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Old 03-22-2016, 06:41 PM   #365
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Funny seems the thing has gone full circle....LOL

Useless to me being modded highly and having a highly responsive tuned car as if I need less traction. Once the potentiometer that's in the pedal assembly gets its signal boosted as its basically a resistor limiting the amount of electrical flow from the pedal yes it will make the car seem faster to respond as it is and these have been around in various brand names for a long time by various names and yup just like the vitesse I used to see the same exact thing made in china on ebay by various names with the exact appearance minus their name.

You may want to pay more and get a sprint booster, or a European one but they all do the same thing enhance a signal that's weak on purpose to help save gas and not break the tires loose also in effect.....

The thing is over the years there was a huge bandwagon of guys all saying how great it was and they were like pushing for it...the Vitesse....as if they owned stock and I told people...what they were and about them and...well a few listened. They can also cause the ECM to have brain farts causing CELs and some have had to permanently remove them and some remove and clear it then reinstall later and then there are those who do not have a problem with them. At least for a few months the Push to get one was on then over time.....yes the CELs started to flood in slowly and complaints until that's the conversation that took over for a long time through various threads. I do not think the thing would cause any serious damage and yes it makes the car more of what it should be are nice things about one, however if your built I have trouble with traction.... My tune I had even with stock cubes it is easy to loose traction on launches above the 1500 or so rpm to take off cammed in a manual. Also the launch point being such to avoid stall the car can gain not hardly any more instantaneous response really with a manual when going gear to gear much but would allow a person to play with the throttles sensitivity and be able to have fun with that I guess, frankly I just use my foot and watch my revs and my shift light. Yes a shift light obd2 from speedhut.

SO there is good things and bad things about mods...... as just about anything in life if it sounds too good to be true.....

And this is from a guy who gets his car tuned by a real pro with a couple electrical engineering degrees, GMs performance and engine calibration management software and HP tuning and a Mustang load bearing DYNO. Your car was made to limp off the line thanks to the EPA, and you think that's bad CAFE standards just started to rise....... and if you don't know whats up with that you will...... what crock to the people who love muscle cars.. hey wait til your muscle car has to get 54mpg.....
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Old 03-22-2016, 06:54 PM   #366
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Old 03-22-2016, 08:30 PM   #367
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Funny seems the thing has gone full circle....LOL

... SNIP ... hey wait til your muscle car has to get 54mpg.....
So, it doesn't increase performance. I think almost everybody gets that by now. It just makes the performance you already have, a little more accessible. Which is a good thing IMHO.

Now for the true enthusiasts (such as yourself) who have tuned their car and their throttle response is dialed in.... Yeah, wouldn't really need this little band-aid.

I did order one from Vitesse, but while I was waiting for even an acknowledgement of my order, one came up form my classified post, so I cancelled it.

Now I just need to install it.
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Old 03-22-2016, 10:57 PM   #368
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I agree that if you're going to drop $10-$15K on performance mods to the engine, a throttle controller is $180 you don't need to spend.
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Old 03-23-2016, 09:29 AM   #369
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Could someone help me out here. I've been tossing the idea of getting one of these back and forth in my mind for almost a year now. What kind of noticeable difference will I feel in a V6 with this installed? I know the torque for these engines really doesn't kick in until you get into the 3k RPM, so am I correct in assuming it really won't help with the pull off the line? Not that I would ever race my car but one of the things I miss about my Altima SE-R was that low end pull off the line which I just don't get with the Camaro. It also allowed me to feel like I had more control over the engine, because I could control the throttle and the speed a bit better than I have felt like I can do with the Camaro.

Will the VTC help with that, or is it more about spinning up the RPMs faster based on how much you press the pedal? I definitely feel like there is a delay in the throttle now between when I press it down, and when the gas really hits, and I assume the VTC cuts that down tremendously. I'm just wondering exactly how much of a difference it will feel like before purchasing.

Also, I do like to alternate between Drive and Sport mode depending on the route and mood I am feeling. I assume the VTC renders these differences moot, is that correct?
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Old 03-23-2016, 09:49 AM   #370
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So, it doesn't increase performance. I think almost everybody gets that by now. It just makes the performance you already have, a little more accessible. Which is a good thing IMHO.

Now for the true enthusiasts (such as yourself) who have tuned their car and their throttle response is dialed in.... Yeah, wouldn't really need this little band-aid.

I did order one from Vitesse, but while I was waiting for even an acknowledgement of my order, one came up form my classified post, so I cancelled it.

Now I just need to install it.
I am happy for you if you want this mod, as I am for the others that enjoy it, but your statement in bold confuses me. You own a car that can break the rear end loose at an instant, and slide and drift at a whim. Obviously you can move your foot fast enough because you can make these things happen with ease. I am talking stick cars here (V8 and V6). Why give someone $200 to make it happen in a different way? How is it making the power more accessible?
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Old 03-23-2016, 11:43 AM   #371
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I am happy for you if you want this mod, as I am for the others that enjoy it, but your statement in bold confuses me. You own a car that can break the rear end loose at an instant, and slide and drift at a whim. Obviously you can move your foot fast enough because you can make these things happen with ease. I am talking stick cars here (V8 and V6). Why give someone $200 to make it happen in a different way? How is it making the power more accessible?
In a nutshell it makes the throttle more linear, and that's really about it. I was a skeptic when I ordered one, and now, I would have a hard time adjusting to driving without it.
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Old 03-23-2016, 11:50 AM   #372
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In a nutshell it makes the throttle more linear, and that's really about it. I was a skeptic when I ordered one, and now, I would have a hard time adjusting to driving without it.
what he said....level 4 is perfect...3 is ok..5 wants to jump off the line and break the tires loose (don't get me wrong..its fun)
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Old 03-23-2016, 12:33 PM   #373
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In a nutshell it makes the throttle more linear, and that's really about it. I was a skeptic when I ordered one, and now, I would have a hard time adjusting to driving without it.
I know all these statements are anecdotal, but the section above in bold is what piqued my interest. I read it over and over again in reviews and explanations of what the magical little VTC actually does. So while I am a natural born skeptic, I am convinced there is a benefit.

If it helps the car respond more like my BMW did, then I will be happy. I loved how when I applied accelerator, the car seemed to effortlessly match the throttle position. By contrast, it would seem the accelerator response in the Camaro, is optimized for MPG and to minimize wear and tear on drive-train components. So it feels a bit sluggish which requires an adjustment to how I drive naturally.

The overwhelming positive response of others, and the fact that the device exists, points to the fact that it is a needed and wanted improvement. Necessity is the mother of invention.

I'll probably install mine this weekend.
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I know all these statements are anecdotal, but the section above in bold is what piqued my interest. I read it over and over again in reviews and explanations of what the magical little VTC actually does. So while I am a natural born skeptic, I am convinced there is a benefit.

If it helps the car respond more like my BMW did, then I will be happy. I loved how when I applied accelerator, the car seemed to effortlessly match the throttle position. By contrast, it would seem the accelerator response in the Camaro, is optimized for MPG and to minimize wear and tear on drive-train components. So it feels a bit sluggish which requires an adjustment to how I drive naturally.

The overwhelming positive response of others, and the fact that the device exists, points to the fact that it is a needed and wanted improvement. Necessity is the mother of invention.

I'll probably install mine this weekend.
for me its a must have in fact if i broke mine i would get a new one asap will not go with out it.. good luck with the install
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Old 03-23-2016, 01:20 PM   #375
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I really like mine and have had no issue with mine as some have reported. I can feel a slight difference when on various settings and really enjoy using it. A friend of mine who drives a GT500 Super Snake drove the car for the first time yesterday and was impressed with the throttle respond, money well spent.
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Old 03-23-2016, 04:12 PM   #376
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just installed mine a few weeks ago, drive on setting 4, if im feeling brave I switch to 8. 9 is when im pumped up from the gym and driving back lol

I switched to 0 to see how the stock one felt after a few weeks on 4-9 and I almost thought there was something wrong with my car...
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Old 03-23-2016, 05:09 PM   #377
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just installed mine a few weeks ago, drive on setting 4, if im feeling brave I switch to 8. 9 is when im pumped up from the gym and driving back lol

I switched to 0 to see how the stock one felt after a few weeks on 4-9 and I almost thought there was something wrong with my car...
Exactly!! Drive with it for a while, then set it back to zero(stock) and your car feels like a POS. It really makes a difference in the way the car feels. I know that I should Cam and bore the heads and get headers and a tune and a Super Charger and a high stall torque converter and I should get 3.91 gears and ........ I don't care, it's a V-6 and Vitesse TC makes it ROCK and ROLL!!
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Old 03-23-2016, 05:26 PM   #378
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Exactly!! Drive with it for a while, then set it back to zero(stock) and your car feels like a POS. It really makes a difference in the way the car feels. I know that I should Cam and bore the heads and get headers and a tune and a Super Charger and a high stall torque converter and I should get 3.91 gears and ........ I don't care, it's a V-6 and Vitesse TC makes it ROCK and ROLL!!
I love your response it made me laugh!
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