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Old 06-09-2015, 04:14 PM   #13987
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Dropped it off to get some 1LE componentry in, the first steps on my suspension upgrades.
Full 1LE Track Pack, or what exactly?
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Old 06-09-2015, 04:17 PM   #13988
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Picked it up from the 1LE suspension install, pretty much everything but the front sway bar.

Subframe, radius rod, differential, and upper control arm bushings, as well as rear trailing arms, and possibly some 1 inch drop springs, are all on the list for next set of suspension upgrades. That's probably not until next year though.

10 inch square setup and some all season tires to get me through the winter come next.
And I just read this, disregard my other post. Nice.
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Old 06-09-2015, 04:19 PM   #13989
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If you're in a panic braking situation, pulling the handbrake will quickly turn it into a real emergency situation when the rear end flips around and the car starts spinning. Seems pretty accurate calling it an emergency brake since it will cause emergencies.
Oh, c'mon... it all depends on what speed you're going, road conditions etc. To me its better than just heading straight into a brick wall... I'll flip the rear end around any day of the week if my brakes gave out and that were the case...
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Oh, c'mon... it all depends on what speed you're going, road conditions etc. To me its better than just heading straight into a brick wall... I'll flip the rear end around any day of the week if my brakes gave out and that were the case...
All the handbrake does is lock the rear brakes up, you'd be far better off using the normal brake pedal at any speed with the nannies on. I hope no one is stupid enough on here to have read that and tries pulling the handbrake at high speed when they think they're going to rear end someone.
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All the handbrake does is lock the rear brakes up, you'd be far better off using the normal brake pedal at any speed with the nannies on. I hope no one is stupid enough on here to have read that and tries pulling the handbrake at high speed when they think they're going to rear end someone.
It won't lock if you don't release the button... what am I talking to 10 year olds here??

Okay then... you be you and well, I'll be me, and instead of slamming into a vehicle in front of me, I'll flip the rear end and reduce my collision speed one way or another.
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Maybe this is sound advice. Read carefully!!:

When to Use the Emergency Brake

Using the emergency brake to stop a moving vehicle outside of a total brake failure is not recommended and can damage your brake system. This is why it's not a good idea to pretend you're a racecar driver and slam on the e-brake to spin in a circle. Driving with your emergency brake engaged can also cause damage to the emergency brake cable and the service brakes. If this happens to you, have your brake shoes and rotors checked as soon as possible, to ensure everything is OK.

http://auto.howstuffworks.com/auto-p...cy-brakes2.htm


It'll meet you halfway down the article some:

Now onto the big question: Is using the emergency brake safe when the other brakes fail? Yes and no. Pulling the brake lever quickly will cause the vehicle to fishtail, lock up or skid, essentially removing control of the vehicle from the driver. But if you're ever in the highly unlikely but extremely serious situation of having your service brakes fail to function, try to stay calm and pull the emergency brake lever up slow and steady, bringing the vehicle to a longer but more controlled stop.

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Maybe this is sound advice. Read carefully!!:

When to Use the Emergency Brake

Using the emergency brake to stop a moving vehicle outside of a total brake failure is not recommended and can damage your brake system. This is why it's not a good idea to pretend you're a racecar driver and slam on the e-brake to spin in a circle. Driving with your emergency brake engaged can also cause damage to the emergency brake cable and the service brakes. If this happens to you, have your brake shoes and rotors checked as soon as possible, to ensure everything is OK.

http://auto.howstuffworks.com/auto-p...cy-brakes2.htm


It'll meet you halfway down the article some:

Now onto the big question: Is using the emergency brake safe when the other brakes fail? Yes and no. Pulling the brake lever quickly will cause the vehicle to fishtail, lock up or skid, essentially removing control of the vehicle from the driver. But if you're ever in the highly unlikely but extremely serious situation of having your service brakes fail to function, try to stay calm and pull the emergency brake lever up slow and steady, bringing the vehicle to a longer but more controlled stop.

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Such bad advice, I hope nobody hurts themselves or someone else because you're trying to prove some point. Everyone should keep their tires, brakes, and suspension components well maintained on their car. Pulling the handbrake isn't going to help if the brakes are already shot, and will cause the car to "fishtail, lock up or skid, essentially removing control of the vehicle from the driver" just like the article you quoted says.
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Old 06-09-2015, 04:43 PM   #13994
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And yes I read carefully, I understand what you're trying to prove but it general, it is a very bad idea to pull the handbrake to avoid an accident.
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Such bad advice, I hope nobody hurts themselves ore someone else because you're trying to prove some point. Everyone should keep their tires, brakes, and suspension components well maintained on their car. Pulling the handbrake isn't going to help if the brakes are already shot, and will cause the car to "fishtail, lock up or skid, essentially removing control of the vehicle from the driver" just like the article you quoted says.
Subjective and that is your perspective. Did you bother to read the rest, or only what benefits your point?

But if you're ever in the highly unlikely but extremely serious situation of having your service brakes fail to function, try to stay calm and pull the emergency brake lever up slow and steady, bringing the vehicle to a longer but more controlled stop.

However, by all means... if you lose your 'service brakes', please proceed straight into that brick wall without any further attempt to slow your speed down using the EMERGENCY BRAKE. It'd benefit the gene pool, that's for sure...

And have a nice day, done with this.
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And yes I read carefully, I understand what you're trying to prove but it general, it is a very bad idea to pull the handbrake to avoid an accident.

That is not what is being talked about here. You've lost your brakes, pedal hits the floor... you're just going to stare into the void waiting for you to hit that brick wall... or are you going to TRY to slow your vehicle down by applying the advice provided in that link, and that is to at least attempt to slow your vehicle down using the E-brake?

C'mon!!!
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Old 06-09-2015, 04:50 PM   #13997
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Subjective and that is your perspective. Did you bother to read the rest, or only what benefits your point?

But if you're ever in the highly unlikely but extremely serious situation of having your service brakes fail to function, try to stay calm and pull the emergency brake lever up slow and steady, bringing the vehicle to a longer but more controlled stop.

However, by all means... if you lose your 'service brakes', please proceed straight into that brick wall without any further attempt to slow your speed down using the EMERGENCY BRAKE. It'd benefit the gene pool, that's for sure...

And have a nice day, done with this.
Nothing against you personally, you just should be careful what you advise people to do. In a panic situation, maybe they'll remember that Spec mentioned pulling the handbrake will save me because I put myself in a situation where I can't stop or avoid an accident quickly enough. They pull the hand brake and instead of rear ending the traffic in front of them, they start fishtailing and slide into a daycare killing a bunch of kids.
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That is not what is being talked about here. You've lost your brakes, pedal hits the floor... you're just going to stare into the void waiting for you to hit that brick wall... or are you going to TRY to slow your vehicle down by applying the advice provided in that link, and that is to at least attempt to slow your vehicle down using the E-brake?

C'mon!!!
If the pedal stops working, then yes. Otherwise, absolutely not.
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I will advise this any day of the week;

But if you're ever in the highly unlikely but extremely serious situation of having your service brakes fail to function, try to stay calm and pull the emergency brake lever up slow and steady, bringing the vehicle to a longer but more controlled stop.
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I will advise this any day of the week;

But if you're ever in the highly unlikely but extremely serious situation of having your service brakes fail to function, try to stay calm and pull the emergency brake lever up slow and steady, bringing the vehicle to a longer but more controlled stop.
That's exactly what I was taught to do. Do they not teach these things in drivers Ed any more on what to do when things go wrong?
Probably if people knew how to handle a car without panicking when something quits working then even the ignition switch issue would not have resulted in lost lives.
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