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motorhead · 05-13-2016, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by jd10013

I think one of the lessons here is if you do have a warranty issue, return your car to stock before you take it in to a dealership to look at it.

No. The lesson is not to mod any car under warranty unless you don't care about the warranty.

All of the companies are trying to escape responsibility for their inferior products and a mod gives them what they need to do just that. Warranties are becoming a joke.

Bad@ssCamaro · 05-14-2016, 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by adiesso

My 2015 came with the catch can from GM in a box in my trunk! I just had it installed with CAI. Now im worried

Not to worry, the one in your trunk is for the "clean" side of the PVC system.. The one at issue is for the "dirty" side catch can that goes back into the intake.

Pete G · 05-14-2016, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Moto-Mojo

Except that it ranges from, 'yer fooked' to 'quit whining and fix it yourself' to 'man up and lawyer up' to 'petition GM' to 'picket the GM dealer' to 'you'll spend more fighting it than fixing it' to 'a forum coalition' that will hit 'em the pocketbook.

So, which of that "good advice" is it?

Sorry for posting without reading to the end yet BUT

I have never seen such contradictory advice as what has been given here.
Good Luck OP sorry you have to deal with this !!!

95birdible · 05-14-2016, 09:16 AM

Shared in my Camaro Convertible Problems Facebook group.

Scottiemac · 05-15-2016, 09:15 AM

What happened with the petition? I received a msg saying it was canceled. Did this help or hurt the OP? Would sure like to know the details.

*mlee* · 05-15-2016, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Scottiemac

What happened with the petition? I received a msg saying it was canceled. Did this help or hurt the OP? Would sure like to know the details.

I'll try and briefly explain from my vantage point. In the past there have been all out media blasts where the person was not truly on the up and up. This absolutely is not the case here as we all know. But when it pops up like this, all sorts of red flags come up and the folks we escalate this too end up on the defense right off the bat. Rightfully so.

In all reality John needed help and got that from an awesome Camaro community. It's in fact been a bit overwhelming. Thank you all and especially Stacy for helping my good friend. So the petition simply ran it's course and time is needed to sort things out now.

DonM · 05-15-2016, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by mlee

I'll try and briefly explain from my vantage point. In the past there have been all out media blasts where the person was not truly on the up and up. This absolutely is not the case here as we all know. But when it pops up like this, all sorts of red flags come up and the folks we escalate this too end up on the defense right off the bat. Rightfully so.

In all reality John needed help and got that from an awesome Camaro community. It's in fact been a bit overwhelming. Thank you all and especially Stacy for helping my good friend. So the petition simply ran it's course and time is needed to sort things out now.

So we got their attention and now the ball is in their court?

*mlee* · 05-15-2016, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by DonM

So we got their attention and now the ball is in their court?

Yes we definitely got everyone's attention. Maybe too many. Not sure about the ball though. The company line is still, no mods if you want the warranty coverage.

Scottiemac · 05-15-2016, 10:18 AM

Thanks for the heads up mlee,hope things work out for him. This is also important to all of us. We need to know if they're going to stand firm on the no mod policy. I have been told by many that "this" or "that" mod won't affect your warranty. I'm not too happy that my new Impala powertrain is now 5-60 instead of my 2015 SS that was the 5yr-100,000 mi. I have had nothing but good service from GM with warranty issues in the past.

HELLsx · 05-15-2016, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by mlee

Yes we definitely got everyone's attention. Maybe too many. Not sure about the ball though. The company line is still, no mods if you want the warranty coverage.

The line they should understand is, "he didnt MOD his car for more performance" , he did what he tought would/ could HELP keep his engine in its best shape, clean and also help it live longer!! There is also the fact that they didnt look into the problem's provenance BEFORE (wrongfully on top of things!!) accusing his actions...

But did the petition ran out by itself? Is that what im understanding? What... After you reach 500 it lives a bit then falls off?? Was someone made aware of this before it ran out? Just making sure we dont miss our on somtin'........

Hopefully this horror story ends how it should... With the good guy NOT beeing penalized.

HELLsx
The guy that now drives his Camaro with Both eyes on the oil pressure gauge!!!

bobby35ny · 05-15-2016, 11:15 AM

I know how this will go.....

They will goodwill him the engine repair, BUT if you THINK GM is going to say, because of this you guys can run Catch Cans, HELL NO!!!

Consider a CC like a tune, warranty OVER.

-Bobby

Chevy Fanatic · 05-15-2016, 11:37 AM

Is anyone else as confused as I am on the outcome of this issue? I have read a couple posts by those heavily involved in this and it appears they are saying GM is correct in their position of no warranty for the oil pump failure, its over and the OP has a paperweight in his driveway?

Taken straight off of the FTC website "The FTC says the manufacturer or dealer must show that the aftermarket or recycled part caused the need for repairs before denying warranty coverage"

In this case was the OP shown the connection to a known oil pump failure / problem and how his catch can directly contributed to the failure? What am I missing here?

Camaro Dude · 05-15-2016, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by jd10013

I think one of the lessons here is if you do have a warranty issue, return your car to stock before you take it in to a dealership to look at it.

Yup.

Unless the ECU was tuned of course, then they will know. Removing catch can, and going back to stock, agree with you 100%.

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Originally Posted by motorhead

No. The lesson is not to mod any car under warranty unless you don't care about the warranty.

Perhaps....I mean, yes, it would be foolish to mod your 3-4 year lease, that you know that you will be returning for a trade-in anyways.

Perhaps this is where GM is throwing in their cards. These type of people who thrive on credit, to keep the ball rolling. I hate to say it, but many on here fall into the category of trading in ASAP, and hopping on a new car bandwagon, mods or not. I can see how returning a lease to a 2nd owner, with things like catch cans still in place, being a headache for the Pre-Owned used car certification. Correct me if I'm wrong?

Having said that, they won't know squat, if you keep your stock rubber hoses in the glove box, and revert back to stock, from something like a catch-can installation. I can see many now resorting to this unfortunate strategy, in light of all that has transpired in the last few days.

I can revert back to stock in under 25 minutes

. Sadly, this will be the status quo, and one which will work well for the end user, until logic and honesty prevails.

*mlee* · 05-15-2016, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by HELLsx

But did the petition ran out by itself? Is that what im understanding? What... After you reach 500 it lives a bit then falls off?? Was someone made aware of this before it ran out? Just making sure we dont miss our on somtin'........

It was shut down by the person who started it. It's original purpose is done.

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Originally Posted by bobby35ny

I know how this will go.....

They will goodwill him the engine repair, BUT if you THINK GM is going to say, because of this you guys can run Catch Cans, HELL NO!!!

Consider a CC like a tune, warranty OVER.

-Bobby

That would be a best case scenario at this point and true.

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Chevy Fanatic Drives: 2011 2SS/RS IOM/PEARL STRIPES-6M Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: DFW Posts: 151	Is anyone else as confused as I am on the outcome of this issue? I have read a couple posts by those heavily involved in this and it appears they are saying GM is correct in their position of no warranty for the oil pump failure, its over and the OP has a paperweight in his driveway? Taken straight off of the FTC website "The FTC says the manufacturer or dealer must show that the aftermarket or recycled part caused the need for repairs before denying warranty coverage" In this case was the OP shown the connection to a known oil pump failure / problem and how his catch can directly contributed to the failure? What am I missing here? __________________ Whipple S/C, 3.750 pulley, JRE rough idle blower cam kit, Trunion upgrade, C5R timing chain, LS2 chain dampner, Melling 10296, Dynatech 1 7/8 LT headers, OR pipes, Dual valve RX catch can, ID 850 Injectors, LPE Dual fuel pump, CAI with Apex scoop, VMax ported T/B, ADM Tune 675 RWHP 560 TQ Last edited by Chevy Fanatic; 05-15-2016 at 11:49 AM.

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Scottiemac Drives: Black 2015 1ss/rs Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 354	What happened with the petition? I received a msg saying it was canceled. Did this help or hurt the OP? Would sure like to know the details.

05-15-2016, 10:18 AM	#401
Scottiemac Drives: Black 2015 1ss/rs Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 354	Thanks for the heads up mlee,hope things work out for him. This is also important to all of us. We need to know if they're going to stand firm on the no mod policy. I have been told by many that "this" or "that" mod won't affect your warranty. I'm not too happy that my new Impala powertrain is now 5-60 instead of my 2015 SS that was the 5yr-100,000 mi. I have had nothing but good service from GM with warranty issues in the past.