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Rob@WretchedMS · 09-12-2009, 03:12 PM

Come out and see Justice Pete from Pedders at Backstreet Performance today, 650 W. Smith Rd, Medina, OH 330-764-1923.

They will be finishing up the exhaust and dyno tuning the Pedders Camaro. Stop by and see the Pedders Camaro and the new revolution hood.

Installing Coolers for the Pedders Camaro. Next will be a tune. Then we should be at the Camaro show at Summit on Sunday.

Kyle2k · 09-12-2009, 06:52 PM

All those coolers look kind of goofy (and yes I know they are necessary and functional- I swear to God if someone quotes me about that I will rip your trachea out). What are the two smaller ones for?

mike25 · 09-12-2009, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Kyle2k

All those coolers look kind of goofy (and yes I know they are necessary and functional- I swear to God if someone quotes me about that I will rip your trachea out). What are the two smaller ones for?

uh they might look dumb but the serve a purpose...i mean seriously?

I bet right now your thinking what the **** i can believe this guy..if you cant see this then you really are a newb.

Kyle2k · 09-13-2009, 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by mike25

uh they might look dumb but the serve a purpose...i mean seriously?

I bet right now your thinking what the **** i can believe this guy..if you cant see this then you really are a newb.

Just about as newb as someone that joined a month ago and starts trying to hide messages....been there, done that....

So what are the smaller coolers for? Oil and transmission?

mike25 · 09-14-2009, 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Kyle2k

Just about as newb as someone that joined a month ago and starts trying to hide messages....been there, done that....

So what are the smaller coolers for? Oil and transmission?

Haha..I've done that on forums for years..don't get butt hurt young one...

Kyle2k · 09-14-2009, 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by mike25

Haha..I've done that on forums for years..don't get butt hurt young one...

I'm not- quit trying to start something- do you know the answer to my original question?

Doc · 09-14-2009, 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Kyle2k

All those coolers look kind of goofy (and yes I know they are necessary and functional- I swear to God if someone quotes me about that I will rip your trachea out). What are the two smaller ones for?

Well there's always the standard goofy 3...radiator, trans and oil coolers.

*Milk 1027* · 09-14-2009, 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Doc

Well there's always the standard goofy 3...radiator, trans and oil coolers.

Yeah, That's what I'm guessing.

StrobinSS · 09-14-2009, 01:22 AM

Saw the car at Summit (looks even better in person) and they said they just recently added an oil cooler and power steering fluid cooler (correct me if I heard wrong)

mike25 · 09-14-2009, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Kyle2k

I'm not- quit trying to start something- do you know the answer to my original question?

lol probably oil, water to air(air to water or however its said) and transmission.

Kyle2k · 09-14-2009, 01:06 PM

I guess I'm just curious because they seem to be aftermarket, and if that IS the case....where can we get these kits

?

2SSRS@Gen5diy · 09-14-2009, 02:42 PM

It looks like he add a oil and trans and for the mag or what have you a air cooler

JusticePete · 09-15-2009, 02:05 PM

The large lower unit is the inter-cooler, the small two line cooler mounted to it i a supplemental power steering cooler and the large upper engine oil cooler is fed by -12 lines. This is a robust installation more typical of a race car than a street car. We felt it was required because of the abuse the car receives as we validate different suspension components.

The Pedders USA Camaro is ProCharged. Having observed several different FI vehicles on the track I can safely say that engine oil temps exceed 300 degrees in as little as three hot laps. The factory cooler may be adequate for factory HP, but it is too small for a FI engine making more than 500 RWHP.

GM did a spectacular job with the integration of the power steering cooler into the AC condenser. If you take a really close look at your AC condenser you will notice the lower three veins are thicker than the rest of the unit. Those three veins are the PS cooler. We run 19 x 10.5 rims with 305/30 rubber all the way around. Our concern is that the increased load on the rack and pump will raise the temperature to unacceptable levels. Our solution is to run our cooler in series with the OEM cooler.

The installation of the coolers was complicated by the ProCharger inter-cooler. We had to aluminum weld brackets on all three: Oil, PS and ProCharger. Running the lines was another challenge. Plastic tie wraps fail over time from heat and wear. We wanted a more robust installation without a single tie wrap. Eric from Backstreet installed Adel Clamps with hardware to bolt them to solid members of the vehicle. Eric went so far as to install a check valve in the oil cooler to make certain the oil would not drain out of the cooler and back into the oil pan. He did a race-ready installation that is next to perfect. That is a problem at Backstreet that I tell them about every time I schedule work there. I only pay for excellent and they perform perfect. It is bad for their profit margin, but great for the consumer and Backstreet's reputation. Thanks to Backstreet, the Pedders USA Camaro is now ready for a track session with a couple of magazines and unlimited testing.

John Buttermore Jr. has run a 1:27.53 in practice at Gingerman in his C6 T1 SCCA Vette. That is a bit better than the Race Lap Record in T1 of 1.27.62. I wonder could a Pedderised Camaro run BETTER lap times with four people in the car? Maybe with a race car driver like Stan Wilson or Chris Brannon, myself and two lovely ladies? A typical night on the town passenger load for a 2010 Pedderised Camaro DAILY DRIVER against a RACE READY, lightened, caged FULL RACE Vette on race slicks with only a driver... Could it beat the fastest time on record for a Vette? Nah, no one would be foolish enough to try that... would they????

If some one were to take a run at that they would need serious oil coolers, great suspension, strong RWHP, light weight wheels, sticky street tires and great brake pads.

RBD · 09-15-2009, 04:04 PM

If anybody can do it Pete, you can. The car looks great and capable !

09-12-2009, 03:12 PM	#1
Rob@WretchedMS Drives: His Wife Crazy Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Silas Deane Auto,CT Name: Rob Anderson Posts: 1,789	Justice Pete at Backstreet Performance today Come out and see Justice Pete from Pedders at Backstreet Performance today, 650 W. Smith Rd, Medina, OH 330-764-1923. They will be finishing up the exhaust and dyno tuning the Pedders Camaro. Stop by and see the Pedders Camaro and the new revolution hood. Installing Coolers for the Pedders Camaro. Next will be a tune. Then we should be at the Camaro show at Summit on Sunday.

09-12-2009, 06:52 PM	#2
Kyle2k LVL 50 Troll Stomper Drives: 2010 Camaro Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 3,463	All those coolers look kind of goofy (and yes I know they are necessary and functional- I swear to God if someone quotes me about that I will rip your trachea out). What are the two smaller ones for? __________________

09-14-2009, 01:06 PM	#11
Kyle2k LVL 50 Troll Stomper Drives: 2010 Camaro Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 3,463	I guess I'm just curious because they seem to be aftermarket, and if that IS the case....where can we get these kits ? __________________

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JusticePete Drives: Camaro Justice Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 20,171	The large lower unit is the inter-cooler, the small two line cooler mounted to it i a supplemental power steering cooler and the large upper engine oil cooler is fed by -12 lines. This is a robust installation more typical of a race car than a street car. We felt it was required because of the abuse the car receives as we validate different suspension components. The Pedders USA Camaro is ProCharged. Having observed several different FI vehicles on the track I can safely say that engine oil temps exceed 300 degrees in as little as three hot laps. The factory cooler may be adequate for factory HP, but it is too small for a FI engine making more than 500 RWHP. GM did a spectacular job with the integration of the power steering cooler into the AC condenser. If you take a really close look at your AC condenser you will notice the lower three veins are thicker than the rest of the unit. Those three veins are the PS cooler. We run 19 x 10.5 rims with 305/30 rubber all the way around. Our concern is that the increased load on the rack and pump will raise the temperature to unacceptable levels. Our solution is to run our cooler in series with the OEM cooler. The installation of the coolers was complicated by the ProCharger inter-cooler. We had to aluminum weld brackets on all three: Oil, PS and ProCharger. Running the lines was another challenge. Plastic tie wraps fail over time from heat and wear. We wanted a more robust installation without a single tie wrap. Eric from Backstreet installed Adel Clamps with hardware to bolt them to solid members of the vehicle. Eric went so far as to install a check valve in the oil cooler to make certain the oil would not drain out of the cooler and back into the oil pan. He did a race-ready installation that is next to perfect. That is a problem at Backstreet that I tell them about every time I schedule work there. I only pay for excellent and they perform perfect. It is bad for their profit margin, but great for the consumer and Backstreet's reputation. Thanks to Backstreet, the Pedders USA Camaro is now ready for a track session with a couple of magazines and unlimited testing. John Buttermore Jr. has run a 1:27.53 in practice at Gingerman in his C6 T1 SCCA Vette. That is a bit better than the Race Lap Record in T1 of 1.27.62. I wonder could a Pedderised Camaro run BETTER lap times with four people in the car? Maybe with a race car driver like Stan Wilson or Chris Brannon, myself and two lovely ladies? A typical night on the town passenger load for a 2010 Pedderised Camaro DAILY DRIVER against a RACE READY, lightened, caged FULL RACE Vette on race slicks with only a driver... Could it beat the fastest time on record for a Vette? Nah, no one would be foolish enough to try that... would they???? If some one were to take a run at that they would need serious oil coolers, great suspension, strong RWHP, light weight wheels, sticky street tires and great brake pads.

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RBD Drives: 2013 SS/RS Convertible Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Mendota, IL Posts: 715 View My Garage	If anybody can do it Pete, you can. The car looks great and capable !