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domchevelle · 07-06-2015, 08:56 PM

Hello i'm from Montréal, Québec. I bought a 2010 2SS camaro last fall. I tried my car in dragway and my best time was : 13.44 at 109.29 mph. At this time my car was stock power train.
This winter, i installed a edelbrook e force. I ran my car for a couples miles and everthing was good.
Last week, i tried my new set-up and my best time was : 13.27 at 108.89 mph with all the same power train except the eforce and the ls9 cams.
Wath is the problem ???

Today i verified the pressure (psi) = 7 psi
Do you think it could be the competition mode ??

Thank's
Dominic Gladu

bayarea408 · 07-06-2015, 09:26 PM

you need to give us a time slip to really gauge how your taking off and what it looks like.

Your car is trapping less then what your stock car is trapping. Does the car feel drastically faster? It surely should...

list your mods and what type of power did the setup make?

Are you automatic or are you manual?

somethings wrong if you strap on a blower and cam and you end up with a slower trap speed. that doesnt make any sense.

realcanuk · 07-06-2015, 09:31 PM

There are so many possibilities. Was the car tuned ? If you need someone good to look at it in Montreal, message me and I will help you out.

Meanwhile, list more details to get some suggestions...

Reelgrinder · 07-06-2015, 09:32 PM

Probably traction.. what are your dyno numbers?

realcanuk · 07-06-2015, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Reelgrinder

Probably traction.. what are your dyno numbers?

Traction would hurt times, but not lower the trap speed like that. Something else at play there.

domchevelle · 07-06-2015, 09:48 PM

Thank,s for you reply.

my cars are all stock exept :Eforce and LS9 camshaft.
6 speeds and stock gear (3:42) and PZero tire ,
the tune are From SCT (Edelbrock)
i take picture of my time slip but i dont know how to put them here :(

bayarea408 · 07-06-2015, 10:10 PM

SCT? get yourself a REAL tuner with a REAL tune.

domchevelle · 07-06-2015, 10:13 PM

What is the best tuner for my ,to day i looking for EFIlive ,it is good ?

realcanuk · 07-06-2015, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by domchevelle

What is the best tuner for my ,to day i looking for EFIlive ,it is good ?

I tune my car with hptuners..... but it is a personal preference. EFI live is good too.

LSXBumblebee · 07-06-2015, 10:15 PM

Find a shop that can tune. Also, how much HP do you have? Where is your timeslip? E-Force stock is around 500whp, maybe you need bigger injectors, and ZL1 pump. There are a lot of things that could help. Dyno numbers can really help us see what's going on too.

Unreal · 07-06-2015, 10:24 PM

Either way, should have picked up 100rwhp over stock. Tune/etc will help, but that isn't the problem.

I also say traction. 500rwhp and pzeros isn't going anywhere fast.

forklord · 07-06-2015, 10:24 PM

That cam wont do much for ya really. The canned tune is extremely conservative. But you should be getting a better trap speed like the guys said regardless. Is it running ok?? Maybe theres an issue with the intercooler locked up and getting major heatsoak? Vacuum/air leak? Youd probly throw a code tho...just throwing stuff out there.

forklord · 07-06-2015, 10:25 PM

In saying that ive never had an issue with my coolant flowing after flushing the system 4 times when i had an eforce.

I have a rotofab intake made for the eforce too of youre interested. Give you a great deal since youre in canada too.

robsbandit · 07-07-2015, 12:56 AM

I'm interested as well and trying to sort out a similar situation. I have the Magnuson Heartbeat supercharger and I am at 530whp in a '14 1LE. My trap speed was pretty consistent at 113mph with 8 runs. Air temp was about 75deg and the track is at about 1,200ft above sea level. I was a bit disappointed and felt it should have been faster. My solution is 1-7/8" headers, a smaller pulley and a new tune from a better tuner. Lol!

07-06-2015, 08:56 PM	#1
domchevelle Drives: 2010 camaro 2SS Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Québec Posts: 9	E Force problem ? Hello i'm from Montréal, Québec. I bought a 2010 2SS camaro last fall. I tried my car in dragway and my best time was : 13.44 at 109.29 mph. At this time my car was stock power train. This winter, i installed a edelbrook e force. I ran my car for a couples miles and everthing was good. Last week, i tried my new set-up and my best time was : 13.27 at 108.89 mph with all the same power train except the eforce and the ls9 cams. Wath is the problem ??? Today i verified the pressure (psi) = 7 psi Do you think it could be the competition mode ?? Thank's Dominic Gladu

07-06-2015, 09:31 PM	#3
realcanuk Drives: 2007 Corvette C6 983 RWHP Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Montreal, Canada Posts: 690	There are so many possibilities. Was the car tuned ? If you need someone good to look at it in Montreal, message me and I will help you out. Meanwhile, list more details to get some suggestions... __________________ 2007 C6 vert, auto, F55, LT3 LME LS402 , WCCH 245 Heads, Pat G. Custom cam YSI / 3.0 pulley, ARH 1 7/8 headers, NPP Dewitts / dual spals, A&A dual pump fuel system. 3.42 polished gears, hardened shafts, Alky control meth, Cartech line lock, ECS axle loops, Trans brace, 6L80 built by me. ID 1000 injectors, comp rockers, Morel lifters, BT springs, Trend 3/8 pushrods, ATI 10% OD Damper Circle D Triple Disc stall 1009 RWHP @ 7000, 817 RWTQ @ 6000,

07-06-2015, 09:32 PM	#4
Reelgrinder Drives: 2016 SS Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: DFW Posts: 228	Probably traction.. what are your dyno numbers? __________________ 2016 SS with Eforce 2300 Borla Headers Borla Atak

07-06-2015, 10:15 PM	#10
LSXBumblebee LSX Bumblebee Drives: 2014 LSX Camaro Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: United States Posts: 434 View My Garage	Find a shop that can tune. Also, how much HP do you have? Where is your timeslip? E-Force stock is around 500whp, maybe you need bigger injectors, and ZL1 pump. There are a lot of things that could help. Dyno numbers can really help us see what's going on too. __________________ LSX 427 \| ZL1 Driveline \| LSA Blower \| Stage 3 BTR PD Cam \| 85 lb. Injectors \| ZL1 Pump \| ADM FPCM \| Pulley LSX Bowtie Block Blueprinted by Gilroy Automotive Machine \| Assembled by LSXBumblebee/Arnold Crocker Build Thread: LSX_Bumblebee's 2014 LSX Camaro 2SS/RS Convertible

07-06-2015, 10:24 PM	#11
Unreal Drives: 2006 Z06 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Gilbert, AZ Posts: 5,712	Either way, should have picked up 100rwhp over stock. Tune/etc will help, but that isn't the problem. I also say traction. 500rwhp and pzeros isn't going anywhere fast. __________________ Nick Corvette Z06 -1200ish rwhp

07-06-2015, 09:26 PM	#2
bayarea408 Drives: T Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: CA Posts: 805	you need to give us a time slip to really gauge how your taking off and what it looks like. Your car is trapping less then what your stock car is trapping. Does the car feel drastically faster? It surely should... list your mods and what type of power did the setup make? Are you automatic or are you manual? somethings wrong if you strap on a blower and cam and you end up with a slower trap speed. that doesnt make any sense.

07-06-2015, 09:48 PM	#6
domchevelle Drives: 2010 camaro 2SS Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Québec Posts: 9	Thank,s for you reply. my cars are all stock exept :Eforce and LS9 camshaft. 6 speeds and stock gear (3:42) and PZero tire , the tune are From SCT (Edelbrock) i take picture of my time slip but i dont know how to put them here :(

07-06-2015, 10:10 PM	#7
bayarea408 Drives: T Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: CA Posts: 805	SCT? get yourself a REAL tuner with a REAL tune.

07-06-2015, 10:13 PM	#8
domchevelle Drives: 2010 camaro 2SS Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Québec Posts: 9	What is the best tuner for my ,to day i looking for EFIlive ,it is good ?

07-06-2015, 10:24 PM	#12
forklord Drives: 2010 2SS Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Canada Posts: 800	That cam wont do much for ya really. The canned tune is extremely conservative. But you should be getting a better trap speed like the guys said regardless. Is it running ok?? Maybe theres an issue with the intercooler locked up and getting major heatsoak? Vacuum/air leak? Youd probly throw a code tho...just throwing stuff out there. __________________ 2010 2SS- 562whp/634wtq 12 psi on3 turbo 78mm magnum /w aem truboost, pat g cam, Kooks 3" catback, Factory Rep 41s with 285/315 20" michelin PSS, Snow Meth, Hex Hood Vents, ZL1 FP & ADM FPCM /w JMS BAP, ID 850s, DSS lvl 4 axles & aluminum 1 piece D/S, Total Pro BMR bushings, fe4 sways, toe rods & trailing arms, Prothane engine mounts, MGW shifter, eaton true trac, mantic 9000 clutch, idealg master cylinder, JDP clutch oil reservoir, ram clutch pedal adjust, Tick clutch & bleed lines, Dewitts Rad

07-06-2015, 10:25 PM	#13
forklord Drives: 2010 2SS Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Canada Posts: 800	In saying that ive never had an issue with my coolant flowing after flushing the system 4 times when i had an eforce. I have a rotofab intake made for the eforce too of youre interested. Give you a great deal since youre in canada too. __________________ 2010 2SS- 562whp/634wtq 12 psi on3 turbo 78mm magnum /w aem truboost, pat g cam, Kooks 3" catback, Factory Rep 41s with 285/315 20" michelin PSS, Snow Meth, Hex Hood Vents, ZL1 FP & ADM FPCM /w JMS BAP, ID 850s, DSS lvl 4 axles & aluminum 1 piece D/S, Total Pro BMR bushings, fe4 sways, toe rods & trailing arms, Prothane engine mounts, MGW shifter, eaton true trac, mantic 9000 clutch, idealg master cylinder, JDP clutch oil reservoir, ram clutch pedal adjust, Tick clutch & bleed lines, Dewitts Rad

07-07-2015, 12:56 AM	#14
robsbandit Drives: '14 Camaro 1LE and '67 Camaro Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Minnesota Posts: 75 View My Garage	I'm interested as well and trying to sort out a similar situation. I have the Magnuson Heartbeat supercharger and I am at 530whp in a '14 1LE. My trap speed was pretty consistent at 113mph with 8 runs. Air temp was about 75deg and the track is at about 1,200ft above sea level. I was a bit disappointed and felt it should have been faster. My solution is 1-7/8" headers, a smaller pulley and a new tune from a better tuner. Lol!