I need reassurance

[ClarityCamaro]

Okay so my car is in a ford shop. Yes a ford shop that's the only shop I felt comfortable with as he wasn't just trying to take my money. And he is A very nice guy. However. I'm not sure he knows how to tune my 2013 Camaro zl1. So far I have added a triple disk clutch, cai, headers with cat delete, and 150 shot of nitrous. I've read the forged rods are okay and can withstand 700 hp but he is insisting it won't. And although i have never used or worked with Texas speed and performance. They are the ones tunning the car I believe. And they say they have seen multiple rods fail at 700 hp to the wheels. But I've also read a lot of reputable people here say t won't. Man I am so confused.

Edit:Well the reassurance I needed I got. Night and day difference. I'll let those who see me at the track watch. Good day camaro5.

[pnoman]

750 wrhp- no problems

[Bigtime53]

My car that I sold has 711hp to the rear wheels and the guy I sold it to over a year ago is still driving it and running it pretty hard so I will say if it has held up with him driving it you should be fine. Just a thought, I have not heard of anyone knocking the rods out of a stock bottom end of a ZL1 so I would not worry about it. Just make sure you have someone who is tuning your car know exactly what they are doing because if the tune is off that may explain why some have hurt the motor. If you are in texas there is only and I mean only one place to go and that is to ADM and have andy help you. You would be wise to do that NOW instead of having anyone else touch your car.


I just looked back and I see you do live in texas so if I were you I would go get your car at the damn ford place and get it to Andy at ADM before someone does not tune your car right and you end up spending a tub full of cash on it

[ClarityCamaro]

Does anyone have experience with Texas speed and performance? I feel comfortable with my mechanic. Very comfortable he is the only personal I will let work on my car. But for tuning I'm un sure he is familiar with chevy's. With that said. What about the Pistons? I plan on having 700rwhp will my Pistons give?

[Bigtime53]

I do not think to many in the ZL1 section had went to texas speed. You might have to go to the SS camaro section to get that answer. About your asking if your pistons will be ok there are tons of people who have the hp you are asking about as I posted in the answer to your first question. I did a quick search and maybe this will help a little. If you are not satisfied with this do a search as there is one guy from florida who has run in the nines on a stock bottom end and has about 1500 runs on it and still going.

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=429025

[DonutSS]

As others have advised, call Andy at ADM and get it done right and end the worrying.

[jessrayo]

If you must use that particular builder, I would tell him to let it run on the stock bottom. I agree that ADM is the best place to go but I suspect that Andy is not going to want to just tune the car. He doesn't like to come in behind other mechanics and figure out how to fix their problems. He would rather do the whole job and he will stand behind it if he does. All he does is GM v8's and the LSA motor has some tuning differences than even the standard Camaro... just being honest but a Ford guy may have a lot of problems keeping the car from throwing codes. Wish you the best whatever you decide to do.

[KaBoom1701]

Run to ADM....

[Redlineviper]

Originally Posted by KaBoom1701

Run to ADM....

As to what the rods "can" handle


This would take well over 1000whp, probably closer to 1150+ my guess. He is running a 200 shot I believe.

[ClarityCamaro]

Dang heck yeah! And I guess we will find out tomorrow how good of a tuner he is when he tunes my car with the 100 shot and headers. He seemes confident. But only will tomorrow tell us if this kid has any skills.

[Bigtime53]

I started to say something tacky but won't. lol Good luck!

[Mike-ZL1]

Originally Posted by ClarityCamaro

Dang heck yes! And I guess we will find out tomorrow how good of a tuner he is when he tunes my car with the 100 shot and headers. He seemes confident. But only will tomorrow tell us if this kid has any skills.

Wow you are scaring me and it's not my car. First with your mods you won't be at 700 RWHP maybe around 700 crank. Second the LSA is a very stout factory engine. There are ZL1s and CTSVs making 800-1000 RWHP on stock bottom ends no problems. The tune is the most important part of your mods if it is off car will detonate and then you will hurt the engine so unless your guy is setting you up for an expensive build I would do more research and not settle. Not worth rolling the dice sounds like the guy doesn't know what he is talking about he should stick to fords.

[ClarityCamaro]

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Originally Posted by Mike-ZL1

Wow you are scaring me and it's not my car. First with your mods you won't be at 700 RWHP maybe around 700 crank. Second the LSA is a very stout factory engine. There are ZL1s and CTSVs making 800-1000 RWHP on stock bottom ends no problems. The tune is the most important part of your mods if it is off car will detonate and then you will hurt the engine so unless your guy is setting you up for an expensive build I would do more research and not settle. Not worth rolling the dice sounds like the guy doesn't know what he is talking about he should stick to fords.

So fast to judge over the Internet. I'm not sure if your insulting me because I am trying to obtain information since I am not familiar with this at all. So yea I worry myself sometimes even. I'm doing all the reading I can. And so often. I ask questions. And ever so often I encounter People such as yourself. And as a matter of fact with a 100 shot and long tube headers it ended with 645 horses to the wheels. So add another 50 shot and you're there.

Edit: 700 to the crank? Let's do some math. I will lose 15% to the drivetrain since I am a m6 that makes it 595 to the wheels. My car was dynod at 505 to the wheels with no mods. I'm not here to debate just trying to get pointers as he is a fords guy. But that does not mean he has never tuned a Chevy car either. Just asking for help not insulting. Or Remarks. Thank you.

[Mike-ZL1]

Originally Posted by ClarityCamaro

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So fast to judge over the Internet. I'm not sure if your insulting me because I am trying to obtain information since I am not familiar with this at all. So yea I worry myself sometimes even. I'm doing all the reading I can. And so often. I ask questions. And ever so often I encounter People such as yourself. And as a matter of fact with a 100 shot and long tube headers it ended with 645 horses to the wheels. So add another 50 shot and you're there.

Edit: 700 to the crank? Let's do some math. I will lose 15% to the drivetrain since I am a m6 that makes it 595 to the wheels. My car was dynod at 505 to the wheels with no mods. I'm not here to debate just trying to get pointers as he is a fords guy. But that does not mean he has never tuned a Chevy car either. Just asking for help not insulting. Or Remarks. Thank you.

Wow how was my reply insulting though I gave you some good info if you have any doubts I would not let him touch your car a lot of tuners out there to settle that's all I was saying but sounds to me you got it all figured out good luck