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Unreal · 04-25-2015, 08:19 PM

Exactly, e85 takes 25-30% more fuel. So if it that dual pump can make 800rwhp maxed out, ~600rwhp on e85 is going to max it out.

realcanuk · 04-25-2015, 09:24 PM

Don't use ID1000's for E85. If you are buying anyways, get the 1300's. They are the only ID's that are all stainless and good for E85.

2010SSRSM6 · 04-26-2015, 05:54 AM

Bosch 1000's work great

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Reelgrinder · 04-26-2015, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Trob85

Everything you know about limits on 93 forget about it e85 is completely different. If those pumps are rated for 1000 hp (max) at the crank using 93 octane, you'll only get around 700-750 (max) at the crank with e85.

I'm good with that. . I'm at 650 now.. after i sell my 850s I'll have 1300.00 in it for 50 to 100 more hp..

Thats as cheap as nos and meth.. with out the need of refilling tanks. E85 is 1.50 93 is 2.80 that's lt makes since the price of cheaper fuel out weights 30% more consumption and Hassel of refilling a washer fluid bottler or nos tank.

I'll probably use FIC 1000s

Unreal · 04-26-2015, 05:30 PM

Refilling a washer bottle is nothing. Top off once a month. Takes 30 seconds.

Trob85 · 04-26-2015, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Reelgrinder

I'm good with that. . I'm at 650 now.. after i sell my 850s I'll have 1300.00 in it for 50 to 100 more hp..

Thats as cheap as nos and meth.. with out the need of refilling tanks. E85 is 1.50 93 is 2.80 that's lt makes since the price of cheaper fuel out weights 30% more consumption and Hassel of refilling a washer fluid bottler or nos tank.

I'll probably use FIC 1000s

Well then heck yea go for I would check first though and make sure their pump is good for using e85.

Nitroman28 · 04-26-2015, 05:54 PM

Whats involved in tuning with a flex fuel sensor? Do you tune it for 93 then drain and tune for E85 then the computer takes over?

NicKey · 04-26-2015, 07:45 PM

A flex fuel table already exists in the stock Camaro Computer. It needs to be turned on and tuned to E85. The controller will the adjust for the percentage of fuel to Ethanol.

B5254T4 · 04-27-2015, 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NicKey

A flex fuel table already exists in the stock Camaro Computer. It needs to be turned on and tuned to E85. The controller will the adjust for the percentage of fuel to Ethonol.

It is? Where do you connect the sensor? Possible to do this in HP Tuner?

NicKey · 04-27-2015, 11:21 AM

Yes, HP Tuners will support this.

Dave Steck's / DSX tuning, controller gets installed in line, and he has an instruction sheet for wiring the controller into the ECM connector.

We also used a Squash dual pump system.

NicKey · 04-27-2015, 11:25 AM

Here is a NicKey Stage II ZL1 first tuned on 91 Octane with no Ethanol and then with E85 (Winter Blend).

Nitroman28 · 04-27-2015, 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NicKey

A flex fuel table already exists in the stock Camaro Computer. It needs to be turned on and tuned to E85. The controller will the adjust for the percentage of fuel to Ethonol.

I'm putting a new motor in my car so it's not tuned yet. So would I need to tune it for the 93 first then the e85? I plan on using e85 all the time but want the insurance of the sensor in case I get bad e85.

NicKey · 04-27-2015, 07:29 PM

That is what we did. Made certain that it was tuned properly on gas first and then E85.

Bo White · 04-27-2015, 08:21 PM

The local ctsv guys are running out of pump at 800 crank hp as am I.

04-25-2015, 08:19 PM	#15
Unreal Drives: 2006 Z06 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Gilbert, AZ Posts: 5,712	Exactly, e85 takes 25-30% more fuel. So if it that dual pump can make 800rwhp maxed out, ~600rwhp on e85 is going to max it out. __________________ Nick Corvette Z06 -1200ish rwhp

04-25-2015, 09:24 PM	#16
realcanuk Drives: 2007 Corvette C6 983 RWHP Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Montreal, Canada Posts: 690	Don't use ID1000's for E85. If you are buying anyways, get the 1300's. They are the only ID's that are all stainless and good for E85. __________________ 2007 C6 vert, auto, F55, LT3 LME LS402 , WCCH 245 Heads, Pat G. Custom cam YSI / 3.0 pulley, ARH 1 7/8 headers, NPP Dewitts / dual spals, A&A dual pump fuel system. 3.42 polished gears, hardened shafts, Alky control meth, Cartech line lock, ECS axle loops, Trans brace, 6L80 built by me. ID 1000 injectors, comp rockers, Morel lifters, BT springs, Trend 3/8 pushrods, ATI 10% OD Damper Circle D Triple Disc stall 1009 RWHP @ 7000, 817 RWTQ @ 6000,

04-26-2015, 05:54 AM	#17
2010SSRSM6 Drives: My wife crazy with my C5 usage. Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: DFW Posts: 6,553 View My Garage	Bosch 1000's work great Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ UNDER CONSTRUCTION......again......

04-26-2015, 05:30 PM	#19
Unreal Drives: 2006 Z06 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Gilbert, AZ Posts: 5,712	Refilling a washer bottle is nothing. Top off once a month. Takes 30 seconds. __________________ Nick Corvette Z06 -1200ish rwhp

04-26-2015, 07:45 PM	#22
NicKey Drives: Nickey Super Camaro Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Loves Park, Illinois Posts: 1,686	A flex fuel table already exists in the stock Camaro Computer. It needs to be turned on and tuned to E85. The controller will the adjust for the percentage of fuel to Ethanol. Last edited by NicKey; 04-27-2015 at 11:19 PM.

04-26-2015, 05:54 PM	#21
Nitroman28 Drives: 2010 Camaro SS 416/4L80 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Arkansas Posts: 1,835 View My Garage	Whats involved in tuning with a flex fuel sensor? Do you tune it for 93 then drain and tune for E85 then the computer takes over?

04-27-2015, 11:21 AM	#24
NicKey Drives: Nickey Super Camaro Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Loves Park, Illinois Posts: 1,686	Yes, HP Tuners will support this. Dave Steck's / DSX tuning, controller gets installed in line, and he has an instruction sheet for wiring the controller into the ECM connector. We also used a Squash dual pump system.

04-27-2015, 11:25 AM	#25
NicKey Drives: Nickey Super Camaro Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Loves Park, Illinois Posts: 1,686	Here is a NicKey Stage II ZL1 first tuned on 91 Octane with no Ethanol and then with E85 (Winter Blend). Attached Images

04-27-2015, 07:29 PM	#27
NicKey Drives: Nickey Super Camaro Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Loves Park, Illinois Posts: 1,686	That is what we did. Made certain that it was tuned properly on gas first and then E85.

04-27-2015, 08:21 PM	#28
Bo White Drives: 2015 Summit White 2SS 1LE Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Vance Alabama Posts: 8,107	The local ctsv guys are running out of pump at 800 crank hp as am I. __________________ Retired wanna be cylinder head porter 2015 2SS 1LE Clutch reservoir, Vararam DRX, ported TB, TSP 2" headers, MGW shifter, stage 4 cam and Wilkes 11° 65cc heads Totalled: 2010 1SS Wilkes Performance/Eagle 416 shortblock, TSP custom valvetrain, PRC 260 heads, Edelbrock Pro Flo 102, th400 swap, 8" PTC 5500 stall= 535/435 at the wheels tuned Gen 3 Performance and Dyno 10.97 @ 124 full weight in 3100 DA CamaroFest X