Walked around and sat in a sixth gen today - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

Chrispy · 01-29-2016, 08:09 PM

I took my SRX in for service today and they had a nice black 2SS six speed with red seats and a base 2L Turbo also black

Here are my thoughts:

Car looks way better in person than in pictures. The thing I find most odd is the door sill sweep...it flares to the front of the car and not the back. It would look meaner/better flared to the back imo
The car feels 3/4's size compared to my ZL1. Back seats are useless even for young kids
Interior materials are very nice, design looks interesting and the HVAC controls are great. Seats are not as nice as the Recaros but definitely nice for a factory base seat. Very soft on the bottom of the seat though
Driving position, height of arm rest on the door, storage compartment is all perfect. Will be a great car for lapping
The trunk opening is very small, as in tiny...It's deep though
The 2SS didn't have a sunroof. There was a lot of headroom. (I'm almost six foot one)

Overall the car is very nice but I would not even remotely consider getting rid of my ZL1 for one. If I had a standard SS I would seriously consider trading up though.

One final note (I'm in Canada) The loaded 2SS listed for over 56K! That's a lot of coin...

Cheers,
Chris

jayno20 · 01-29-2016, 08:33 PM

I have looked at only one 16 2SS and I was underwhelmed. I like the direction GM is going with better materials for the interior, but the car just doesn't feel right to me...

First, it doesn't seem any smaller to me than my ZL1. I can tell from looking from the outside it isn't as wide, but it doesn't feel any smaller inside, or look any smaller (other than width) outside. The seats are nice for NON recaro's but the recaro seats have really spoiled me. The car looks like it sits wayyy too high off the ground, it would definitely need some lowering springs to look a little more aggressive.

Overall, coming from a ZL1 I wouldn't even consider a 2SS. I am anxious to see what the higher end models bring though.

teddywetts · 01-29-2016, 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by jayno20

I have looked at only one 16 2SS and I was underwhelmed. I like the direction GM is going with better materials for the interior, but the car just doesn't feel right to me...

First, it doesn't seem any smaller to me than my ZL1. I can tell from looking from the outside it isn't as wide, but it doesn't feel any smaller inside, or look any smaller (other than width) outside. The seats are nice for NON recaro's but the recaro seats have really spoiled me. The car looks like it sits wayyy too high off the ground, it would definitely need some lowering springs to look a little more aggressive.

Overall, coming from a ZL1 I wouldn't even consider a 2SS. I am anxious to see what the higher end models bring though.

I liked your point about how high it sits. I noticed that from across the parking lot. I did, however, think it looked much smaller. I was impressed with my test drive, but its nothing compared to a ZL1. I don't care what you tell me the 0-60 time is. In the power department we are miles apart. Im pissed that they took away the halo rings, I miss the gills on the side, and I haven't seen a cool set of rims yet. Im expecting Chevy to pull out some cooler models as the generation progresses. I don't really expect to see a 650+ hp model from this car. It just seems to small to have/need it. I could be wrong though, and if they do make a monster 6th gen version I would love to see how they plan to put the power to the wheels. We shall see.

jayno20 · 01-30-2016, 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by teddywetts

I liked your point about how high it sits. I noticed that from across the parking lot. I did, however, think it looked much smaller. I was impressed with my test drive, but its nothing compared to a ZL1. I don't care what you tell me the 0-60 time is. In the power department we are miles apart. Im pissed that they took away the halo rings, I miss the gills on the side, and I haven't seen a cool set of rims yet. Im expecting Chevy to pull out some cooler models as the generation progresses. I don't really expect to see a 650+ hp model from this car. It just seems to small to have/need it. I could be wrong though, and if they do make a monster 6th gen version I would love to see how they plan to put the power to the wheels. We shall see.

I don't understand how anyone could think it looks "much smaller" the actual dimensions are LITERALLY 2 inches apart. The car is 2 inches smaller... that is BARELY noticeable.

The 16 SS is 188.3 in and the 15 ZL1 is 190.6 in. I just can't see a difference when looking at them.

The best thing they did with the new Camaro is made it lighter. The size difference was completely unnoticeable for me.

KaBoom1701 · 01-30-2016, 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by jayno20

I don't understand how anyone could think it looks "much smaller" the actual dimensions are LITERALLY 2 inches apart. The car is 2 inches smaller... that is BARELY noticeable.

The 16 SS is 188.3 in and the 15 ZL1 is 190.6 in. I just can't see a difference when looking at them.

The best thing they did with the new Camaro is made it lighter. The size difference was completely unnoticeable for me.

I can tell it's smaller just by looking at the ext and int....

Had a chance to walk around one yesterday. The rear seats are ridiculous...

They sit much higher than our 5th Gens and the headroom in the back in non-existent. The 2SS sound ok but the engine sounds like it's at a higher RPM and higher exhaust note than our ZL1's run at. Just my first impressions...

nvydvr · 01-30-2016, 09:08 AM

I think it looks much smaller because of the "euro" curve design. Ours are big, bold and in your face and the new '16 is all about curves and being sleek. As far as, "will the new ZL1 have 650-700 hp?" I coorolate this to the days of the cold war... The soviet union built a ship with 10,000 guns on the deck to look like the ultimate death machine then you'd see an American warship displaying 1 maybe 2 guns... It's called technology... Our ships would smoke theirs instantly... That's the route I think GM's sticking with and I think some people just want "bragging numbers"... IMO

Bosse'sBoss · 01-30-2016, 01:50 PM

Yes the 6th. gen Camaro SS looks smaller outside and inside, the rear looks boring, sides OK, front looks OK, the plastic vents on hood in person look cheap. It went toward the direction of a Japanese sport car and lost the muscle car look, rear seat is useless (then a Stingray would be a much better option).
In other hand is very light, great suspension and shares the Stingray powertrain (reliability:?, compared with the trusted present ZL1 )
Would I replace my ZL1 for one? NO.
Would I replace one day my ZL1 for a Stingray? YES, it will be my next car.

Chrispy · 01-30-2016, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by KaBoom1701

I can tell it's smaller just by looking at the ext and int....

Had a chance to walk around one yesterday. The rear seats are ridiculous...

The sit much higher than our 5th Gens and the headroom in the back in non-existent. The 2SS sound ok but the engine sounds like it's at a higher RPM and higher exhaust note than our ZL1's run at. Just my first impressions...

Yup and the difference inside is even more significant.

jayno20 · 01-30-2016, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Chrispy

Yup and the difference inside is even more significant.

I don't really see a difference inside either as far as size go. This seems odd to me..

Fraxum · 01-31-2016, 12:11 PM

I will find out about the comparison as GM is buying back my ZL1. I will miss my ZL1 and the SC whine, but looking forward to a newer generation that is lighter. The ZL1, even though it handles like the track car it is, feels big. A very bad a@@ car on the whole.

The CA6 interior is a bit weird, but the materials are a nice step forward. The ZL1 interior has much better styling to me, but looks a little cheap.

I just wish Chevy would have built a car that is easier to see out of. You can get used to riding in a tank, but to me driving would be more enjoyable with better visibility. So that part of the comparison is a wash.

The new SS is about as fast as a ZL1 but I think will not have as much presence. Looking forward to the new car and missing the old one at the same time.

Kevlar382 · 02-01-2016, 08:21 AM

Sat in one at Barrett Jackson last week, seems kind of small. Like the size of the C5 better. Just my .02 worth, beautiful car.

bpc · 02-01-2016, 11:56 AM

I purchased my new ZL1 Just this past Dec 20th 2015 out of Calgary I live in Ontario Canada for less than a fully loaded 2016 2SS, GM had a 20% off special and took advantage.

E. Bryant · 02-01-2016, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by jayno20

I don't really see a difference inside either as far as size go. This seems odd to me..

I sat in a 2016 at a local auto show this weekend, and thought that the new interior is not as small as others have reported.

jayno20 · 02-01-2016, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by E. Bryant

I sat in a 2016 at a local auto show this weekend, and thought that the new interior is not as small as others have reported.

I guess it's just me and you then lol. I really didn't feel a huge difference. If anything a tiny bit smaller but damn near unnoticeable.

01-29-2016, 08:09 PM	#1
Chrispy 11.91 ET Bone stock Drives: 2015 Camaro ZL1 Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Canada Posts: 353	Walked around and sat in a sixth gen today I took my SRX in for service today and they had a nice black 2SS six speed with red seats and a base 2L Turbo also black Here are my thoughts: Car looks way better in person than in pictures. The thing I find most odd is the door sill sweep...it flares to the front of the car and not the back. It would look meaner/better flared to the back imo The car feels 3/4's size compared to my ZL1. Back seats are useless even for young kids Interior materials are very nice, design looks interesting and the HVAC controls are great. Seats are not as nice as the Recaros but definitely nice for a factory base seat. Very soft on the bottom of the seat though Driving position, height of arm rest on the door, storage compartment is all perfect. Will be a great car for lapping The trunk opening is very small, as in tiny...It's deep though The 2SS didn't have a sunroof. There was a lot of headroom. (I'm almost six foot one) Overall the car is very nice but I would not even remotely consider getting rid of my ZL1 for one. If I had a standard SS I would seriously consider trading up though. One final note (I'm in Canada) The loaded 2SS listed for over 56K! That's a lot of coin... Cheers, Chris

01-30-2016, 09:08 AM	#6
nvydvr Drives: 2015 Red Rock ZL1 Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Panama City Beach, Florida Posts: 1,097	I think it looks much smaller because of the "euro" curve design. Ours are big, bold and in your face and the new '16 is all about curves and being sleek. As far as, "will the new ZL1 have 650-700 hp?" I coorolate this to the days of the cold war... The soviet union built a ship with 10,000 guns on the deck to look like the ultimate death machine then you'd see an American warship displaying 1 maybe 2 guns... It's called technology... Our ships would smoke theirs instantly... That's the route I think GM's sticking with and I think some people just want "bragging numbers"... IMO __________________ Alex 2015 Red Rock ZL1 Panama City Beach, FL Last edited by nvydvr; 01-30-2016 at 11:40 AM.

01-30-2016, 01:50 PM	#7
Bosse'sBoss Drives: '16 Camaro SS 6 spd manual transm. Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: RGV Texas Posts: 1,540	Yes the 6th. gen Camaro SS looks smaller outside and inside, the rear looks boring, sides OK, front looks OK, the plastic vents on hood in person look cheap. It went toward the direction of a Japanese sport car and lost the muscle car look, rear seat is useless (then a Stingray would be a much better option). In other hand is very light, great suspension and shares the Stingray powertrain (reliability:?, compared with the trusted present ZL1 ) Would I replace my ZL1 for one? NO. Would I replace one day my ZL1 for a Stingray? YES, it will be my next car. __________________ '16 Camaro SS Prior cars: '14 Corvette C7 Stingray Z51 '14 Camaro ZL1 w/. Recaro seats '11 Mustang GT 5.0 w. track package '02 Porsche 911 Carrera '05 Infiniti G35 coupe sport

01-31-2016, 12:11 PM	#10
Fraxum Drives: a M6 LT1 ordered From Becky!!! Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: NJ Posts: 7,520	I will find out about the comparison as GM is buying back my ZL1. I will miss my ZL1 and the SC whine, but looking forward to a newer generation that is lighter. The ZL1, even though it handles like the track car it is, feels big. A very bad a@@ car on the whole. The CA6 interior is a bit weird, but the materials are a nice step forward. The ZL1 interior has much better styling to me, but looks a little cheap. I just wish Chevy would have built a car that is easier to see out of. You can get used to riding in a tank, but to me driving would be more enjoyable with better visibility. So that part of the comparison is a wash. The new SS is about as fast as a ZL1 but I think will not have as much presence. Looking forward to the new car and missing the old one at the same time. __________________ "Democracy Dies in Darkness" My LT1 Keeper ..... ..... My Car Blog CarPlayList, a free App to build USB and Android Music drives.

01-29-2016, 08:33 PM	#2
jayno20 Go fast, please. Drives: 2019 Corvette ZR1 Join Date: May 2014 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 2,471 View My Garage	I have looked at only one 16 2SS and I was underwhelmed. I like the direction GM is going with better materials for the interior, but the car just doesn't feel right to me... First, it doesn't seem any smaller to me than my ZL1. I can tell from looking from the outside it isn't as wide, but it doesn't feel any smaller inside, or look any smaller (other than width) outside. The seats are nice for NON recaro's but the recaro seats have really spoiled me. The car looks like it sits wayyy too high off the ground, it would definitely need some lowering springs to look a little more aggressive. Overall, coming from a ZL1 I wouldn't even consider a 2SS. I am anxious to see what the higher end models bring though.

02-01-2016, 08:21 AM	#11
Kevlar382 Drives: '12 ZL1; '71 RS/Z28; '99 Vette Conv Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Holland MI Posts: 599 View My Garage	Sat in one at Barrett Jackson last week, seems kind of small. Like the size of the C5 better. Just my .02 worth, beautiful car.

02-01-2016, 11:56 AM	#12
bpc Drives: 2015 Black ZL1 Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Canada Posts: 33	I purchased my new ZL1 Just this past Dec 20th 2015 out of Calgary I live in Ontario Canada for less than a fully loaded 2016 2SS, GM had a 20% off special and took advantage.