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Bodywerks · 05-31-2016, 10:22 AM

Not needed, but to do it 'right'.
I'll probably hold off on the rear end, as I don't intend to drag race.
I want the boost controller for torque management, and also to drop the boost/hp for daily 'spirited' driving.

dreksnot · 05-31-2016, 12:13 PM

My stock clutch lasted me two years; one spirited daily driving then I discovered the drag strip. Lasted one season of that. Stock differential did fine but swapped that out when I upped the clutch figuring of break stuff. I have the sleeves bearings. Spool plenty fast.

dreksnot · 05-31-2016, 12:40 PM

Boost controller is handy for switching from street to strip. Not necessary if only streeting the car. Spring pressure of 8# will cover street all too well but be prepared to buy new tires on a shorter periodicity basis.

white1LE · 05-31-2016, 01:28 PM

True! I ordered another pair because they were $220 each on closeout. don't need them yet but will in a couple months or depending how hard Andy is on them during tuning, which I'm sure can't be helped. Lol

Bodywerks · 05-31-2016, 04:08 PM

I'll be honest, I'm new to forced induction. My understanding is you can essentially control the torque curve with a boost controller. Or is there more to it than that? I assume a modified waste gate of sorts would be needed?

Bodywerks · 05-31-2016, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by dreksnot

My stock clutch lasted me two years; one spirited daily driving then I discovered the drag strip. Lasted one season of that. Stock differential did fine but swapped that out when I upped the clutch figuring of break stuff. I have the sleeves bearings. Spool plenty fast.

Did your clutch hold on the dyno?

dreksnot · 05-31-2016, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Bodywerks

Did your clutch hold on the dyno?

Yes. Stock clutch held on the dyno okay.

Unreal · 05-31-2016, 08:14 PM

No mods to wastegates needed.

You can run a $50 boost controller, not a $300 one.

Stock clutch can last a long time at 600-650rwhp if you don't put a sticky drag radial on, or try to launch it.

1KillerSS · 05-31-2016, 09:28 PM

Horsepower will always find the weakest link. Either do the mods now or later. I did mine a little at a time. As for the clutch, I would recommend you go to a triple. Once you realize how easy it is to just turn up the boost, you will be doing just that, turning up the boost!

I paid 1300 for my ZL1 rear end, used with 10k miles on it, and that was shipped. Did DSS 1000hp axles, aluminum driveshaft, solid subframe bushings, and differential offset bushings. in total i have less than 4 grand in it all. Also did trailing arms, and toe rods.

My AEM TruBoost was less than 300, but thats not something you need to do right from the get go. same with the drivetrain mods, I would do the clutch sooner rather than later, but others have had some longevity out of the stock clutch.

Check out my build thread, and fee free to PM me about any questions with pricing or whatever. I had a lot more typed out for a reply on this thread, but I accidentally closed out the window, and lost all of my post. So this is the short version.

Bodywerks · 05-31-2016, 09:43 PM

Haha! Had to type twice, too cuz internet went out. Friggin technology...
Thanks for the response. Pretty sure I'll do the e85 conversion and bushings/trailing arms this summer, then turbo, then start replacing shit as it breaks, lol!

Unreal · 05-31-2016, 10:36 PM

GFB is a better controller than AEM.

There is a big difference between want, need, and extra features. You can have a $60 boost controller or a $1000 boost controller. Just depends on features you want.

dreksnot · 06-02-2016, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by dreksnot

I plan on going to the strip Wed to see how the new Monster Triple does, weather permitting. It seems to release fine at high RPMs on the street, but need to see how it releases after getting toasty hot doing strip stuff. I'll report back.

FWIW, Monster Triple held and released fine. Only had six runs at the strip though.

Bodywerks · 06-03-2016, 07:31 PM

Cool. Not sure if I'll go monster or mantic

Yeager1990 · 06-04-2016, 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by 1KillerSS

Horsepower will always find the weakest link. Either do the mods now or later. I did mine a little at a time. As for the clutch, I would recommend you go to a triple. Once you realize how easy it is to just turn up the boost, you will be doing just that, turning up the boost!

I paid 1300 for my ZL1 rear end, used with 10k miles on it, and that was shipped. Did DSS 1000hp axles, aluminum driveshaft, solid subframe bushings, and differential offset bushings. in total i have less than 4 grand in it all. Also did trailing arms, and toe rods.

My AEM TruBoost was less than 300, but thats not something you need to do right from the get go. same with the drivetrain mods, I would do the clutch sooner rather than later, but others have had some longevity out of the stock clutch.

Check out my build thread, and fee free to PM me about any questions with pricing or whatever. I had a lot more typed out for a reply on this thread, but I accidentally closed out the window, and lost all of my post. So this is the short version.

I'm looking for a zl1 trans and rear end if you know where to get one for a good deal

05-31-2016, 10:22 AM	#15
Bodywerks Drives: 2015 2SS/RS/1LE Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Tucson Posts: 866	Not needed, but to do it 'right'. I'll probably hold off on the rear end, as I don't intend to drag race. I want the boost controller for torque management, and also to drop the boost/hp for daily 'spirited' driving. __________________ 2015 SS/RS/1LE HSA delete, VMAX throttle body, CAI inc. Intake, PRC255 heads, BTR 660 springs, BTR cryo-treated rockers, PAT G 232/240 .654/.626 110+2, johnson 2110's, Manton 502 pushrods, C5R, Melling high volume/high pressure, Powerbond 25% underdrive pulley, Proform covers, Kooks stepped headers, catless mids, Doug Thorley exhaust. 512rwhp, 446rwtq on a mustang dyno, tuned by Cunningham motorsports.

05-31-2016, 12:13 PM	#16
dreksnot Served USN - Atomic Chimp Drives: 2021 Camaro ZL1 1LE A10 (stock) Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Fort Collins, CO Posts: 1,619 View My Garage	My stock clutch lasted me two years; one spirited daily driving then I discovered the drag strip. Lasted one season of that. Stock differential did fine but swapped that out when I upped the clutch figuring of break stuff. I have the sleeves bearings. Spool plenty fast. __________________ In excess of 1,000WHP LSX434 \| AGP 65/65 TT \| BTR Equalizer Intake \| Trickflow 245cc cathedral \| BTR custom cam \| Cortex EBC \| n2mb WOT \| ID-1700x \| Brisk GR12S \| RPM Lv 7 TR6060 \| AGP's Triple 525LPH Fore Fuel \| Monster LT1-S Triple \| 4.11 DSS Proform 9", CF driveshaft, 1400hp axles \| Hurst Line Lock \| MGW Retro Short Throw w/old skool Hurst T-handle \| ADM solid subframe mounts \| Prothane Motor Mounts \| Revshift Poly Trans insert \| Moreno camber/caster plates

05-31-2016, 12:40 PM	#17
dreksnot Served USN - Atomic Chimp Drives: 2021 Camaro ZL1 1LE A10 (stock) Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Fort Collins, CO Posts: 1,619 View My Garage	Boost controller is handy for switching from street to strip. Not necessary if only streeting the car. Spring pressure of 8# will cover street all too well but be prepared to buy new tires on a shorter periodicity basis. __________________ In excess of 1,000WHP LSX434 \| AGP 65/65 TT \| BTR Equalizer Intake \| Trickflow 245cc cathedral \| BTR custom cam \| Cortex EBC \| n2mb WOT \| ID-1700x \| Brisk GR12S \| RPM Lv 7 TR6060 \| AGP's Triple 525LPH Fore Fuel \| Monster LT1-S Triple \| 4.11 DSS Proform 9", CF driveshaft, 1400hp axles \| Hurst Line Lock \| MGW Retro Short Throw w/old skool Hurst T-handle \| ADM solid subframe mounts \| Prothane Motor Mounts \| Revshift Poly Trans insert \| Moreno camber/caster plates

05-31-2016, 01:28 PM	#18
white1LE Drives: 2013 Camaro ZL1 Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Dubuque, IA Posts: 880	True! I ordered another pair because they were $220 each on closeout. don't need them yet but will in a couple months or depending how hard Andy is on them during tuning, which I'm sure can't be helped. Lol __________________ 13 ZL1 A6 LSX 427 with AGP Twin Turbos, E85 and Flex Fuel. Built and tuned by ADM Performance 1000rwhp

05-31-2016, 04:08 PM	#19
Bodywerks Drives: 2015 2SS/RS/1LE Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Tucson Posts: 866	I'll be honest, I'm new to forced induction. My understanding is you can essentially control the torque curve with a boost controller. Or is there more to it than that? I assume a modified waste gate of sorts would be needed? __________________ 2015 SS/RS/1LE HSA delete, VMAX throttle body, CAI inc. Intake, PRC255 heads, BTR 660 springs, BTR cryo-treated rockers, PAT G 232/240 .654/.626 110+2, johnson 2110's, Manton 502 pushrods, C5R, Melling high volume/high pressure, Powerbond 25% underdrive pulley, Proform covers, Kooks stepped headers, catless mids, Doug Thorley exhaust. 512rwhp, 446rwtq on a mustang dyno, tuned by Cunningham motorsports.

05-31-2016, 08:14 PM	#22
Unreal Drives: 2006 Z06 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Gilbert, AZ Posts: 5,712	No mods to wastegates needed. You can run a $50 boost controller, not a $300 one. Stock clutch can last a long time at 600-650rwhp if you don't put a sticky drag radial on, or try to launch it. __________________ Nick Corvette Z06 -1200ish rwhp

05-31-2016, 09:28 PM	#23
1KillerSS Too much is never enough! Drives: AGP TT SS [COTW] 4/20/15 Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Toledo,OH Posts: 4,149 View My Garage	Horsepower will always find the weakest link. Either do the mods now or later. I did mine a little at a time. As for the clutch, I would recommend you go to a triple. Once you realize how easy it is to just turn up the boost, you will be doing just that, turning up the boost! I paid 1300 for my ZL1 rear end, used with 10k miles on it, and that was shipped. Did DSS 1000hp axles, aluminum driveshaft, solid subframe bushings, and differential offset bushings. in total i have less than 4 grand in it all. Also did trailing arms, and toe rods. My AEM TruBoost was less than 300, but thats not something you need to do right from the get go. same with the drivetrain mods, I would do the clutch sooner rather than later, but others have had some longevity out of the stock clutch. Check out my build thread, and fee free to PM me about any questions with pricing or whatever. I had a lot more typed out for a reply on this thread, but I accidentally closed out the window, and lost all of my post. So this is the short version. __________________ AGP TT kit, 54/57 Forged rotating assembly, Custom grind cam... Dual nozzle meth, ID850's, Livernois dual fuel pumps, ECS BAP, 25% UDP, 3 inch Magnaflow catback with X pipe, Mantic 9000 clutch, DSS 1000hp axles, DSS aluminum driveshaft, ZL1 rear end, solid subframe bushings, HE differential offset bushings, BMR Trailing arm, BMR toe rods, Lingenfelter LNC-2000,SJM Line Lock. 747 whp 714wtq *Build thread* http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...55#post8107855

05-31-2016, 09:43 PM	#24
Bodywerks Drives: 2015 2SS/RS/1LE Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Tucson Posts: 866	Haha! Had to type twice, too cuz internet went out. Friggin technology... Thanks for the response. Pretty sure I'll do the e85 conversion and bushings/trailing arms this summer, then turbo, then start replacing shit as it breaks, lol! __________________ 2015 SS/RS/1LE HSA delete, VMAX throttle body, CAI inc. Intake, PRC255 heads, BTR 660 springs, BTR cryo-treated rockers, PAT G 232/240 .654/.626 110+2, johnson 2110's, Manton 502 pushrods, C5R, Melling high volume/high pressure, Powerbond 25% underdrive pulley, Proform covers, Kooks stepped headers, catless mids, Doug Thorley exhaust. 512rwhp, 446rwtq on a mustang dyno, tuned by Cunningham motorsports.

05-31-2016, 10:36 PM	#25
Unreal Drives: 2006 Z06 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Gilbert, AZ Posts: 5,712	GFB is a better controller than AEM. There is a big difference between want, need, and extra features. You can have a $60 boost controller or a $1000 boost controller. Just depends on features you want. __________________ Nick Corvette Z06 -1200ish rwhp

06-03-2016, 07:31 PM	#27
Bodywerks Drives: 2015 2SS/RS/1LE Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Tucson Posts: 866	Cool. Not sure if I'll go monster or mantic __________________ 2015 SS/RS/1LE HSA delete, VMAX throttle body, CAI inc. Intake, PRC255 heads, BTR 660 springs, BTR cryo-treated rockers, PAT G 232/240 .654/.626 110+2, johnson 2110's, Manton 502 pushrods, C5R, Melling high volume/high pressure, Powerbond 25% underdrive pulley, Proform covers, Kooks stepped headers, catless mids, Doug Thorley exhaust. 512rwhp, 446rwtq on a mustang dyno, tuned by Cunningham motorsports.