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Old 08-24-2009, 06:49 PM   #15
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Drove a 2007 LS2 C6 w/ 4500 miles on it and....

















...I honestly wasn't impressed. Maybe my expectations were too high. The acceleration wasn't what I'd expected when I ran through 2nd and 3rd gear. Though I was able to break loose making a right turn from a standstill, I think that was more due to gravel since I never took the traction control off. The steering was a little heavier than I'm used to, but it did handle well once I got used to that. The clutch let out a little high on the pedal, but was very clean on let out. The shifter had a lot more movement to it than I'd thought it would though.

With the interior...while it had the HUD and Nav, the pushbutton start and all that stuff, the interior overall was nothing that a 40k car should have with its cheap flimsy plastic that rattled. The removable top creaked and made cracking noises as well.

The fit and finish on all the Camaro's I've seen in person was FAR superior to this Corvette (tech stuff aside).

So for those that have driven both...hows the acceleration and handling on the 2SS relative to a C6 LS2? Is it comparable on the butt dyno?
I think you are leaning more towards the Camaro which is a great choice within itslef
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Old 08-24-2009, 06:53 PM   #16
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Camaro because i'm more of a camaro guy then a vette guy
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Old 08-26-2009, 03:48 PM   #17
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Whoops!

Guys...there was something wrong with that 2007 that I drove. Because my fiance and I drove a 2008 today...by ourselves...and on a nice curvy road.

All I can say is holy crap! That car is a PERFORMER. The handling on those things is amazing, and the stability control I'm sure helped out with some of those corners. One thing I noticed was that the competition mode on that car didn't cap out at 4.5k revs like the Camaro SS does...was it not supposed to do that? Also...does anyone know what the maximum lateral acceleration is on the C6? I found it for the Z06, but I'm trying to find the C6 info and can't seem to pinpoint it.
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Old 08-26-2009, 05:14 PM   #18
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2007 and 2008 have DIFFERENT ENGINES like I said before.

2007 = LS2 6.0L (400 hp)
2008 = LS3 6.2L (430 hp)

Also was the 2008 a Z51?
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Old 08-26-2009, 05:43 PM   #19
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Yes--different engines--already knew that, but 30 HP isn't going to be a mindblowing difference. There was something seriously wrong with the other Vette.

I don't believe it was a Z51...the salesperson didn't mention it anyway.

Oddly enough though...the 0-60 and 1/4 miles times between the SS and the C6 aren't that far off from one another based on reviews:

SS 0-60 4.8 sec (4.6 sec if auto trans)
C6 0-60 4.5 sec

SS 1/4 mi 13 sec @ 111 mph
C6 1.4 mi 12.8 sec @ 114.8 mph

Close...even with the ~600 lb weight difference. So I don't believe I can go wrong either way. My fiance is talking about "what if we have kids in the future though?" stuff now...so still leaning moreso towards the Camaro given the differences are minuscule.

I'm prolly gonna wait until my Camaro comes in and drive it before signing off on it. If at that point I'm thinking Corvette, at least I'll have a real-world butt-in-seat comparison. I still believe the overall fit and finish of the Camaro exceeds the Corvette though.
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Old 08-26-2009, 05:52 PM   #20
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Oddly enough though...the 0-60 and 1/4 miles times between the SS and the C6 aren't that far off from one another based on reviews:

SS 0-60 4.8 sec (4.6 sec if auto trans)
C6 0-60 4.5 sec

SS 1/4 mi 13 sec @ 111 mph
C6 1.4 mi 12.8 sec @ 114.8 mph

Close...even with the ~600 lb weight difference.
You can use those numbers if it makes you feel better...
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Old 08-26-2009, 06:11 PM   #21
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30 hp peak power but they are different engines and will have different area under the power curve.

A C6 LS3 with Z51 should perform very much on par with a C5 Z06. There are a lot of videos out there of these two running, the C5 Z06 usually edges it by a very slim margin if both drivers are competent. It is really a driver's race.
Here are some videos of what a C5 Z06 will do stock on the hands of a competent driver.
http://www.rangeracceleration.com/Driver_Cred.html

11.81 117.26 Bone Stock on Stock Tires.

11.55 117.69 Bone Stock except a
Cold-Air Intake and Drag Radial Tires. Record

11.52 120.21 Bone Stock except a
Cold-Air Intake and Drag Radial Tires. Record

Unfortunately he does not have C6 1/4 passes but you can get an idea compared to a C5Z. I would never go by magazine times.
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Anyway it sounds like you are really excited about the Camaro. Nothing wrong with that. Good luck.
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Old 08-26-2009, 06:25 PM   #23
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You can use those numbers if it makes you feel better...
Seems about right for an LS2 C6 so I don't get your comment, are you trying to be funny?
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Old 08-26-2009, 06:25 PM   #24
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So I've got my Camaro on order, but started looking around at Corvettes just for shits and giggles due to those "Corvette vs Camaro" threads that I've seen lately.

I found on a local craigslist ad (LINK) what seems like a nice Vette.

Its a 2007 and loaded but without Nav. I started to think about it only because the 10-day payoff is $39,592.89...and I know that Vette's retain their value very very well. I also feel very bad for the guy since he lost his job.

We're all Chevy folks here...if the backseat wasn't an issue, what would you do?

08+ LS3 vette, buy the vette unless you need a backseat. The LS2 07 Vette, I would rather have the LS3 Camaro...IMHO
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Whoops!

Guys...there was something wrong with that 2007 that I drove. Because my fiance and I drove a 2008 today...by ourselves...and on a nice curvy road.

All I can say is holy crap! That car is a PERFORMER. The handling on those things is amazing, and the stability control I'm sure helped out with some of those corners. One thing I noticed was that the competition mode on that car didn't cap out at 4.5k revs like the Camaro SS does...was it not supposed to do that? Also...does anyone know what the maximum lateral acceleration is on the C6? I found it for the Z06, but I'm trying to find the C6 info and can't seem to pinpoint it.
What is this all about? Does the Camaro really do this? I have not broken it in yet so haven't had it in COMP mode nor have I surpassed 4000 RPM. If it does cap out at 4500 is it only in comp mode? Well scratch that, I know it doesnt always do it b/c I have hit 5000 once or twice.
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if you can go with the vette!!
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Old 08-26-2009, 08:46 PM   #27
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You can use those numbers if it makes you feel better...
I will. Not because they make me feel better, but because they're factual pieces of information using the same driver on both vehicles. I did research from a number of magazine test drives as well as edmunds, msn, etc and they're all right about there.

Now if you're implying that those numbers are off, they could be. Some drivers are better than others, but those are pretty spot on give or take a tenth of a second or two.

Here's a couple sources:

Edmunds Inside Line (Corvette)

Edmunds Inside Line (Camaro)

Regardless of whether the times are different from 1 magazine to the next, the thing I'm looking for is the comparison using the same source--which is more reliable than using time from source A on car 1 and time from source B on car 2. For example the 0-60 time for the Camaro from Inside line was 5 seconds, whereas over at Motortrend it was 4.7. The 1/4 mile times were slightly different as well...13 vs 13.10 for the Camaro respectively. Again...all the various magazines and testers are round about in the same area. So my numbers are realistic.
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What is this all about? Does the Camaro really do this? I have not broken it in yet so haven't had it in COMP mode nor have I surpassed 4000 RPM. If it does cap out at 4500 is it only in comp mode? Well scratch that, I know it doesnt always do it b/c I have hit 5000 once or twice.
Well, if I'm not mistaken its 4500, could be 4000. But man...that's all over this website!!!

Check the owners manual, its in there.
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