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SlingShot · 05-11-2016, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by SlingShot

The odometer does not measure tenths, could have only been moved 1/10 of a mile to turn to next mile.

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Originally Posted by Nor Cal ZL1

Does not matter, they started the car, deal is done right there. Bottom line they finished off the engine with improper diagnosis methods, never ever start an engine with oiling issues.

It does matter, there is a lot of possible false info being put out here. There is a big difference between a 1/10th of a mile and a full mile. And just starting the car for 5 seconds to let the dials index will not hurt it.

lkurek · 05-11-2016, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by shrinkdoc

This is why your repairs are being blocked. Send a certified copy of your above letter to Mary Barra. Maybe she will fix it or even pay for it out of her new salary money.
http://fortune.com/2016/04/22/mary-b...eneral-motors/

Really? Lets not be anti-capitalist here. Her bonus/compensation has ZERO to do with a warranty denial. I tend to think it was denied more due to Obamacare

Enough of the political distractions

PDXSSCE · 05-11-2016, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by lkurek

Really? Lets not be anti-capitalist here. Her bonus/compensation has ZERO to do with a warranty denial. I tend to think it was denied more due to Obamacare

Enough of the political distractions

Nor Cal ZL1 · 05-11-2016, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by SlingShot

It does matter, there is a lot of possible false info being put out here. There is a big difference between a 1/10th of a mile and a full mile. And just starting the car for 5 seconds to let the dials index will not hurt it.

No it does not. If your willing to start up an engine with known low or no oil pressure you are assuming the risk of the damage. Either tear down the motor, or remove the plugs and disable the fuel/ignition and use the starter to bump rotate it a few times with a manual gage installed. If you want to run your engine with no pressure thats cool, but if my dealer ran mine and pulled this crap with me, they decded to run the engine, they just bought the engine.

qcman · 05-11-2016, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Nor Cal ZL1

No it does not. If your willing to start up an engine with known low or no oil pressure you are assuming the risk of the damage. Either tear down the motor, or remove the plugs and disable the fuel/ignition and use the starter to bump rotate it a few times with a manual gage installed. If you want to run your engine with no pressure thats cool, but if my dealer ran mine and pulled this crap with me, they decded to run the engine, they just bought the engine.

That is precisely how I see it too. If you ran my engine at all without oil pressure especially knowing that is why the car was brought in you would be fixing my car and not GM.

I would be going after the dealer right now if I were the OP all the while trying to get my warranty restored with GM.

Xmitterengineer · 05-11-2016, 05:00 PM

Some very telling things from the OP's extensive write-up on this:

1. “no oil pressure shut down engine” was displayed upon starting the engine.
2. He "checked the oil level and it was full"

This leaves a few obvious possibilities:

1. Oil pump failure.
2. Oil pressure sensor failure.
3. Massive internal oil leak.
4. Total obstruction in the lubrication system before the pressure sender.

IMHO:

None of the above scenarios could be caused by a catch can.
Even a gross leak or blockage in the PCV system would not produce any of these results.

Good luck to the OP.

HELLsx · 05-11-2016, 05:16 PM

Hey Op!! Give us a sign of life! I understand you may not be able to tell everything if your working somethng out.... But dont leave us hanging and chearing for you all by ourselves!! At least let us know if you have a bite on the line!!l

15SUPERSPORT · 05-11-2016, 05:17 PM

Originally posted in the petition thread, moved to correct thread...
I have an Elite Engineering catch can, and forwarded this to them a few days ago. Glad to see they have engaged in the thread. I considered removing the can, deleting it from my sig both here and at SSforums.com, but have decided against it. I'll not be intimidated by strong arm tactics no matter the cost. GM is obviously making a big mistake, not only technically but business wise as well. This isn't good business, and with Mustangs and Challengers out there this will make some people second guess the Camaro and GM as a whole. I would have considered(OK not really) the Charger deer scat if it had three pedals, but it didn't. I'm glad because I love my car, but many people aren't brand loyal and things like this will have people jumping ship. I do hope that for the OP and for all the rest of us running catch cans that this is handled correctly by GM in the long run, it is up to all of us to keep the pressure on.
As for the dealership running the car for 1/10th or one mile or one minute, this is why I have a dashcam that never shuts off. It is my proverbial fly on the wall. From accidents to oil changes, it is an invaluable tool that lands documented proof in your corner every time. If the OP had video of the dealership driving his car with a known oil pressure issue resulting in whatever issues now exist, and GM was aware of this video, one has to wonder if the tune being sung would have a sweeter melody. If you don't have a dashcam, get one. They are cheap insurance against unscrupulous drivers and dealerships.
We are pulling for you Superman09.

PDXSSCE · 05-11-2016, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by HELLsx

Hey Op!! Give us a sign of life! I understand you may not be able to tell everything if your working somethng out.... But dont leave us hanging and chearing for you all by ourselves!! At least let us know if you have a bite on the line!!l

Yeah, this is almost as good as rooting for Rocky.

Superman09 · 05-11-2016, 05:40 PM

My apologies for not updating y'all. I was up for ~40 hours straight from Sunday through Monday evening. I have been contacted by someone from GM and the situation is being investigated. I can't go into it much more than that other than to say a HUGE thank you to everyone in here for signing the petition and for the support and encouragement. Still don't have an answer but apparently we have been heard. Keep pushing the petition and I will update again when I can.

Sent from my campfire using smoke signals

jcampos · 05-11-2016, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by shrinkdoc

One other thing we can do is drive our Camaros to GM in Detroit on a given day, line them up and burn them in their lot in a show of solidarity!

I do hope it doesn't come to that.

OR we can all sell our Camaro's and buy Kia Souls, then get together in front of GM in Detroit!

WHO'S WITH ME?!?! ......... anyone?.......... someone?........... "sigh" nevermind.

shrinkdoc · 05-11-2016, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by jcampos

OR we can all sell our Camaro's and buy Kia Souls, then get together in front of GM in Detroit!

WHO'S WITH ME?!?! ......... anyone?.......... someone?........... "sigh" nevermind.

Now that is a bit extreme. I'd rather burn my Camaro than buy Kia.

JLSuperfly · 05-11-2016, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by PDXSSCE

Yeah, this is almost as good as rooting for Rocky.

LOL. Good one.

Ewey · 05-11-2016, 06:17 PM

Signed

05-11-2016, 05:16 PM	#357
HELLsx Drives: 2SS/RS 1LE Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Montreal Posts: 161	Hey Op!! Give us a sign of life! I understand you may not be able to tell everything if your working somethng out.... But dont leave us hanging and chearing for you all by ourselves!! At least let us know if you have a bite on the line!!l __________________ BOUGHT THE LAST avail. 2015 1LE in Canada!!! Signed March 3rd 2016. Shippig from British Columbia to Montreal for delivery. 2SS-RS-1LE. Exhaust (NPP), Recaro's(AYZ), Navigation, Heads UP display, Boston acoustic (UHQ), Rear view camera, Sun roof (CF5) ...(hey, it was there...), Opt Gas cap (VQL), Optionnal carpet mats (VYW), rear cargo net (W2D). RS package (WRS) / with HID lightning and fogs (T4F and T3N). Yep..... It was kinda loaded!! :-) but it was the last 2015 1LE in Canada. I wanted white.... I got BLACK!!!! Lol!!!

05-11-2016, 05:17 PM	#358
15SUPERSPORT Drives: 2015 Chevy SS Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Des Moines Posts: 2	Originally posted in the petition thread, moved to correct thread... I have an Elite Engineering catch can, and forwarded this to them a few days ago. Glad to see they have engaged in the thread. I considered removing the can, deleting it from my sig both here and at SSforums.com, but have decided against it. I'll not be intimidated by strong arm tactics no matter the cost. GM is obviously making a big mistake, not only technically but business wise as well. This isn't good business, and with Mustangs and Challengers out there this will make some people second guess the Camaro and GM as a whole. I would have considered(OK not really) the Charger deer scat if it had three pedals, but it didn't. I'm glad because I love my car, but many people aren't brand loyal and things like this will have people jumping ship. I do hope that for the OP and for all the rest of us running catch cans that this is handled correctly by GM in the long run, it is up to all of us to keep the pressure on. As for the dealership running the car for 1/10th or one mile or one minute, this is why I have a dashcam that never shuts off. It is my proverbial fly on the wall. From accidents to oil changes, it is an invaluable tool that lands documented proof in your corner every time. If the OP had video of the dealership driving his car with a known oil pressure issue resulting in whatever issues now exist, and GM was aware of this video, one has to wonder if the tune being sung would have a sweeter melody. If you don't have a dashcam, get one. They are cheap insurance against unscrupulous drivers and dealerships. We are pulling for you Superman09. __________________ 2015 Chevy SS Performance Sedan Perfect Blue Metallic, 6M, fully optioned. Elite Engineering catch can, Roto-Fab CAI, engine and radiator covers, S & B Blue Power Stack filter, Weathertech floorliners, 35% tint, ClearShield Pro, Lloyd SS trunk mat, 1296P, 1080P HD dashcams, Solo Performance axle back exhaust, Maverick Man strut tower caps, billet SS abs cover, all bowties and SS emblem blacked out #2564 of 3168 for 2015, 1 of 273 PBM SS's ever produced, 1 of 77 in PBM with Tremec TR6060, #38 of 44 PBM as optioned Last edited by 15SUPERSPORT; 05-11-2016 at 05:54 PM.

05-11-2016, 05:00 PM	#356
Xmitterengineer Drives: 2014 LS2 Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: NC Posts: 28	Some very telling things from the OP's extensive write-up on this: 1. “no oil pressure shut down engine” was displayed upon starting the engine. 2. He "checked the oil level and it was full" This leaves a few obvious possibilities: 1. Oil pump failure. 2. Oil pressure sensor failure. 3. Massive internal oil leak. 4. Total obstruction in the lubrication system before the pressure sender. IMHO: None of the above scenarios could be caused by a catch can. Even a gross leak or blockage in the PCV system would not produce any of these results. Good luck to the OP.

05-11-2016, 05:40 PM	#360
Superman09 Account SNAFU Drives: 13 Tahoe 79 Scout II 15 1LE Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: College Station, TX Posts: 1,356 View My Garage	My apologies for not updating y'all. I was up for ~40 hours straight from Sunday through Monday evening. I have been contacted by someone from GM and the situation is being investigated. I can't go into it much more than that other than to say a HUGE thank you to everyone in here for signing the petition and for the support and encouragement. Still don't have an answer but apparently we have been heard. Keep pushing the petition and I will update again when I can. Sent from my campfire using smoke signals

05-11-2016, 06:17 PM	#364
Ewey Drives: 2013 Camaro SS 6 speed black Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Tampa FL Posts: 152 View My Garage	Signed