system is becoming a mockery of not just our concepts of justice, but the collective intelligence of the US citizen as well. In this case a kid needlessly died, and if the attorney doesn't have enough ammo in his locker based on facts and needs this, something's wrong. So this is just some add-on frippery which has become the accepted norm. I'm tired of this sort of nonsense and you probably are too.
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Honestly, you don't find your reply just a small touch derivative? Many, and I mean many lawsuits and court cases in the USA only have to do with things that happened in the USA and only affected people in the USA. All the attorney is doing is playing the rah-rah card, and hopefully somebody calls him on it. Our justice system is becoming a mockery of not just our concepts of justice, but the collective intelligence of the US citizen as well. In this case a kid needlessly died, and if the attorney doesn't have enough ammo in his locker based on facts and needs this, something's wrong. So this is just some add-on frippery which has become the accepted norm. I'm tired of this sort of nonsense and you probably are too.
I don't disagree. That's why I said that the trials are more about stirring emotions. "Rah-rah" or not, it's pretty effective on most people. Is it a distracting filler? Absolutely... just like

"For the children"
"Hurting the middle class"
"Hard working Americans"
"Deserves justice"
and even (and especially) "Common sense approach".

Regardless, when most people use those words and phrases, they have very little to do with what said person is actually trying to accomplish. Can't argue with their effectiveness on the vast majority of the population though. And yeah... I'm a little tired of it being used to make up for lack of substance. But that's probably about as far as that side conversation can go
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