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VTSummit · 08-07-2015, 08:34 AM

The only time a tune comes into question is when people go way aggressive, don't know what they are doing- run the lean and detonate the shit out of them.

yescats · 08-07-2015, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by VTSummit

How can a dealer end up in a lawsuit over a car with a tune and warranty being denied? Won't happen. GM provides warranty, not a dealer.

The dealer could be held severally liable and would be listed a co-defendant for sure if I were suing. It would also preclude them from being a non-hostile witness. The dealer is by no means a disinterested party.

VTSummit · 08-07-2015, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by yescats

The dealer could be held severally liable and would be listed a co-defendant for sure if I were suing. It would also preclude them from being a non-hostile witness. The dealer is by no means a disinterested party.

Re-read the warranty. You can sue anyone you want, but the warranty is pretty clear. It can backfire though- someone tried it over an Audi that he tuned himself and my testimony destroyed him in court.
Best advice is to form a relationship with your dealer- they can be your best ally in a case like that. Not all dealerships are evil. The ones who are honest about what they did to the car are always the best ones to deal with. Every one of 'em who goes the legal route usually started off on a bad foot with not being honest and letting us help him. Just because they don't like the result of having to pay for what they broke often leads to the whole 'mountain out of a mole hill" thing.

yescats · 08-07-2015, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by VTSummit

Re-read the warranty. You can sue anyone you want, but the warranty is pretty clear. It can backfire though- someone tried it over an Audi that he tuned himself and my testimony destroyed him in court.
Best advice is to form a relationship with your dealer- they can be your best ally in a case like that. Not all dealerships are evil. The ones who are honest about what they did to the car are always the best ones to deal with. Every one of 'em who goes the legal route usually started off on a bad foot with not being honest and letting us help him. Just because they don't like the result of having to pay for what they broke often leads to the whole 'mountain out of a mole hill" thing.

Who do you work for?

VTSummit · 08-07-2015, 07:06 PM

fixed ops director at a chevy dealer now- I've done consulting work for many companies including Land Rover, Audi, VW etc.

1Canuck · 08-07-2015, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by VTSummit

The only time a tune comes into question is when people go way aggressive, don't know what they are doing- run the lean and detonate the shit out of them.

sums it up.

yescats · 08-07-2015, 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by VTSummit

The only time a tune comes into question is when people go way aggressive, don't know what they are doing- run the lean and detonate the shit out of them.

Why would someone choose to run over-lean? Is it to save on gas or does it have something to do with creating more HP. Sorry if it's a dumb question.

VTSummit · 08-08-2015, 10:26 AM

Going lean is easy to do and VERY destructive. Going too rich won't send you in to a shop for a new engine. If you port the heads, intake etc and increase airflow and not fuel- bad things can happen.

Scott@Bjorn3D · 08-08-2015, 11:15 AM

No such thing as an untraceable tune. My dealership calls me in to help their tech see them all the time. Diablo is a joke if you believe them.

VTSummit · 08-08-2015, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Scott@Bjorn3D

No such thing as an untraceable tune. My dealership calls me in to help their tech see them all the time. Diablo is a joke if you believe them.

This man speaketh the truth. We may have to send data to be looked at, but they'll see it.

yescats · 08-09-2015, 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Scott@Bjorn3D

No such thing as an untraceable tune. My dealership calls me in to help their tech see them all the time. Diablo is a joke if you believe them.

What is it that you see? The count or the previous tune?

08-07-2015, 08:34 AM	#43
VTSummit Consistently inconsistent Drives: 2015 2LT Summit White Join Date: May 2015 Location: United States Posts: 1,363	The only time a tune comes into question is when people go way aggressive, don't know what they are doing- run the lean and detonate the shit out of them. __________________ Thanks to MRR, I have some SWEET wheels! Thank you! 2015 2LT Ported TB, Ported intake, JACFAB intake spacer, Borla exhaust, IPF 91 tune, Complete 1/LE suspension, Brembo brakes, Goodridge lines, Elite catch can, CAI with Thermo-wrap, 275/40-20 x 10's all around, Z/28 spoiler, GM splitter, Alpine/Polk stereo with AudiControl interface.

08-07-2015, 07:06 PM	#47
VTSummit Consistently inconsistent Drives: 2015 2LT Summit White Join Date: May 2015 Location: United States Posts: 1,363	fixed ops director at a chevy dealer now- I've done consulting work for many companies including Land Rover, Audi, VW etc. __________________ Thanks to MRR, I have some SWEET wheels! Thank you! 2015 2LT Ported TB, Ported intake, JACFAB intake spacer, Borla exhaust, IPF 91 tune, Complete 1/LE suspension, Brembo brakes, Goodridge lines, Elite catch can, CAI with Thermo-wrap, 275/40-20 x 10's all around, Z/28 spoiler, GM splitter, Alpine/Polk stereo with AudiControl interface.

08-08-2015, 10:26 AM	#50
VTSummit Consistently inconsistent Drives: 2015 2LT Summit White Join Date: May 2015 Location: United States Posts: 1,363	Going lean is easy to do and VERY destructive. Going too rich won't send you in to a shop for a new engine. If you port the heads, intake etc and increase airflow and not fuel- bad things can happen. __________________ Thanks to MRR, I have some SWEET wheels! Thank you! 2015 2LT Ported TB, Ported intake, JACFAB intake spacer, Borla exhaust, IPF 91 tune, Complete 1/LE suspension, Brembo brakes, Goodridge lines, Elite catch can, CAI with Thermo-wrap, 275/40-20 x 10's all around, Z/28 spoiler, GM splitter, Alpine/Polk stereo with AudiControl interface.

08-08-2015, 11:15 AM	#51
Scott@Bjorn3D Drives: Kami, 2013 2SS LS3 Luvin Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Eufaula, Alabama Posts: 6,427	No such thing as an untraceable tune. My dealership calls me in to help their tech see them all the time. Diablo is a joke if you believe them.