5 Second 0-60

[rrang]

My goal is simple I want my 2011 camaro LT/RS to be 5 second 0-60. What would be the easiest way to get their with bolt ons, i.e. no turbos, superchargers, or anything like that. I can work with about 2 grand so keep that in mind.
Here is what i was thinking:
Long Tube Headers
Cat-Back (with x-pipe) (which kit is best?)
Cold Air intake (which brand is best?)
VMAX ICEOLATOR
Vitesse Throttle Controller

I have also seen threads stating that programmers are useless and that if your going to waste time with a tune to get a custom one on a dyno is this true or are their programmers that are worth a damn

I don't think this will reach the 5 second mark will it? I am in Southern California @4,000 feet in elevation at my house and maybe 1000 at work if anyone wants to take that into account.

[Evil-Bee-NH]

Originally Posted by rrang

My goal is simple I want my 2011 camaro LT/RS to be 5 second 0-60. What would be the easiest way to get their with bolt ons, i.e. no turbos, superchargers, or anything like that. I can work with about 2 grand so keep that in mind.
Here is what i was thinking:
Long Tube Headers
Cat-Back (with x-pipe) (which kit is best?)
Cold Air intake (which brand is best?)
VMAX ICEOLATOR
Vitesse Throttle Controller

I have also seen threads stating that programmers are useless and that if your going to waste time with a tune to get a custom one on a dyno is this true or are their programmers that are worth a damn

I don't think this will reach the 5 second mark will it? I am in Southern California @4,000 feet in elevation at my house and maybe 1000 at work if anyone wants to take that into account.

Meh your budget is whats in your way for that goal. LT's will cost you anywhere from 300-1,000+ depending on the brand i'd suggest one with hi flows included for the extra HP/TQ.

Most Cat Backs are expensive and everyone has their preference. I've still yet to see a decent comparison to all the cat backs available to a V6 camaro. You usually only see a comparison of 2 or 3 major brands. You'll get minimal performance from these honestly mostly sound. but the weight loss replacing the stock suitcases isn't a bad thing.

Cold Air Intakes let's see you'll hear CAI Inc. from 70% of people 10% Injen and the rest is a mix. On the V6 they are all actually fairly decent Roto-Fab/Vararam/Airaid the only one i've heard issues from is the K&N with CEL's. Running the Roto-Fab myself and i like it it's very basic and does a great job.

Your last two throttle controller and iceolator are a good starting point also tires and wheels may help depending on wether your intending to keep it a daily driver and drive in weather.


As for programmers your perception thus far is a little warranted but not entirely. Please no one flame me i don't even have a tune on my car yet just going from what i've heard and read over the years on here. You will always get better results from a custom dyno tune because it's being customized to how your car runs not from a base understanding like the mail orders or handhelds. However with the 2011 you get the Bosch ECU bitch slap from GM. I've yet to hear concrete HP Tuners information just alot of testing and re-testing on here. Trifecta is basically done exclusively through bad news racing these days not neccasarily a bad thing to have a company do the leg work with trifecta. Your only other real option is the IPF Tune which from everything i've heard is rock solid. That being said IPF Tunes will not generally cause anything on your car to break those guys know your car better then you do probably and you may run into issues with a dyno tune causing excessive wear on components because simply put unlike an IPF or other Mail/Handheld tunes theirs no safety measures taken into consideration on how you drive your car with a dyno tune installed.

I really do wish you the best of luck i think you are headed in the right direction and i'd start with the Iceolator, VTC and CAI and work your way into LT's, Hi Flows and Cat Backs as you go.

[MagnumForceGB]

Gears and if it an Auto, a very high stall torque converter. These engines make power at high RPM, get it there fast and keep it there. LFX intake manifold will do a better job than the ice-olator ever will, but more expensive.

Tune wise, the Bosch requires a huge learning curve to tune correctly. The best tuners for the Bosch ECU for the LNF engines were regular forum members that kept tinkering on their own car, learning the ins-and-out of the ECU. They are now helping LT1 tuners understand the benefits of Direct Injection now.

[KMPrenger]

4,000 feet at your house? Dang....you'll never see 5 seconds there! lol. Joking....sort of.


My opinion....if you wan the car to be a consistent 5 second or less car...well that's not going to be easy or cheap.

If you are ok with it being a consisten 5.xx second car (say mid 5s, more or less) well that's more doable.

Leaving out gears, or tires/suspension I'd recommend:

- Injen/CAI brand/Vararam intake
- Manifold spacer, such as Black Ice or MACE
- IPF tune (unless you can find a local tuner that actually has experience tuning the LLT. if they don't have experience, its a no go)
- If you don't want to tune, then try the throttle controller, but I'm not sure I completely trust that thing.

That alone should get you into the 5s on a good launch.

Past that:
- headers/exhaust. Headers will add power. Mufflers won't really.
- Consider sticker street tires....Nittos?

To be a consistently easy low 5 or sub-5 second car I think you'll need gears (which will basically require a whole new rear end if you are auto) or perhaps a stall. You could go with a shorter tire/wheel setup, which would simulate lower gears without actually doing them.

To give you an idea on my LLT. I had most bolt ons, but no tire/gear/suspension mods and my testing usually resulted in mid to high 5s.

[rrang]

Honestly I might just buy a V8, my car is paid for and i figure i can get 15-20k for it, im leaning towards a 2016 2SS. Get my work to pay for the difference because it will be a "sales vehicle"

[rtcat600man]

Originally Posted by rrang

Honestly I might just buy a V8, my car is paid for and i figure i can get 15-20k for it, im leaning towards a 2016 2SS. Get my work to pay for the difference because it will be a "sales vehicle"

That would be a GREAT move. Get the performance without the mods. Cost you nothing, and you have a "NEW" ride under warrenty again. ....

[Gee]

Originally Posted by rrang

Honestly I might just buy a V8, my car is paid for and i figure i can get 15-20k for it, im leaning towards a 2016 2SS. Get my work to pay for the difference because it will be a "sales vehicle"

This is a great idea. You cant go wrong.

[Bodywerks]

Originally Posted by rrang

Honestly I might just buy a V8, my car is paid for and i figure i can get 15-20k for it, im leaning towards a 2016 2SS. Get my work to pay for the difference because it will be a "sales vehicle"

This. Suping up a v6 is like titts on a bull...

[GretchenGotGrowl]

Originally Posted by Bodywerks

This. Suping up a v6 is like titts on a bull...

Modern V6s are much different than the ones most people remember. When they can handle 650 RWHP by only changing rods and piston, there is definitely a lot of potential.

[KMPrenger]

Nothing wrong with deciding to just save up for a V8!

Originally Posted by Bodywerks

This. Suping up a v6 is like titts on a bull...

Disagree. Nothing wrong with modding a V6, especially modern ones. you just have to set expectations. I modded mine and loved it. Sure, it didn't have V8 HP, but it still pulled great, had great throttle response, and made me happy every time I drove it.

The new 6th gen V6 should be a great platform to begin with being much lighter and more nimble than the 5th gen. Starting with 335 HP, bolt ons a tune should yield an easy 350 - 360 HP. With that kind of HP, and the weight, they will have an equal or slightly better HP to weight ratio than the current SS automatic. That's something to think about.

Originally Posted by GretchenGotGrowl

Modern V6s are much different than the ones most people remember. When they can handle 650 RWHP by only changing rods and piston, there is definitely a lot of potential.

Right on.

[Aequitas & Veritas]

Originally Posted by rrang

Honestly I might just buy a V8, my car is paid for and i figure i can get 15-20k for it, im leaning towards a 2016 2SS. Get my work to pay for the difference because it will be a "sales vehicle"

Always a good option, the mod bug will be there too but that is always a good thing!

Originally Posted by Bodywerks

This. Suping up a v6 is like titts on a bull...

I disagree. I own two V6 vehicles a Camaro and a GTR. Performance wise extremely different but I love both.

Modding a car, is about the journey and what you get out of it. As long as you have fun along the way and enjoy the car it's all good.

Originally Posted by GretchenGotGrowl

Modern V6s are much different than the ones most people remember. When they can handle 650 RWHP by only changing rods and piston, there is definitely a lot of potential.

Originally Posted by KMPrenger

Disagree. Nothing wrong with modding a V6, especially modern ones. you just have to set expectations. I modded mine and loved it. Sure, it didn't have V8 HP, but it still pulled great, had great throttle response, and made me happy every time I drove it.

And to the OP whatever makes you look back at the car when you walk away from it, be it a modded V6 or a new SS, you know you made the right decision.

[rtcat600man]

Originally Posted by Bodywerks

This. Suping up a v6 is like titts on a bull...

and what's wrong with a tits on a bull..........best of both worlds. I have enjoyed every minute of my suping up a V6.

Originally Posted by GretchenGotGrowl

Modern V6s are much different than the ones most people remember. When they can handle 650 RWHP by only changing rods and piston, there is definitely a lot of potential.

Originally Posted by KMPrenger

Nothing wrong with deciding to just save up for a V8!



Disagree. Nothing wrong with modding a V6, especially modern ones. you just have to set expectations. I modded mine and loved it. Sure, it didn't have V8 HP, but it still pulled great, had great throttle response, and made me happy every time I drove it.

The new 6th gen V6 should be a great platform to begin with being much lighter and more nimble than the 5th gen. Starting with 335 HP, bolt ons a tune should yield an easy 350 - 360 HP. With that kind of HP, and the weight, they will have an equal or slightly better HP to weight ratio than the current SS automatic. That's something to think about.



Right on.

Originally Posted by Aequitas & Veritas

Always a good option, the mod bug will be there too but that is always a good thing!



I disagree. I own two V6 vehicles a Camaro and a GTR. Performance wise extremely different but I love both.

Modding a car, is about the journey and what you get out of it. As long as you have fun along the way and enjoy the car it's all good.









And to the OP whatever makes you look back at the car when you walk away from it, be it a modded V6 or a new SS, you know you made the right decision.

[Tajefe Couple]

Originally Posted by rtcat600man

and what's wrong with a tits on a bull..........best of both worlds. I have enjoyed every minute of my suping up a V6.

I have a GTO with the LS2, a couple of Trans ams, and a couple other V8 cars. Have also owned over 100+ other V8 cars and I'm having a blast playing with my V6 Camaro. Purchased the V6 because I didn't have much experience with smaller engines and wanted a new toy and new experience. Defiantly makes my top 10 funnest car to mod and play with. We call it my Lego car since I'm always putting something plug and play on it or changing it up. They just made it to easy to swap things around on these Camaros and everything just seems to click in place like Lego's.
Such a blast Love it!

[JMT]

I will pass along what I did. Cold Air Inductions CAI, IPF tune, and 3.91 gears. I have a manual so the gear change was easy. Tuned for 93.