Which Type Of Tune?

[RupertPupkin]

Ive had all my builds dyno tuned, and never had experience with remote tunes. Any who, I could get my full build (cam/headers/intake/remote tune) for $2200 or have everything the same except having it dyno tuned for $2500.

Would both types of tune net the same #s & performance?

Remote tune will be done by Pat G, Rick C, or Shane.

[0331Marine]

For the price I would do the Dyno tune, but that's just me. I currently use remote, but only because I have basic bolt ons.

[JerTM]

I would dyno tune it, you get a more accurate tune based on how your exact engine runs. Nothing against remote tune, but if you have access to a dyno tune it's the better option

[RupertPupkin]

Ive heard a lot of good feedback from Pat G/ Rick C tunes though.

[JCunningham]

Originally Posted by JerTM

I would dyno tune it, you get a more accurate tune based on how your exact engine runs. Nothing against remote tune, but if you have access to a dyno tune it's the better option

+1

[Avenging Orange]

Not to be a dick.....but if you have had all your others dyno tuned......you know what you get. Why would ask this question?

[RupertPupkin]

Originally Posted by Avenging Orange

Not to be a dick.....but if you have had all your others dyno tuned......you know what you get. Why would ask this question?

Cost... and im contemplating on doing rhings in stages...

[Unreal]

Way too broad of a question. A dyno tune doesnt magically make it a good tune. A remote tune doesnt make it bad.

It is all on the tuner. I have friends with remote tunes that went 8s first pass, never had an issue, spot on tune with 1-2 revisions. I've had people get dynos tunes, run like crap, finally get a remote tune and run perfect. It has nothing to do with "remote" or dyno.

A dyno is just a tool to be able to do pull after pull easily without being arrested on the street.

With email/access today, remote tune doesn't mean canned tune. You get a safe tune to start with, make some pulls, send the log back to tuner, he adjust. Since it is actually real world data on the street, it is actually better than a simulated run on a dyno without real load. The "remote" tuner than adjust, sends another tune, and you dial it in. Only down side is it could take a week or two, and you have to put in some time, but results are just as good or better than a "dyno" tune.

Then again, like I started with, it all depends on the tuner. I would take a remote Pat G tune over 99% of "local dyno tunes".

[SPCBA]

Even the good honest remote tuners would say they'd rather drive the car...

my "in person" tune had a base tune loaded then adjusted on dyno then ran on street and adjusted from the driver seat then ran on track and adjusted again as per my request. If you can get that type of responsibility from a "remote" tune then sure. But you goal should be this type of service, remote clearly puts more on the car owner to get a proper result.

I know I am extremely lucky to have a phenomenal shop and tuner so close to me.

[RupertPupkin]

Originally Posted by Unreal

Way too broad of a question. A dyno tune doesnt magically make it a good tune. A remote tune doesnt make it bad.

It is all on the tuner. I have friends with remote tunes that went 8s first pass, never had an issue, spot on tune with 1-2 revisions. I've had people get dynos tunes, run like crap, finally get a remote tune and run perfect. It has nothing to do with "remote" or dyno.

A dyno is just a tool to be able to do pull after pull easily without being arrested on the street.

With email/access today, remote tune doesn't mean canned tune. You get a safe tune to start with, make some pulls, send the log back to tuner, he adjust. Since it is actually real world data on the street, it is actually better than a simulated run on a dyno without real load. The "remote" tuner than adjust, sends another tune, and you dial it in. Only down side is it could take a week or two, and you have to put in some time, but results are just as good or better than a "dyno" tune.

Then again, like I started with, it all depends on the tuner. I would take a remote Pat G tune over 99% of "local dyno tunes".

The builder said it could take a whole day to tune the car remotely. I'd definitely have the car tuned by Pat G. Heard a lot of good things. But dang...the whole day. That's a lot of miles. + side too is that I read it's an avg f $100 to get a new tune setup if there's more power adders involved.

[Unreal]

Originally Posted by SPCBA

Even the good honest remote tuners would say they'd rather drive the car...

my "in person" tune had a base tune loaded then adjusted on dyno then ran on street and adjusted from the driver seat then ran on track and adjusted again as per my request. If you can get that type of responsibility from a "remote" tune then sure. But you goal should be this type of service, remote clearly puts more on the car owner to get a proper result.

I know I am extremely lucky to have a phenomenal shop and tuner so close to me.

Yes it can take more time, and owner has to log and get involved more, but end results are all in the tuner.

Of course a good tuner rather do it themselves, as it is quicker/easier but the end quality and results of the tune should not be different.

I've seen plenty of "dyno tunes" that are complete crap. Don't fall for the trap of if a shop has a dyno, they know what they are doing.

A good tuner dialing it in at a track or on street is by far the best, as that is real world.

[JCunningham]

the reason a dyno tune is better is because they use a wide band o2. you can get a remote tune done with a wideband but you have to have one to do data logs. if the tuner doesn't know what he's doing then the tune will be crap no matter what kind of tune you get.

[Unreal]

Remote tune should be done with a wideband too. That is just confusing the issue. Plus I would trust a wideband in the system where it should be than a tail pipe sniffer that gets way over used.

[RupertPupkin]

I thought wideband was only for boost apucations, and not really needed for cam only car