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Camaro_Mike · 09-23-2015, 01:01 AM

So the low oil pressure display popped up on dash yesterday. I had just drove the car about 12 miles, and parked it for about an hour. As soon as I start the car back up the low oil pressure light turns on. It tells me to shut the car off so I turn it off. I then turn the car back again for a couple of seconds, message comes up again. Tried it one more time with the hood open to listen for ticking. My engine makes noise all the time so I really didn't know what to pay attention to. I did hear some ticking, but it was not loud at all and it was barley noticeable, it sounded pretty normal to me. Im pretty sure it is the oil pump, or possibly an sensor. My car is an 2011 LS3 w/42k miles, no engine mods and NO WARRANTY. It just ran out a couple of months ago.

-Is there anyway to troubleshoot to find out if the sensor is the issue WITHOUT turning the car on?

-Should I expect the dealership to replace my engine if there is damage done since oil pumps on most chevy v8's are known to fail?

-What actually is damaged when an engine breaks due to low oil pressure?

-Could I just replace the heads or block IF there is engine damage or do I have to replace the entire engine?

Avenging Orange · 09-23-2015, 02:50 AM

This may be a dumb question...but you didn't mention it. Have you checked the oil level?

Caswell239 · 09-23-2015, 02:51 AM

Check oil level? The block has two plugs on the oil gallery on driver side, can thread an adapter in there with a mechanical oil pressure gauge and test. That will tell you what is it, pump or sensor. Believe it's m16x1.5 threads. You would still need to start the car. Only long enough to compare the gauges.

Do not expect Chevy to replace anything since your out of warranty.

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Camaro_Mike · 09-23-2015, 02:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Avenging Orange

This may be a dumb question...but you didn't mention it. Have you checked the oil level?

I checked the oil level on the dash. It was at 68%.

Caswell239 · 09-23-2015, 02:55 AM

No, that the oil life not the oil level. You need to go pull the dipstick under the hood

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MrChrisLS3 · 09-23-2015, 03:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Avenging Orange

This may be a dumb question...but you didn't mention it. Have you checked the oil level?

Oil level won't tell much if the pump is out. I would also think that if it were low enough on oil to cause low pressure, the low oil level light would trigger as well. (I believe there's one on these cars)

TheHorse13 · 09-23-2015, 10:32 AM

The 2011 does not have an oil light.

If the pump failed, which by all accounts is most likely the problem, DO NOT run the motor. Running the motor without the pump working will make things far worse.

You have to tow the car to a reputable shop.
You have to replace the pump. Go with the Melling, not the stock garbage pump.
It will be in the area of $1,000 to fix with labor and parts.
There are a million threads about this exact problem. Search the forums and every question you have on this will be answered.
Internal motor damage cannot be determined by the Internet. A mechanic is needed.

hunter1660 · 09-23-2015, 04:29 PM

Talk to your dealer. Maybe being prone to failure,they'll warranty some if not all the work. It won't cost you anything to ask. I wouldn't give up until someone as high as I could go up declined it. They know there's a problem... Good luck

Avenging Orange · 09-23-2015, 04:58 PM

Lets just eliminated the obvious (no matter how dumb it may sound ) and for shits n giggles, have the OP check his oil level via the dip stick. Humor me.

gr8daneh · 09-23-2015, 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Avenging Orange

Lets just eliminated the obvious (no matter how dumb it may sound ) and for shits n giggles, have the OP check his oil level via the dip stick. Humor me.

right?! Gotta start somewhere and that doesn't cost a dime...

shibbs · 09-23-2015, 05:39 PM

Powertrain warranty is 5 years, 100,000 miles.

How do you have no warranty if you've done no mods? When did they release the 2011s?

rberns · 09-23-2015, 06:40 PM

Not all v8 have oil pump issues. It's only known with the LS3. I'm guessing the relief valve is stuck and you will need a new pump.

derek1387 · 09-23-2015, 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shibbs

Powertrain warranty is 5 years, 100,000 miles.

How do you have no warranty if you've done no mods? When did they release the 2011s?

Right, am I the only other person who was thinking this?

JCunningham · 09-26-2015, 06:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shibbs

Powertrain warranty is 5 years, 100,000 miles.

How do you have no warranty if you've done no mods? When did they release the 2011s?

+3
That 68% is oil life monitor not oil level. If you ever get low oil message you turn it off and check the oil level. You have a 5yr 100,000 mile drivetrain warranty. if you have oil you call GM road side assistance and they will pick the car up and bring it to a dealer. Do not restart the engine. Call GM or your preferred dealer and tell them you have a low oil pressure message and the oil level is full.

09-23-2015, 01:01 AM	#1
Camaro_Mike Drives: 2011 CGM SS LS3 Join Date: May 2013 Location: Charotte Posts: 288 View My Garage	POSSIBLE ENGINE DAMAGE DUE TO OIL PUMP FAILURE!!!!!!!!!!!!!! So the low oil pressure display popped up on dash yesterday. I had just drove the car about 12 miles, and parked it for about an hour. As soon as I start the car back up the low oil pressure light turns on. It tells me to shut the car off so I turn it off. I then turn the car back again for a couple of seconds, message comes up again. Tried it one more time with the hood open to listen for ticking. My engine makes noise all the time so I really didn't know what to pay attention to. I did hear some ticking, but it was not loud at all and it was barley noticeable, it sounded pretty normal to me. Im pretty sure it is the oil pump, or possibly an sensor. My car is an 2011 LS3 w/42k miles, no engine mods and NO WARRANTY. It just ran out a couple of months ago. -Is there anyway to troubleshoot to find out if the sensor is the issue WITHOUT turning the car on? -Should I expect the dealership to replace my engine if there is damage done since oil pumps on most chevy v8's are known to fail? -What actually is damaged when an engine breaks due to low oil pressure? -Could I just replace the heads or block IF there is engine damage or do I have to replace the entire engine?

09-23-2015, 02:50 AM	#2
Avenging Orange Drives: 2010 Inferno Orange 2SS/RS Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Clermont, IN Posts: 3,297	This may be a dumb question...but you didn't mention it. Have you checked the oil level? __________________ 2010 Inferno Orange 2SS/RS M6 Black Leather, Sun Roof, OBX Headers, Borla touring axle back, Cold Air Inductions CAI , non synthetic fluids, BMR total bushing upgrade/1" lowering springs, DSE 32mm rear sway bar. GM fe4 shocks/struts/LCA's, AAM 3.91 diff, Vertini RFS1.8 20x9 +30. Conti ExtremeContact Sport 275/35/20. sjm autoprod ABL dash kit. Mike Norris tuned 413/419. Avenging Orange: 43 years of not buying into the Hype........and damn proud of it!! https://youtu.be/9JD9it6SmB8 https://youtu.be/xmelTlEzI34 KICKING CANCERS ASS SINCE 2015!!

09-23-2015, 04:29 PM	#8
hunter1660 Drives: 2011ss/rs camaro Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: florida Posts: 1,261	Talk to your dealer. Maybe being prone to failure,they'll warranty some if not all the work. It won't cost you anything to ask. I wouldn't give up until someone as high as I could go up declined it. They know there's a problem... Good luck __________________ . OBX LTH,Rotofab,Magnuson Heartbeat.AEM wideband, HP Tuners

09-23-2015, 04:58 PM	#9
Avenging Orange Drives: 2010 Inferno Orange 2SS/RS Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Clermont, IN Posts: 3,297	Lets just eliminated the obvious (no matter how dumb it may sound ) and for shits n giggles, have the OP check his oil level via the dip stick. Humor me. __________________ 2010 Inferno Orange 2SS/RS M6 Black Leather, Sun Roof, OBX Headers, Borla touring axle back, Cold Air Inductions CAI , non synthetic fluids, BMR total bushing upgrade/1" lowering springs, DSE 32mm rear sway bar. GM fe4 shocks/struts/LCA's, AAM 3.91 diff, Vertini RFS1.8 20x9 +30. Conti ExtremeContact Sport 275/35/20. sjm autoprod ABL dash kit. Mike Norris tuned 413/419. Avenging Orange: 43 years of not buying into the Hype........and damn proud of it!! https://youtu.be/9JD9it6SmB8 https://youtu.be/xmelTlEzI34 KICKING CANCERS ASS SINCE 2015!!

09-23-2015, 06:40 PM	#12
rberns Drives: 2011 Camaro 2SS/RS Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: US Posts: 3,291 View My Garage	Not all v8 have oil pump issues. It's only known with the LS3. I'm guessing the relief valve is stuck and you will need a new pump. __________________ 2011 Camaro 2SS/RS, Circle D 3200, ADM Transmission Cooler, BTR Valvetrain, Cam Motion .621 .595 228/244 113+4, ARH 1 7/8 full exhaust, Cold Air Inductions, Katech C5R TC, Melling HV, BTR SLR lifters, Trunion Upgrade, LS2 Dampner, LS9 head gaskets, Bo White PTB, MM can, GFX, Subs, B&M Deep transmission pan, Holley fuel rail, Proform valve covers, relocated coil packs

09-23-2015, 02:51 AM	#3
Caswell239 Drives: 2011 2ss/rs Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Canada Posts: 1,431	Check oil level? The block has two plugs on the oil gallery on driver side, can thread an adapter in there with a mechanical oil pressure gauge and test. That will tell you what is it, pump or sensor. Believe it's m16x1.5 threads. You would still need to start the car. Only long enough to compare the gauges. Do not expect Chevy to replace anything since your out of warranty. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

09-23-2015, 02:55 AM	#5
Caswell239 Drives: 2011 2ss/rs Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Canada Posts: 1,431	No, that the oil life not the oil level. You need to go pull the dipstick under the hood Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

09-23-2015, 10:32 AM	#7
TheHorse13 Drives: 2011 Black SS M6 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Harpers Ferry, WV Posts: 1,116	The 2011 does not have an oil light. If the pump failed, which by all accounts is most likely the problem, DO NOT run the motor. Running the motor without the pump working will make things far worse. You have to tow the car to a reputable shop. You have to replace the pump. Go with the Melling, not the stock garbage pump. It will be in the area of $1,000 to fix with labor and parts. There are a million threads about this exact problem. Search the forums and every question you have on this will be answered. Internal motor damage cannot be determined by the Internet. A mechanic is needed.