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SS PANTHER · 03-28-2015, 06:20 PM

Just had my supercharged TRD 4runner done. No sniffer. OBDII port and a visual. He did check and verify my CARB EO sticker for the supercharger.

BlownChevy · 04-21-2015, 05:56 PM

You might think you will pass, but I suspect it is only getting harder. If the tech does a proper visual you will not even come close.

rabidryan805 · 03-31-2016, 11:54 AM

I wanna know about this also, if anyone has already done there smog test in CA with the LSA conversion.

SS PANTHER · 04-04-2016, 05:28 PM

The biggest problem that I see with some of these mods that don't comply is not so much in the inspection, where some of you may know the right places to go where they turn the other way, it is if you get pulled over for speeding, loud exhaust, even no front plate and the LEO may check your car. If he finds issues they can send you to the state referee. Then you will have to remove and reinstall everything until it complies. CAI's, high flow cats, that's easy stuff. LT's, twin turbos, centrifugal chargers, expensive and time consuming. Not worth it in the long haul IMO.

LSX Camaro · 04-04-2016, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Nighthawk89

Just get linked up with the right tuner. You'll pass smog.

A tuner has nothing to do with passing the visual portion of a California state emissions inspection. If the check engine light is off and all the required monitors have passed the next step is the visual. If you have a guy who can do the test with his eyes closed you can pass.

Jeff_SS · 04-05-2016, 02:28 AM

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Originally Posted by SS PANTHER

The biggest problem that I see with some of these mods that don't comply is not so much in the inspection, where some of you may know the right places to go where they turn the other way, it is if you get pulled over for speeding, loud exhaust, even no front plate and the LEO may check your car. If he finds issues they can send you to the state referee. Then you will have to remove and reinstall everything until it complies. CAI's, high flow cats, that's easy stuff. LT's, twin turbos, centrifugal chargers, expensive and time consuming. Not worth it in the long haul IMO.

Or just pay the ref ticket and move on.
Don't have to waste your time de-modding and then re-modding that way.

SS PANTHER · 04-05-2016, 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeff_SS

Or just pay the ref ticket and move on.
Don't have to waste your time de-modding and then re-modding that way.

Didn't think it was that easy. I've heard different, but, it sounds like you went through this. I think most Cali Camaros on this forum have something illegal, including myself. Nice N/A build you have there.

LSX Camaro · 04-06-2016, 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff_SS

Or just pay the ref ticket and move on.
Don't have to waste your time de-modding and then re-modding that way.

No, you do not just get to pay a fine and move on. You will not be able to register the vehicle until it is deemed legal.

LSX Camaro · 04-06-2016, 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by SS PANTHER

Didn't think it was that easy. I've heard different, but, it sounds like you went through this. I think most Cali Camaros on this forum have something illegal, including myself. Nice N/A build you have there.

You are right it's not that easy. The issue is 99% of the posts are completely inaccurate.

Jeff_SS · 04-07-2016, 02:24 AM

^lol

King Nothing · 04-13-2016, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by HAMBO

I don't believe adding an LSA supercharger is smog legal, even though another Camaro comes with it from the factory. Same way adding a Z28 CAI isn't smog legal. Whether you'll get busted for it is an entirely different thing.

I believe you need to smog it as a ZL1 for it to be smog legal, call a state ref for the answer. The Z28 CAI isn't smog legal for your LS3, but swapping a 7.0 with that intake is with a vin to match

or go my route and have a 73 that smog can't do shit about.

TommyTheCat · 04-14-2016, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Nighthawk89

Just get linked up with the right tuner. You'll pass smog.

Not if I run that smog. Or if anyone who knows what they're doing runs the smog.

Need to talk to a referee if you convert to LSA unless you just get a CARB legal supercharger kit for your stock motor.

A lot of bar refs are cool. The others are all PITAS.

HAMBO · 04-14-2016, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Stock6.0GTO

I believe you need to smog it as a ZL1 for it to be smog legal

Not sure what you mean by "as a ZL1", since your VIN would either be Zl1 or not. Not like it's a matter of choice.

Either way OP, there are plenty of CARB certified superchargers. Why not pick one of those over the LSA?

macwest · 04-14-2016, 04:17 PM

Just did my smog OBDII does not pick up tune. However, all added on parts needs an EO number if you have a supercharger they will be looking for a sticker. No sticker you will fail. I had that issue on my shorty headers tried to pass Doug Thorley as Doug Headers. Ended up up having to buy a Doug/JBA headers and put them on.

If you are going LSA then I would look at edelbrock and avoid smog hassle but that's me

On conversion they look at complete motor and computer change. Not as simple or as inexpensive as upgrading a supercharger.

04-07-2016, 02:24 AM	#24
Jeff_SS "Cam Only" Drives: 2013 Camaro SS Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Scottsdale, AZ Posts: 1,773 View My Garage	^lol __________________ 2013 AGM Camaro 2SS/RS M6 \| LSA Blower, 2.5" pulley, 10% lower, FIC1000's, Fore Innovations Twin Pump fuel system w/ Flex Fuel, CMS Custom Grind Cam, Kooks 1 7/8" headers w/ catless off-road pipes, NPP Exhaust, 3.91's, JLT ZL1 Intake, Prospeed Heat Exchanger, Monster S Series Triple Disc Clutch \| Pfadt Suspension, 1LE Sway Bars \| DSS 1000hp axles \| Mickey Thompson ET Street R 305/45/18 \| Tuned by Ryne @ CMS E85: 734rwhp/674rwtq

04-14-2016, 04:17 PM	#28
macwest Drives: 10 Camaro 2SS/RS, 70 Cuda, 71 Cuda Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Oakley - Northern California Posts: 1,156 View My Garage	Just did my smog OBDII does not pick up tune. However, all added on parts needs an EO number if you have a supercharger they will be looking for a sticker. No sticker you will fail. I had that issue on my shorty headers tried to pass Doug Thorley as Doug Headers. Ended up up having to buy a Doug/JBA headers and put them on. If you are going LSA then I would look at edelbrock and avoid smog hassle but that's me On conversion they look at complete motor and computer change. Not as simple or as inexpensive as upgrading a supercharger. __________________ "Z28 = first time I bought a new car just to strip parts for my current ride. GM needs to re-think restricted parts. "

03-28-2015, 06:20 PM	#15
SS PANTHER Drives: 2013 SS Supercharged Convertible Join Date: May 2013 Location: SoCal Posts: 2,713	Just had my supercharged TRD 4runner done. No sniffer. OBDII port and a visual. He did check and verify my CARB EO sticker for the supercharger.

04-21-2015, 05:56 PM	#16
BlownChevy Drives: 2015 1SS RS 1LE Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Simi Valley, CA Posts: 772	You might think you will pass, but I suspect it is only getting harder. If the tech does a proper visual you will not even come close.

03-31-2016, 11:54 AM	#17
rabidryan805 Drives: 2011 Camaro 2SS/RS Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Oxnard Posts: 157	I wanna know about this also, if anyone has already done there smog test in CA with the LSA conversion.

04-04-2016, 05:28 PM	#18
SS PANTHER Drives: 2013 SS Supercharged Convertible Join Date: May 2013 Location: SoCal Posts: 2,713	The biggest problem that I see with some of these mods that don't comply is not so much in the inspection, where some of you may know the right places to go where they turn the other way, it is if you get pulled over for speeding, loud exhaust, even no front plate and the LEO may check your car. If he finds issues they can send you to the state referee. Then you will have to remove and reinstall everything until it complies. CAI's, high flow cats, that's easy stuff. LT's, twin turbos, centrifugal chargers, expensive and time consuming. Not worth it in the long haul IMO.