2011 Camaro SS vs 2013 C63 AMG

[Freddy G]

Originally Posted by swiftkart

Not even close, the fast list you are referring to the L99 have every bolt on they can think of to run those time, headers, CAI, DR, slicks, converters, Tune, gears and I'm sure weight reductions, etc...and good air times, a simple bolt on L99 with street tires will not out run a c63 with street tires, the c63 here run low 12's to high 11's same day same track while bolt on L99 run high 12's and the thing is, the c63 can do it on street tires due to their launch control system.

Bolt-on L99 run low-high 11s - Mid 12s. That's why I said with sticky tires(DRs) to begin with. Said "bolt-on" includes LT, CAI, tune, Converter and DRs. As of weight reduction I can't assume. I would say it all comes down to driver, C63 has dual-clutch thats an advantage for sure.

[DOC52]

Originally Posted by Freddy G

Bolt-on L99 run low-high 11s - Mid 12s. That's why I said with sticky tires(DRs) to begin with. Said "bolt-on" includes LT, CAI, tune, Converter and DRs. As of weight reduction I can't assume. I would say it all comes down to driver, C63 has dual-clutch thats an advantage for sure.

OP never mentioned a converter, an aggressive converter accounts for around .5 in the 1/4 and most the cars you're comparing are on slicks with weight reduction and highly experienced racers.

Love your amg facts too, 400 and some change lol it makes 451 hp with 443 ft/tq, and it weighs a ton with no grip? A C63 amg's curb weight 3,649 lbs, thats 211 lbs lighter than the camaro ss... (3860 lbs). But you must know your stuff seems like you race a lot. A Camaro with LTs, CAI and tune will not out run a newer stock C63 amg lol.

[L99CAMA2011]

Originally Posted by Freddy G

Bolt-on L99 run low-high 11s - Mid 12s. That's why I said with sticky tires(DRs) to begin with. Said "bolt-on" includes LT, CAI, tune, Converter and DRs. As of weight reduction I can't assume. I would say it all comes down to driver, C63 has dual-clutch thats an advantage for sure.
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Don't look right. Bolt on L99s and LS3s without cam upgrades are running cammed Camaro times, WOW.

[Freddy G]

Originally Posted by DOC52

OP never mentioned a converter, an aggressive converter accounts for around .5 in the 1/4 and most the cars you're comparing are on slicks with weight reduction and highly experienced racers.

Love your amg facts too, 400 and some change lol it makes 451 hp with 443 ft/tq, and it weighs a ton with no grip? A C63 amg's curb weight 3,649 lbs, thats 211 lbs lighter than the camaro ss... (3860 lbs). But you must know your stuff seems like you race a lot. A Camaro with LTs, CAI and tune will not out run a newer stock C63 amg lol.

Lol, did you not look at #25 on that list? 12.2 isn't that bad, yet I couldn't find any stock c63 doing that time. Also like I care about what they say how much power they make on crank, thats just to fool those dumb azz merc buyers. its all about how much on the wheel. 360 vs 390 on LS3? Pff, what a joke.

[Freddy G]

Originally Posted by L99CAMA2011

Don't look right. Bolt on L99s and LS3s without cam upgrades are running cammed Camaro times, WOW.

Well, I dont think C5 fastlist would lie to us..at least i hope not.

[Snoman]

I've never had a problem walking AMG's, ever. You can get into this theory crap all day long and statistically speaking my two ton 400rwhp shouldn't stand a chance, but the fact is they are driven by housewives and guys with vijajas most of the time and on the rare occasion they weren't, I still edge them out. The only Mercs that laugh at me are the fabled black series, one off models and there is a new "S" variant AMG out there with 500+++ hp.

[L99CAMA2011]

Originally Posted by Snoman

I've never had a problem walking AMG's, ever. You can get into this theory crap all day long and statistically speaking my two ton 400rwhp shouldn't stand a chance, but the fact is they are driven by housewives and guys with vijajas most of the time and on the rare occasion they weren't, I still edge them out. The only Mercs that laugh at me are the fabled black series, one off models and there is a new "S" variant AMG out there with 500+++ hp.

WHAT. Stock gen 5s has nothing on C63 cars, nothing. A well driven C350 would give you a run for your money. My friend has one and I was pissed that it was almost as fast as my L99.

[DOC52]

Originally Posted by Freddy G

Lol, did you not look at #25 on that list? 12.2 isn't that bad, yet I couldn't find any stock c63 doing that time. Also like I care about what they say how much power they make on crank, thats just to fool those dumb azz merc buyers. its all about how much on the wheel. 360 vs 390 on LS3? Pff, what a joke.

Drag Racing isn't about horsepower, but efficency. Paper racing may be a hobby for you, but go to a track and see for yourself.

You can reference fast lists all you want, but a basic bolt on L99 with an average driver won't touch a stock C63 amg with an average driver lol.

[DOC52]

Originally Posted by Snoman

I've never had a problem walking AMG's, ever. You can get into this theory crap all day long and statistically speaking my two ton 400rwhp shouldn't stand a chance, but the fact is they are driven by housewives and guys with vijajas most of the time and on the rare occasion they weren't, I still edge them out. The only Mercs that laugh at me are the fabled black series, one off models and there is a new "S" variant AMG out there with 500+++ hp.

This is comical.

[Freddy G]

Originally Posted by DOC52

Drag Racing isn't about horsepower, but efficency. Paper racing may be a hobby for you, but go to a track and see for yourself.

You can reference fast lists all you want, but a basic bolt on L99 with an average driver won't touch a stock C63 amg with an average driver lol.

What kind of efficiency does it have when makes 451 on the crank but only transfer 360 to the wheel? PFFF. If I race that turd on paper, ill smoke it 1320. LMAO

[rontammy0]

Coulda ....shoulda......woulda. The fact a hell cat beat my bolt on l99 by 3/4 of a car makes every race a drivers race regardless of what your running. He needed a driver mod as most cars do.Run an AMG
then post the results. Racing isn't won or lost on the internet or on people's opinions. Just do it.

[Freddy G]

Originally Posted by rontammy0

Coulda ....shoulda......would. The fact a hell cat beat my bolt on l99 by 3/4 of a car makes every race a drivers race regardless of what your running. He needed a driver mod as most cars do.Run an AMG
then post the results. Racing isn't won or lost on the internet or on people's opinions. Just do it.

[L99CAMA2011]

Originally Posted by Freddy G

What kind of efficiency does it have when makes 451 on the crank but only transfer 360 to the wheel? PFFF. If I race that turd on paper, ill smoke it 1320. LMAO

That turd is Z28 territory. Also I am sure C63s don't put down 360 anything to the wheels. Why don't you run one from 100 to 150 mph.

[GossipSquirrelJelena]

Originally Posted by Freddy G

What kind of efficiency does it have when makes 451 on the crank but only transfer 360 to the wheel? PFFF. If I race that turd on paper, ill smoke it 1320. LMAO

People don't race on paper. They race at the drag strip. There isn't a car on earth. That starts with 450 Crank and dynos 360 wheel unless the dyno is broke!