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ProchargedSS · 05-29-2015, 08:28 AM

I'm about to take my bumper off to have it repainted. Bought the car in TX and it has a front license plate bracket screwed into it.

I'm thinking about going ahead and upgrading the heat exchanger while it is off. I don't really have any supporting mods........yet. Just a CAI. Is this a waste of time? Would my boost levels be negatively affected by the larger capacity HX?

I'm planning on doing pulley swaps, headers and a cam in the future, but I don't want to adversely affect the performance in the here and now.

Any help or comments appreciated.

Thanks.

Stephen12ZL1 · 05-29-2015, 09:52 AM

if the front end is already off, it makes perfect sense to swap it out now vs later. You won't gain anything until supporting mods are performed. You also won't lose anything compared to the stock unit. Boost levels are not affected by this type of liquid heat exchanger. You are thinking about the old air/air type intercoolers that the GN turbo V-6 cars had which could affect boost levels. The intercooler bricks are located under the top hat of the supercharger in our supercharged setup.

Expunge · 05-29-2015, 10:14 AM

Seconded

This is what I went with and it works great:
http://www.jdpmotorsports.com/brands...l1-2-16ca12zl1

Stephen12ZL1 · 05-29-2015, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Expunge

Seconded

This is what I went with and it works great:
http://www.jdpmotorsports.com/brands...l1-2-16ca12zl1

top notch unit there and a great price $550!

DrkPhx · 05-29-2015, 11:30 AM

I just ordered the C&R Racing HX and will install it this weekend. Got at 10% off at Summit.

ProchargedSS · 05-29-2015, 12:25 PM

Thanks for the input. I noticed Jegs has an AFCO unit with Spal fans attached. Thoughts on this?

ProchargedSS · 05-29-2015, 12:34 PM

http://www.jegs.com/i/AFCO+Cooling/9...83PRO/10002/-1

ProchargedSS · 05-29-2015, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Stephen12ZL1

if the front end is already off, it makes perfect sense to swap it out now vs later. You won't gain anything until supporting mods are performed. You also won't lose anything compared to the stock unit. Boost levels are not affected by this type of liquid heat exchanger. You are thinking about the old air/air type intercoolers that the GN turbo V-6 cars had which could affect boost levels. The intercooler bricks are located under the top hat of the supercharger in our supercharged setup.

You're right. I'm accustomed to the old style air to air coolers. Wasn't even thinking.

Wouldn't I at least gain more consistently cooler temps in the short term though? Cooler temps = more hp right?

ZL1Kid_AL · 05-29-2015, 01:29 PM

I think cooler overall temps = the longer the car can be efficient in making power

Heat soak is a real killer in these cars when you up the boost, If the bumper will be off go ahead and do it and save the headache of doing it later

mdntmank · 06-04-2015, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by ProchargedSS

Thanks for the input. I noticed Jegs has an AFCO unit with Spal fans attached. Thoughts on this?

Just a little noisy but works great....

ProchargedSS · 06-04-2015, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by mdntmank

Just a little noisy but works great....

Hmm. Spal fans are usually pretty good. I will find out soon enough. Ordered the heat exchanger and D3 reservoir yesterday. Time to get to work.

ProchargedSS · 06-10-2015, 11:30 AM

Just waiting for my D3 reservoir now!

Ron_Robinson1 · 06-10-2015, 11:42 AM

AFCO for the win. That's what I have. But you can definitely hear the fans. I don't mind though.

ProchargedSS · 06-10-2015, 11:47 AM

Just unpacked it and it has a dent in the core. Should I go with it and see if it leaks or see if they will send another?

05-29-2015, 08:28 AM	#1
ProchargedSS Drives: 2014 ZL1 SIM Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Biloxi, MS Posts: 226	Repainting bumper......considering new heat exchanger. I'm about to take my bumper off to have it repainted. Bought the car in TX and it has a front license plate bracket screwed into it. I'm thinking about going ahead and upgrading the heat exchanger while it is off. I don't really have any supporting mods........yet. Just a CAI. Is this a waste of time? Would my boost levels be negatively affected by the larger capacity HX? I'm planning on doing pulley swaps, headers and a cam in the future, but I don't want to adversely affect the performance in the here and now. Any help or comments appreciated. Thanks. __________________ 2014 ZL1 A6

05-29-2015, 09:52 AM	#2
Stephen12ZL1 Drives: '21 ZLE A10 Join Date: May 2012 Location: Mechanicsville, VA Posts: 6,815	if the front end is already off, it makes perfect sense to swap it out now vs later. You won't gain anything until supporting mods are performed. You also won't lose anything compared to the stock unit. Boost levels are not affected by this type of liquid heat exchanger. You are thinking about the old air/air type intercoolers that the GN turbo V-6 cars had which could affect boost levels. The intercooler bricks are located under the top hat of the supercharger in our supercharged setup. __________________ '21 ZLE A10 Wild Cherry PDR 2:00.78 VIR Full 10.68@131.69 1.68 60' '17 ZL1 A10 Mosaic Black PDR/Nav 2:03.08 VIR Full 11.003@129.2 1.75 (sold) '15 Z/28 #325 Black a/c & stereo. 2:10.1 VIR Full (sold) '12 ZL1 A6 Black 10.52@131 1.55 60' 2:13 VIR Full (sold)

05-29-2015, 12:25 PM	#6
ProchargedSS Drives: 2014 ZL1 SIM Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Biloxi, MS Posts: 226	Thanks for the input. I noticed Jegs has an AFCO unit with Spal fans attached. Thoughts on this? __________________ 2014 ZL1 A6

05-29-2015, 12:34 PM	#7
ProchargedSS Drives: 2014 ZL1 SIM Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Biloxi, MS Posts: 226	http://www.jegs.com/i/AFCO+Cooling/9...83PRO/10002/-1 __________________ 2014 ZL1 A6

05-29-2015, 01:29 PM	#9
ZL1Kid_AL Drives: 2014 ZL1- Summit White M6 Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Thornton, Colorado Posts: 462	I think cooler overall temps = the longer the car can be efficient in making power Heat soak is a real killer in these cars when you up the boost, If the bumper will be off go ahead and do it and save the headache of doing it later __________________ 750whp @ 13psi Garage Built on Jack Stands.. 850++ 100 shot of sauce

05-29-2015, 10:14 AM	#3
Expunge Drives: 2013 ZL1 M6, '99 Tahoe 2Dr Sport Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: South of Houston, TX Posts: 890 View My Garage	Seconded This is what I went with and it works great: http://www.jdpmotorsports.com/brands...l1-2-16ca12zl1

05-29-2015, 11:30 AM	#5
DrkPhx Drives: 2013 Triple Black ZL1 / 2006 TB SS Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: MN Posts: 2,250	I just ordered the C&R Racing HX and will install it this weekend. Got at 10% off at Summit.

06-10-2015, 11:30 AM	#12
ProchargedSS Drives: 2014 ZL1 SIM Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Biloxi, MS Posts: 226	Just waiting for my D3 reservoir now! Attached Images __________________ 2014 ZL1 A6

06-10-2015, 11:42 AM	#13
Ron_Robinson1 Drives: A Static line to a pack tray & ZL1 Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Centeral NY Posts: 2,276	AFCO for the win. That's what I have. But you can definitely hear the fans. I don't mind though. __________________ 2017 ZL1 A10: 8.84 @ 156 PB 2017 ZL1 A10: Previously FBO 756/761 (9.6 @ 143 1/4) SOLD-2013 ZL1 M6:BTR,LTs,IDs,ATI,RotoFab10.84@129 SOLD-2011 SS M6: Blower, Cam, Alky, LTs.

06-10-2015, 11:47 AM	#14
ProchargedSS Drives: 2014 ZL1 SIM Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Biloxi, MS Posts: 226	Just unpacked it and it has a dent in the core. Should I go with it and see if it leaks or see if they will send another? Attached Images __________________ 2014 ZL1 A6