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Mr. Stacy · 05-07-2016, 02:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superman09

It is an Elite catch can

Sent from my campfire using smoke signals

Yes, and Elite has responded their moral support, but a retainer fee would be a much better show of support in this case. After all.... can't be good for business.

JMHO

*mlee* · 05-07-2016, 05:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Jackass

Well , we just have a one side of the story ( not trying to say that the OP have done something else to the car ) but most of the time there is always the second side ! who's knows !

GM's side "the car was modified". There's your other side.

Myself and other mods here know the OP personally and know this car and know what "warranty" meant to the OP who did not want to modify the car until warranty was out. Yes, we are getting an actual account of the story.

BlueStreakHouTX · 05-07-2016, 06:29 AM

I just read this entire post from start to finish, and I am shocked that I didnt see the one post I was sure I would see:

No one from GM Customer Care has posted on here to have OP contact them to get this resolved.

This is the fastest way to get GMs attention.

Fred 6528 · 05-07-2016, 06:38 AM

It appears that your dealer has screwed you on this deal and placing the blame elsewhere. To complete your mission will become expensive, but if you must have the car to drive get it fixed by someone else. The process will take forever to complete and your car will just sit, this will get you back on the road. Then this will give you time to find someone that can help you present your case in a manner that will help get you money toward the bill of fixing the car, the dealer and GM have dug their feet in the sand and they aren't budging. This will be a bitch to complete with a lot of stress and aggravation.

motorhead · 05-07-2016, 06:53 AM

Find a lawyer and not only sue for your bullshit warranty denial, but also file a class action suit for the oil pump failure which has been a very common problem name every person and company you can. Get your story to every media outlet you can. It's a damn shame that Companies charge us huge price tags for cars these days and skate responsibility when a problem comes up.

This really pisses me off. I buy a lot of GM vehicles personally and for my business. Im following your story. This gets fixed ,or I'm not longer a GM buyer. If we were really Camaro brothers here, like many say, you all would make this pledge too and stick to it. Let these bastards know that we are not putting up with their thievery anymore.

Irace16 · 05-07-2016, 08:54 AM

I signed in spirit I guess... I'm not on Facebook so it wouldn't "take"

christianchevell · 05-07-2016, 09:03 AM

the magnuson moss act states that a modification cannot be proved to have caused a failure...well it should be covered when its under the warranty. On the other hand also there is lemon laws in various states that also cover things... the repeated replacement of a oil pump which repeatedly starved the motor and its components for oil causing damage to it would be a great place to start along with the ACT..... Also talking directly to GM and going through another dealer and Filing Suit yourself for the estimated cost to replace the engine. Lawyers are like a plaque, You pay the fee for suit filing and guarantee you will get their attention, I have resolved things out of court several times with those that have wronged me, And with free advice from legal aid filed papers myself, and recovered what I wanted and it only cost me filing fees. The thing is the higher you go the more it costs, and if it were to go to court as I have been to before you better have all the documents form repairs, oil changes anything related to the operation of a simple catch can, and I would even have torn down the engine and bring in worn parts..... One time I brought a cylinder head to court, and yes I won.

But as far as being a day late and a dollar short, you may be screwed in that respect, so do the research, you do IMO have a right to expect a engine that's trouble free for the life of the warranty, if replacement of the pump should have extended the warranty, well that something to investigate, Good Luck.

SS376 · 05-07-2016, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by norf

This thread has me so irritated that if GM doesn't step up i am buying a Japanese car. Wife wants a new car this year so we will probably not be buying GM this time.

If you think Japanese manufacturers don't void warranties you're dreaming.

*mlee* · 05-07-2016, 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SS376

If you think Japanese manufacturers don't void warranties you're dreaming.

This is a very isolated incident in GM's defense. Just think the dealer got a bit carried away here.

68rssscamaro · 05-07-2016, 09:27 AM

How does this petition work? Does it just go to the GM official that it is addressed to, after a certain amount of signatures are collected? Or does she have visibility to it already? Anyone know?

I signed already and was just curious.

jd10013 · 05-07-2016, 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SS376

If you think Japanese manufacturers don't void warranties you're dreaming.

very true. I know nobody wants to hear it, but any time you modify your vehicle you run this risk. the warranty you get is for the car as it is when it rolls off the assembly line. not your modified version of it. the burden of proof isn't really on them as you changed what they made. and Magnesson moss act isn't really for stuff like this. as far as cars go it's primary purpose is to prevent the manufacture from making you bring the car in to them regularly to perform oil changes and maintenance or void the warranty

motorhead · 05-07-2016, 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SS376

If you think Japanese manufacturers don't void warranties you're dreaming.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mlee

This is a very isolated incident in GM's defense. Just think the dealer got a bit carried away here.

Agree on both accounts. It is probably more the dealer's fault that got him into this predicament in the first place. I know my dealer would give a rats ass about a catch can.
Everytime I see one of these threads pop up, I'm grateful that I have two awesome Chevy dealers both within a half hour from home.

bobby35ny · 05-07-2016, 10:13 AM

You would think Elite would be on the phone with other Catch Can manufacturers and try to band together. If a CC is a warranty void sales will tank.

Maybe the dealer was being a PIG? I know GM pays for the warranty work but I don't think they pay FULL retail. Maybe they wanted the OP to pay because they tack on extra money?

-bobby

2SSRS@Gen5diy · 05-07-2016, 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mlee

This is a very isolated incident in GM's defense. Just think the dealer got a bit carried away here.

+1 signed and so you know this is on the dealer.

05-07-2016, 06:53 AM	#159
motorhead Drives: Love the one you're with Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Downtown Charlie Brown Posts: 11,849	Find a lawyer and not only sue for your bullshit warranty denial, but also file a class action suit for the oil pump failure which has been a very common problem name every person and company you can. Get your story to every media outlet you can. It's a damn shame that Companies charge us huge price tags for cars these days and skate responsibility when a problem comes up. This really pisses me off. I buy a lot of GM vehicles personally and for my business. Im following your story. This gets fixed ,or I'm not longer a GM buyer. If we were really Camaro brothers here, like many say, you all would make this pledge too and stick to it. Let these bastards know that we are not putting up with their thievery anymore. Last edited by motorhead; 05-07-2016 at 10:21 AM.

05-07-2016, 08:54 AM	#160
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05-07-2016, 09:03 AM	#161
christianchevell old school chevy rodder Drives: 2021 zl1 a-10 WildCherry Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Oregon Posts: 5,622 View My Garage	the magnuson moss act states that a modification cannot be proved to have caused a failure...well it should be covered when its under the warranty. On the other hand also there is lemon laws in various states that also cover things... the repeated replacement of a oil pump which repeatedly starved the motor and its components for oil causing damage to it would be a great place to start along with the ACT..... Also talking directly to GM and going through another dealer and Filing Suit yourself for the estimated cost to replace the engine. Lawyers are like a plaque, You pay the fee for suit filing and guarantee you will get their attention, I have resolved things out of court several times with those that have wronged me, And with free advice from legal aid filed papers myself, and recovered what I wanted and it only cost me filing fees. The thing is the higher you go the more it costs, and if it were to go to court as I have been to before you better have all the documents form repairs, oil changes anything related to the operation of a simple catch can, and I would even have torn down the engine and bring in worn parts..... One time I brought a cylinder head to court, and yes I won. But as far as being a day late and a dollar short, you may be screwed in that respect, so do the research, you do IMO have a right to expect a engine that's trouble free for the life of the warranty, if replacement of the pump should have extended the warranty, well that something to investigate, Good Luck. __________________ 2021 Wild Cherry ZL1 A10, Sunroof, Data,Red Carbon Interior, Nav, RotoFab Big Gulp , Elite x2ultra, Borla ATAK, Driveshaft shop, BMR susp, Speed covers, intercoolers, ATI , 2650 MAG, DSX lid, 103 NW, TSP Longtubes & cats, LPE, 1le mods, ,LME cover, Katech pump and chain, Trunnions, BTR stage 2, LPE boostapump, Gforce, Speed eng , Granetteli, etc etc

05-07-2016, 09:27 AM	#164
68rssscamaro Camaro: A Legend Reborn!! Drives: SOLD: 12 2SS/RS LS3 45th Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: NY Posts: 743 View My Garage	How does this petition work? Does it just go to the GM official that it is addressed to, after a certain amount of signatures are collected? Or does she have visibility to it already? Anyone know? I signed already and was just curious. __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

05-07-2016, 10:13 AM	#167
bobby35ny Drives: 18 ZL1 A10 Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: South East, FL Posts: 3,023	You would think Elite would be on the phone with other Catch Can manufacturers and try to band together. If a CC is a warranty void sales will tank. Maybe the dealer was being a PIG? I know GM pays for the warranty work but I don't think they pay FULL retail. Maybe they wanted the OP to pay because they tack on extra money? -bobby __________________ 2017 ZL1 M6 Bog City, 2013 ZL1 M6, 2010 2SS M6 ZL1::J-E-T-S JETS JETS JETS

05-07-2016, 06:29 AM	#157
BlueStreakHouTX Drives: 2012 Camaro 2SS RS IOM Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Spring Texas Posts: 230 View My Garage	I just read this entire post from start to finish, and I am shocked that I didnt see the one post I was sure I would see: No one from GM Customer Care has posted on here to have OP contact them to get this resolved. This is the fastest way to get GMs attention.

05-07-2016, 06:38 AM	#158
Fred 6528 Drives: 2011 ss Join Date: May 2013 Location: va Posts: 983	It appears that your dealer has screwed you on this deal and placing the blame elsewhere. To complete your mission will become expensive, but if you must have the car to drive get it fixed by someone else. The process will take forever to complete and your car will just sit, this will get you back on the road. Then this will give you time to find someone that can help you present your case in a manner that will help get you money toward the bill of fixing the car, the dealer and GM have dug their feet in the sand and they aren't budging. This will be a bitch to complete with a lot of stress and aggravation.