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![]() ![]() Drives: 2015 1SS, 1LE, Recaro, NPP Join Date: Apr 2014
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Max nitrous to spray
I'm currently spraying a 150 shot pulling the fuel from the rails. I just bought a dedicated fuel cell, and was wondering if I could up the shot to a 175 or 200? I know the fuel will be able to supply the necessary amount, I'm just curious about the motor.
If I keep it at a 150 shot, will I gain any horsepower from using C16 in the fuel cell?
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2015 Summit White 1SS, 1LE, Recaros, NPP
498 RWHP 447 RWTQ (Motor) 647 RWHP 723 RWTQ (150 Shot) 12.1 @ 117 (Motor) 11.7 @ 129 (Nitrous) Nitrous Outlet Single Nozzle Kit | Stand Alone Fuel Cell w/ C16 | Custom Grind Cam | Stainless Power 1 7/8 LT Headers | CAI Intake | ATI Super Damper | BMR Trailing Arms & Toe Links | Prothane Polyurethane Sub-frame Bushings | JDP Upper Control Arm Bushings | MT Drag Radials | Tuned by SS Motorsports Youtube Channel: Click Here Last edited by damian559; 02-12-2016 at 09:43 PM. |
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Bump. Anyone?
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2015 Summit White 1SS, 1LE, Recaros, NPP
498 RWHP 447 RWTQ (Motor) 647 RWHP 723 RWTQ (150 Shot) 12.1 @ 117 (Motor) 11.7 @ 129 (Nitrous) Nitrous Outlet Single Nozzle Kit | Stand Alone Fuel Cell w/ C16 | Custom Grind Cam | Stainless Power 1 7/8 LT Headers | CAI Intake | ATI Super Damper | BMR Trailing Arms & Toe Links | Prothane Polyurethane Sub-frame Bushings | JDP Upper Control Arm Bushings | MT Drag Radials | Tuned by SS Motorsports Youtube Channel: Click Here |
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The motor is not the weak point for nitrous. The tune is.
Detonation is the killer of all nitrous motors. Stock ls3 motors can take 300+ HP of nitrous. It's just about pulling the right amount of timing with the right fuel and plugs to keep it safe.
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300 max on stock bottom end and tune has to be absolute perfection. I think 200-250 is the sweet spot if you're going for big power on spray with a stock bottom end. Withe C16 in the fuel cell you could probably run a little more timing and pick up some power on the 150 hit.
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2015 Summit White 1SS, 1LE, Recaros, NPP
498 RWHP 447 RWTQ (Motor) 647 RWHP 723 RWTQ (150 Shot) 12.1 @ 117 (Motor) 11.7 @ 129 (Nitrous) Nitrous Outlet Single Nozzle Kit | Stand Alone Fuel Cell w/ C16 | Custom Grind Cam | Stainless Power 1 7/8 LT Headers | CAI Intake | ATI Super Damper | BMR Trailing Arms & Toe Links | Prothane Polyurethane Sub-frame Bushings | JDP Upper Control Arm Bushings | MT Drag Radials | Tuned by SS Motorsports Youtube Channel: Click Here |
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As long as you are using a dedicated system like you have to ensure good fueling, and your tune is on point then yes a 200 is no problem at all. Make sure you pull a little more timing and monitor everything on the dyno and tuner can make adjustments as needed.
On a 200 shot 1 bottle isn't going to last long at all just a heads up. If you're out racing make sure you have a 2nd bottle to swap it out with after 3 passes or so. Or just run two bottles at once and that will be much more consistent.
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I wish I wouldve went with the dual bracket, I might sell mine and buy it. How do you hook up it so you can run both bottle, a 'Y' fitting?
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2015 Summit White 1SS, 1LE, Recaros, NPP
498 RWHP 447 RWTQ (Motor) 647 RWHP 723 RWTQ (150 Shot) 12.1 @ 117 (Motor) 11.7 @ 129 (Nitrous) Nitrous Outlet Single Nozzle Kit | Stand Alone Fuel Cell w/ C16 | Custom Grind Cam | Stainless Power 1 7/8 LT Headers | CAI Intake | ATI Super Damper | BMR Trailing Arms & Toe Links | Prothane Polyurethane Sub-frame Bushings | JDP Upper Control Arm Bushings | MT Drag Radials | Tuned by SS Motorsports Youtube Channel: Click Here Last edited by damian559; 02-15-2016 at 04:40 PM. |
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Depending how much your stock pump was dropping pressure with the standalone it might be a little rich up top now. Do you have a wideband to monitor afr and any way to watch if the motor knocks? If not I'd get the tune touched up or at least looked at especially if going to a bigger jet
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Yes I have a wideband. Once the fuel cell gets installed my shop was going to put it on the dyno anyways to double check all the AFR. Currently I'm on a 150 shot with 6 degrees pulled, I'm wondering if itd be better to only pull 4 or 5 degrees and run a 150 still or put the 175 or 200 jets in and pull around 7 degrees.
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2015 Summit White 1SS, 1LE, Recaros, NPP
498 RWHP 447 RWTQ (Motor) 647 RWHP 723 RWTQ (150 Shot) 12.1 @ 117 (Motor) 11.7 @ 129 (Nitrous) Nitrous Outlet Single Nozzle Kit | Stand Alone Fuel Cell w/ C16 | Custom Grind Cam | Stainless Power 1 7/8 LT Headers | CAI Intake | ATI Super Damper | BMR Trailing Arms & Toe Links | Prothane Polyurethane Sub-frame Bushings | JDP Upper Control Arm Bushings | MT Drag Radials | Tuned by SS Motorsports Youtube Channel: Click Here |
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Each bottle needs a gauge on it the cheap small ones.
Put it on the dyno and dial in a 200 shot. You can always back down to a 150 shot or whatever later
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