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[oneheadlite]

Does any new Camaro come with all of the options that are available stock?
I was just looking at Z/28's in my area to see prices and noticed that the few I looked at didn't even come with the 4 gauge cluster.
I just thought for a car priced at one time;$76,000, it would come standard with all of the options that are available for a Camaro.

[WIPLASH]

Mine did.

[oldfriend]

Originally Posted by huligan

Mine did.

Yours is a 1LE , the Z/28 is a all different animal
The options on that animal are AC , 6 speakers that's all

[cadyshac]

OP you don't know anything about the Z/28, do some research first, this is not a grocery getter.

[oneheadlite]

Originally Posted by cadyshac

OP you don't know anything about the Z/28, do some research first, this is not a grocery getter.

You sound like the guys on the Harley forum.
This forum is where you ask questions and folk that know, answer.
If you don't know, don't answer.

[KaBoom1701]

Here's a good thread on why the Z/28 has minimal comfort options. It has the top of the line "performance" options of all the Camaros for track duty.

A fully loaded 5th Gen is a 2SS with RS package or a ZL1 model.
You can play around the Chevy web site to get a feel between 1LT, 2LT, 1SS & 2SS trim packages.


http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=323419


JALOPNIK

Why Chevy Built, Destroyed And Finally Rebuilt The Camaro Z/28

There are two reasons why the Chevrolet Camaro Z/28 exists right now: To give longtime Camaro fans a true track car and, according to its top engineer, to "beat the shit out of anything Ford can put out on the road." Here's how GM is going to pull that off.

(Full disclosure: GM wanted me to check out the 2014 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 so bad they invited me and a bunch of other writers up to their proving grounds in Milford, MI, to ride shotgun — not drive — in pre-production versions with some of the company's top drivers. A production version won't be available until closer to the beginning of next year, but GM made up for it by feeding us salad and various barbecued meats and letting me do some extra laps with my driver.)

There's a story behind how the fifth-generation Z/28 — which will be in showrooms in the first quarter of 2014 but Chevy doesn't have an exact date just yet — came into existence that involves the current ZL1, an argument over the slash symbol and bringing other companies to the table. Al Oppenheiser, the Camaro's chief engineer, told a lucky few of us this story.

Chevrolet originally planned to unleash the newest Z/28 in 2011. Its world debut was going to be at the Chicago Auto Show. Engineers had spent the last few years using the LS7 engine in dummy Camaro models, tuning and re-tuning them over and over with the goal of re-creating the track-ready Camaro owners from the past know and love. The LS9 was briefly considered, engineers say. But with that performance and eventual price point, it would be treading too far into Corvette territory.

They thought they had it. Suppliers for various parts had been contacted and production was slated to begin. For the Chicago show, GM took a regular Camaro body and added Z/28 badging, Z/28 wheels, track tires and some other engine and underbody components that would be used on a Z/28, but would not actually function as a Z/28. It was readied for a press preview prior to the actual show.

At the very last minute, Oppenheiser, who's also the guy who wants to beat the shit out of Ford, decided that this Camaro wasn't the right Camaro to carry on the Z/28 legacy. ("I was losing sleep over it," he said.) For one, it had magnetic ride control and too many other nannies. Second, it was too heavy. Third, it wasn't powerful enough.

He presented a business plan to GM North American President Mark Reuss and a handful of other top executives. They agreed, and halted the Z/28 unveil. But they couldn't figure out what to call what they had built. SS Supercharged? Something else? Finally, they agreed to resurrect ZL1. The morning of the press preview, engineers and other designers removed or replaced all Z/28 badging, came up with hastily created ZL1 badging and worked on revising their pitch just a few hours before reporters came through. Other Chevy personnel were on the lines with suppliers informing them of the last-minute change of plans.

There was a glitch when one supplier's parts order found its way online with "Z/28" listed, but as the re-christened ZL1 debuted, engineers were already back at work figuring out how to truly revive the project. They knew the ZL1 was a solid vehicle. So they worked with that blueprint for the next two years. And here we are now.

First, engineers took out all the weight. The Z/28 ended up weighing 64 pounds less than the ZL1. To further differentiate it from the ZL1, engineers sought to create as many Z/28-specific parts as possible. But they ran into a problem: Development time and budgeting was tight at GM, and since the Z/28 is a low-volume model, it doesn't have the same kind of priorities as the Malibu. So Oppenheiser and his team called for help.

Brembo, which already provided brakes for the Corvette, crafted ceramic composite brakes specifically for the Z/28. Pirelli brought 305/30ZR19 Trofeo R tires. Recaro designed the seats (though they can be swapped out for a cage). Camaro engineers also looked to GM's racing division for inspiration, and came back with Mahle pistons and Pankl titanium rods. Finally, Multimatic and Chevrolet co-developed a suspension and damping system.

Oppenheiser knows having a bunch of other names on a Chevy product might turn off some who want a true GM vehicle. But he promises those buyers won't be disappointed, and notes that a majority of the Z/28's parts were done in-house. The shifter, for one, was specially designed — and also crafted as another differentiation from the ZL1.

The biggest issue with the Z/28 was the name itself. Half of the team wanted to call it "Z28" without the slash mark. That was used on the last Z28 in the fourth-gen Camaro. But the other half wanted to bring back the slash used on prior generations. Designers crafted a bunch of badges with cardboard and engineers agonized over each one. The slash won out.

That all said, you probably want to know how the damn thing rides. Well, like I said in the disclosure — we weren't allowed to drive it at all. I rode with Adam Dean, who lapped the Z/28 around the Nürburgring in the rain at 7:37:40. (When I asked Dean about driving the Nürburgring in the rain, he shrugged it off. "Well, it was a challenge." Nice.)

The Z/28 is fast. Balls-droppingly fast. The exact specs are 505 horsepower and 481 pound feet of torque with the naturally aspirated LS7. Our top speed around the Milford course was 146 mph. That's just under the 149 mph GM told us drivers were able to get out on the track, which is designed to mimic the 'Ring, before we got there.

There's a lot of air going through the intakes because the engine gets 20% hotter than the ZL1. The vents on the hood are all angled at different positions for maximum aero. It's also noticeably lowered to the ground more than any other Camaro.

I couldn't get past the Brembo brakes. They're 394 x 36mm in the front and 390 x 32mm in the back. Obviously I wasn't the one doing the braking, but they were more than capable around the curves. And you could smell every bit of them in between drives.

The interior is bare, just as you'd expect. It's a track car. It's not meant for Sunday drives. There won't be a T-top model like the last generation. Chevy put in its performance traction management system. Supposedly it works better than launch control. Only track fans will be able to tell us, but engineers here say they think highly of the system.

I asked Oppenheiser how he plans to market the Z/28 to a new generation of buyers. The last Z/28 was produced in 2001. He says the Mustang is not the only one to beat anymore. Now they've got the Nissan GT-R on their radar. And the Porsche 911. There's a new crop of drivers who aren't wedded to the idea of American muscle as the be-all and end-all of performance.

Turns out, GM researchers found that the Z/28 was the most remembered name associated with Camaro anyway. And These Kids Today also know the Camaro from the "Transformers" franchise. What does it all mean? If GM only sells a handful of Z/28s next year to a bunch of over-50 guys millionaires wanting to recapture 1968, it'll be fine. Because a few years from now, kids who watched "Transformers" will be interested in getting their own.

GM hasn't announced the pricing for the Z/28 yet, but my guess is to look for something to start around the low $70s, maybe more. The ZL1 convertible tops out around 60 grand and is the highest-priced of the Camaro fleet.

I asked Oppenheiser one more thing about competition around the Z/28. His team wants it to go against the GT-R, sure. But could the Z/28 also take some shine away from the Corvette? Oppenheiser says the Corvette engineers and Camaro engineers are always in competition. And they're ready to re-tune the Z/28 if the 'Vette team comes with something stronger. So keep watching.

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[Kens ss]

Originally Posted by oneheadlite

Does any new Camaro come with all of the options that are available stock?
I was just looking at Z/28's in my area to see prices and noticed that the few I looked at didn't even come with the 4 gauge cluster.
I just thought for a car priced at one time;$76,000, it would come standard with all of the options that are available for a Camaro.

From what I have come to understand, is the z-28 is basically a track car, but street legal. Very little options, similar to the drag cars of the late 60's ( except by track car they mean road course.)

Yup 70k with one speaker and no AC, I think I am fine with my fully optioned SS. You can get a ZL1 or a 1LE fully loaded for much less.

[paul84043]

Aside from the Z/28, most vehicles will be ordered with a general package that seems to be more popular in a given region.
My Jeep came with Customer preferred package 23c.
It's rare to see a dealer ordered model with everything, but on the high end cars, it wouldn't surprise me to see at least 1.

[scandata]

Originally Posted by oneheadlite

You sound like the guys on the Harley forum.
This forum is where you ask questions and folk that know, answer.
If you don't know, don't answer.

+1
It always troubles me when someone asks a question, then gets shot down and discouraged form further involvement. I don't know anything about Z/28s, but for the OP, I'd suggest going to the "Build and Price" section of the Chevy site. Do a mock-up build and it will tell you exactly what comes with it, at least if it's from within the last two production years. http://www.chevrolet.com/build-your-own-chevrolet.html

[oneheadlite]

Thanks for the info.
That is all I wanted. It just seemed to me those gauges would be something in a car like a Z/28. I guess they come with a laptop or sundial?
I did not want to do a search to find out anything, just wanted the facts.
My SS is my first muscle car in 40 years. The last one for me was
a '67 Chevelle SS396 in 1975 to 1979.
I did buy the wife a Trans Am GTA in '88, but it was her car.
I'm 61 now and this car is more for my Grandson, to ride with Papaw and him
learn to drive so he can have it at 16.

[oldchevyguy]

Originally Posted by oldfriend

Yours is a 1LE , the Z/28 is a all different animal
The options on that animal are AC , 6 speakers that's all

not true--- the one on the showroom floor here has power windows as well

[kmarshall2121]

Not sure the entire 'available options' list, but mine came with ALOT

[gajagfan]

Originally Posted by oldchevyguy

not true--- the one on the showroom floor here has power windows as well

Not according to GM it does not. I am not calling you a liar, but power windows are not an option.

[scandata]

I'm guessing the dealerships add at least the basic options to make it a more attractive sale. Even though we know that it's meant for speed to be its selling point, there are still people that would look at the sticker and scoff, "you want HOW MUCH for that? It doesn't even have (insert some options here)! Even though an air conditioner adds a lot of weight, unless the car is strictly for racing, most people in the south wouldn't touch one without A/C.