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Old 04-29-2015, 11:01 PM   #15
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83k? no thanks.
If you're balking at $83k the car wasn't built with you in mind. Simple as that.

It's a Cadillac. Not a Chevrolet.

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Autoblog is full of comments that the car is a fail simply because they aren't charging the same as BMW. WTF???????
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Old 04-29-2015, 11:03 PM   #16
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If you're balking at $83k the car wasn't built with you in mind. Simple as that.

It's a Cadillac. Not a Chevrolet.



this is true, we tend to think with our own wallets, not those of the demographic they expect to actual buy these.
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Old 04-29-2015, 11:16 PM   #17
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If you're balking at $83k the car wasn't built with you in mind. Simple as that.

It's a Cadillac. Not a Chevrolet.



Im balking because Cadillac thinks its the 50s all over again. The days are long gone where people associate Cadillac with luxury and I just dont see them selling many Cadillacs starting at 83k...only exception is Escalade of course. They have a looong way to building up brand image.
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Autoblog is full of comments that the car is a fail simply because they aren't charging the same as BMW. WTF???????
I see what the problem is ... you were paying attention to the comments on a blog. Stop doing that and you'll save yourself a lot of confusion and facepalms.
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Im balking because Cadillac thinks its the 50s all over again. The days are long gone where people associate Cadillac with luxury and I just dont see them selling many Cadillacs starting at 83k...only exception is Escalade of course. They have a looong way to building up brand image.
I don't know what else they would associate Cadillac with...
They will sell plenty of Cadillacs starting at 83k.
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Cheetos!!!!!
So if there is a ZL1 coming our way we should see a similar price?
They share the same motor and trans now so a zl1 should see mid 70s?
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I don't know what else they would associate Cadillac with...
They will sell plenty of Cadillacs starting at 83k.
Some people still associate Cadillac with these:



Sad days indeed
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Some people still associate Cadillac with these:



Sad days indeed
I was thinking more on the lines of my grandma driving this to sunday church.
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Cheetos!!!!!
So if there is a ZL1 coming our way we should see a similar price?
They share the same motor and trans now so a zl1 should see mid 70s?
It would, if it weren't for the fact that price depends more on value than on cost. A diamond is just a rock that someone dug out of the ground for next to nothing, but they are substantially far more valuable than most rocks due to the fact that they're special rocks instead of ordinary rocks.
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[QUOTE=FenwickHockey65;8392865]If you're balking at $83k the car wasn't built with you in mind. Simple as that.

It's a Cadillac. Not a Chevrolet.



What's wrong with a Chevy ? Chevy can sell cars that's over 83k. Just look at the ZR1 . And there are many who prefer a Chevy over a Cadi like me.
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If you're balking at $83k the car wasn't built with you in mind. Simple as that.

It's a Cadillac. Not a Chevrolet.



What's wrong with a Chevy ? Chevy can sell cars that's over 83k. Just look at the ZR1 . And there are many who prefer a Chevy over a Cadi like me.
count me in....ZR1
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Old 04-30-2015, 04:33 AM   #27
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Im balking because Cadillac thinks its the 50s all over again. The days are long gone where people associate Cadillac with luxury and I just dont see them selling many Cadillacs starting at 83k...only exception is Escalade of course. They have a looong way to building up brand image.
How are you going to build up brand image if you keep selling your cars at discount prices? Then you become known as the bargain luxury brand and in the luxury world, that gets you nowhere.

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What's wrong with a Chevy ? Chevy can sell cars that's over 83k. Just look at the ZR1 . And there are many who prefer a Chevy over a Cadi like me.
You and I both know Corvette is a special circumstance that transcends the general perception of the Chevrolet brand.
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Old 04-30-2015, 06:42 AM   #28
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84k is entry level Porsche 911 range! I love cars at all levels, but some of these prices are truly insane! I make a very good living but would never consider spending that much money on an automobile anymore. I was stunned when I walked through the Chevrolet dealership last week and discovered that the Tahoe now routinely lists in the 60's. People are either making a lot more $ than I think or getting themselves into too much debt for a rapidly depreciating asset. I'm comfortable with spending 30-40k for my cars, but much more than that is difficult for me to justify given today's quality choices. Now, that said, I have come to this conclusion after some pretty expensive purchases in the past... ('03 Corvette convertible 57k, '09 911 83k, '13 GT500 62k, and now my '15 ZL1 which fortunately for me was only 46k). Expensive lesson to learn, but I love my Sierra SLE and my wife's Enclave, both with cloth seats and costing about 36k each! God bless America.
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