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Old 06-07-2015, 09:58 AM   #29
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I thought that icon meant snakes chasing car.
LMAO me too I've been punching it at every light trying to escape them!!!

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Old 06-07-2015, 09:59 AM   #30
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Reporting back.....steering is tighter!

never new that
Me either will test later today thx...
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Old 06-07-2015, 11:05 AM   #31
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I realize that, but if you had very limited Stabilitrack (i.e. limited but still "ON") why would you have the "Stabilitrack Off" icon light up ? If the Stabilitrack were doing something you would not have the "Stabilitrack Off" light up for no reason would you? Space be dammed, you would just leave it unlit, because it is not off.

Having said all that, I am not saying you are wrong or right, It just does not make any sense to me.

Couldn't Competition Mode mean the Nannies are all the way off? It makes a little sense...if you are going to be in a competition it would be reasonable to not want the nannies to get in the way.
I should not have to go get in my car and go get it sideways to see if Stabilitrack is really all the way off or not when it says that it is indeed off. frustrating...
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yeah I suppose it could have been designed a bit more clearly, but its all spelled out in the owner manual pretty well. I think Al Oppenheiser did a video explaining the different modes too. I guess if the icon bothers ya that bad, you could put electrical tape over the bulb

As for "Having" to go play with your car in a parking lot? Haha, I've never felt like that was a chore really.
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Old 06-07-2015, 11:12 AM   #32
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It would be nice, for those posting an image of the chart, to have them state which specific model it's for.


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Old 06-07-2015, 01:27 PM   #33
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No need for launch control in an automatic. It's an automatic, it does it for you. Slipping the clutch is the tricky part.
Yeah at the track I foot brake it, I'll hold the brake and bring it up to 2k RPMs then pop off he brake and quickly ease into the throttle.
Still looking for a better 60ft though. I was also concerned this might cause damage to the drive line over time.
Thought if there were launch control it might be safer.

Regarding the nannies, here is something that's been bothering me. I owned a 99 Z28 M6 that car felt like it was giving me all the power it had with the traction control off. My L99 even with everything switched completely off still feels like it's holding power back in first gear compared to my 99 LS1 Z28. The chassis handling and braking are worlds better on the 5th gen but imo it feels a little too civilized at times, too much of the muscle car rawness of the 4th gen is gone.
The car should be a little louder and have more punch in first gear in its stock form.

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Old 06-07-2015, 06:49 PM   #34
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..... My L99 even with everything switched completely off still feels like it's holding power back in first gear compared to my 99 LS1 Z28. The chassis handling and braking are worlds better on the 5th gen but imo it feels a little too civilized at times, too much of the muscle car rawness of the 4th gen is gone.
The car should be a little louder and have more punch in first gear in its stock form.

That's where the Vitesse Throttle controller shines. It seems like GM programmed the computer to open the throttle kind of slow no matter how fast you stomp on it. The VTC fixes that. It makes the L99 a whole new animal. Combined with a Range device, that will fix your problems.
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Old 06-07-2015, 09:19 PM   #35
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Regarding the nannies, here is something that's been bothering me. I owned a 99 Z28 M6 that car felt like it was giving me all the power it had with the traction control off. My L99 even with everything switched completely off still feels like it's holding power back in first gear compared to my 99 LS1 Z28. The chassis handling and braking are worlds better on the 5th gen but imo it feels a little too civilized at times, too much of the muscle car rawness of the 4th gen is gone.
The car should be a little louder and have more punch in first gear in its stock form.
That's Torque Management you're feeling, even with stabilitrak off it limits throttle at launch and through shifts to protect the transmission. I think your 99 probably had it to a certain extent too, but its much more severe in the newer higher power cars. Moreso in the automatic than the manual but its there in both. You can tune it out, but you'd better be prepared to spend some money building a stronger tranny if you do.
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Old 06-08-2015, 01:11 PM   #36
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Yeah at the track I foot brake it, I'll hold the brake and bring it up to 2k RPMs then pop off he brake and quickly ease into the throttle.
Still looking for a better 60ft though. I was also concerned this might cause damage to the drive line over time.
Thought if there were launch control it might be safer.

Regarding the nannies, here is something that's been bothering me. I owned a 99 Z28 M6 that car felt like it was giving me all the power it had with the traction control off. My L99 even with everything switched completely off still feels like it's holding power back in first gear compared to my 99 LS1 Z28. The chassis handling and braking are worlds better on the 5th gen but imo it feels a little too civilized at times, too much of the muscle car rawness of the 4th gen is gone.
The car should be a little louder and have more punch in first gear in its stock form.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the launch control attempts to control the clutch slippage. Since an automatic has no clutch, it doesn't need launch control. At that point, both cars have traction control and stabilitrak, making it equivalent.

At least that's how I understand it.

The 4th gens had a cable-driven throttle body. Cable drive RULES. Electronic throttle bodies retard the response on purpose to keep the power "in check." That's probably why you felt like the power was instantaneous in the '99. It WAS. It had nothing stopping it except the traction control system, which like you said, was OFF. In the 5th Gen, you'll never get that because the connection isn't mechanical. I HATE these electronic TB's. I think a mechanically driven throttle body would change all your complaints. But as a result, the car would be "harder" to drive.
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Old 06-08-2015, 01:30 PM   #37
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but the launch control attempts to control the clutch slippage.
I believe that launch control is where you can push in the clutch, floor the accelerator and the RPM will hold at like 4000. Then all you do is release the clutch. I think the only thing controlling clutch engagement is your foot at that point. This way you only have to worry about "working" one pedal (the clutch) to launch and you get to keep the throttle buried. I feel like leaving at 4 grand is just a good way to get a bunch of tire smoke but I dunno.
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Old 06-08-2015, 01:31 PM   #38
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I was on IMS last month at a Chevy event. We got backed up getting off the track and the drunk railbirds were yelling for some entertainment. A quick solution? Punch the button twice, rev to 4000, dump the clutch...a cloud of smoke and two beautiful black stripes on that perfectly smooth asphalt. I did get my wrist slapped by the IMS gestapo but it was worth it.
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Old 06-08-2015, 01:35 PM   #39
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I enjoy the resulting "wrecked my car" threads. So keep turning off those nannies.
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Old 06-08-2015, 03:53 PM   #40
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but the launch control attempts to control the clutch slippage. Since an automatic has no clutch, it doesn't need launch control. At that point, both cars have traction control and stabilitrak, making it equivalent.

At least that's how I understand it.

No its more about traction than clutch slippage, the computer holds the car at the optimum launch RPM's and uses stabilitrak to put as much power to the ground as possible with minimal wheel spin.
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Old 06-08-2015, 11:08 PM   #41
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No its more about traction than clutch slippage, the computer holds the car at the optimum launch RPM's and uses stabilitrak to put as much power to the ground as possible with minimal wheel spin.
Right...but it's at heart a clutch control mechanism. The reason why it isn't available on the L99 is because its programming is related to the clutch. No clutch, no need.
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Old 06-08-2015, 11:17 PM   #42
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Right...but it's at heart a clutch control mechanism. The reason why it isn't available on the L99 is because its programming is related to the clutch. No clutch, no need.
well you can't really over rev a automatic unless you're doing neutral drops. No reason to have the computer control RPMs for you.
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