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Number 3 · 07-31-2016, 09:32 AM

It may be a simple matter of 1) marketing and 2) durability concerns.

First, GM WANTS you to buy a ZL1 for $15,000 more, not buy the SS and add $2,500 in a calibration.

Second, without a hardware upgrade to the engine internals, a 40 or 50 HP bump will cause more engines to fail. Not a lot, but statistically more. I don't think GM pays money to give away free engine internals capable of HP increases. That being said, many people on this website have added forced induction to the LS3 and not blown things up. So GM may simply not want to do this for that reason alone. They did it with the 2.0T (not sure if it's still available) and maybe they had enough field evidence to not go this route.

But I agree this is something GM should tinker with.

2cnd chance · 07-31-2016, 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Number 3

It may be a simple matter of 1) marketing and 2) durability concerns.

First, GM WANTS you to buy a ZL1 for $15,000 more, not buy the SS and add $2,500 in a calibration.

Second, without a hardware upgrade to the engine internals, a 40 or 50 HP bump will cause more engines to fail. Not a lot, but statistically more. I don't think GM pays money to give away free engine internals capable of HP increases. That being said, many people on this website have added forced induction to the LS3 and not blown things up. So GM may simply not want to do this for that reason alone. They did it with the 2.0T (not sure if it's still available) and maybe they had enough field evidence to not go this route.

But I agree this is something GM should tinker with.

Yep. If your in business you have stay competitive. Especially with your #1 competitor.

2cnd chance · 08-02-2016, 09:59 PM

New ZR1? Could this hold a Z/28 powerplant?

http://www.autoblog.com/2016/08/02/c...#slide-4006411

BaylorCamaro · 08-02-2016, 10:13 PM

One could only hope!

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Bhobbs · 08-03-2016, 12:52 AM

I'm thinking it's the Z06 with the upgraded cooling. It makes no sense to throw more power at a chassis you already said was at the limit with 650 hp.

*DGthe3* · 08-03-2016, 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by 2cnd chance

New ZR1? Could this hold a Z/28 powerplant?

http://www.autoblog.com/2016/08/02/c...#slide-4006411

My guess is that car's hp figure starts with an 8 and middle number is less than 6. And not an engine for a Z/28

2cnd chance · 08-03-2016, 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bhobbs

I'm thinking it's the Z06 with the upgraded cooling. It makes no sense to throw more power at a chassis you already said was at the limit with 650 hp.

There's a new fascia, new taller hood, new wheels with blue calipers and signs of a rear wing. That's too many changes for it to be a Z06.

Number 3 · 08-04-2016, 09:50 PM

If the Z/28 has a ZR1 Powertrain then get ready for a price of significant size.

And if someone says it can only handle 650 HP............don't believe them.

Bhobbs · 08-05-2016, 03:56 PM

With the ZL1 info being released Monday, I bet a round of beer for the house that we see the Z/28 at the 50th.

*mlee* · 08-05-2016, 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bhobbs

With the ZL1 info being released Monday, I bet a round of beer for the house that we see the Z/28 at the 50th.

I'll take that bet...

*DGthe3* · 08-05-2016, 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bhobbs

With the ZL1 info being released Monday, I bet a round of beer for the house that we see the Z/28 at the 50th.

Thats a hollow bet if you're not going ...

But if you and the new Z/28 are there I will absolutely give you a beer.

Bhobbs · 08-05-2016, 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DGthe3

Thats a hollow bet if you're not going ...

But if you and the new Z/28 are there I will absolutely give you a beer.

I was trying to go but we got swamped at work. Any plans I had for taking time off were put on hold.

2cnd chance · 08-07-2016, 04:08 PM

I really really really really HATE Fox Sports!!!

No notice again on not broadcasting the Weathertech race as they've advertised. I don't have FS2 (not available).

Oh and what for? Woman's golf...really!

IMSA it's time to move on to another cable network!

Scarrzz · 08-08-2016, 06:52 PM

...and it's here

http://blog.caranddriver.com/zl1-der...t4-from-62135/

07-31-2016, 09:32 AM	#16759
Number 3 Hail to the King baby! Drives: '19 XT4 2.0T & '22 VW Atlas 2.0T Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Illinois Posts: 12,307 View My Garage	It may be a simple matter of 1) marketing and 2) durability concerns. First, GM WANTS you to buy a ZL1 for $15,000 more, not buy the SS and add $2,500 in a calibration. Second, without a hardware upgrade to the engine internals, a 40 or 50 HP bump will cause more engines to fail. Not a lot, but statistically more. I don't think GM pays money to give away free engine internals capable of HP increases. That being said, many people on this website have added forced induction to the LS3 and not blown things up. So GM may simply not want to do this for that reason alone. They did it with the 2.0T (not sure if it's still available) and maybe they had enough field evidence to not go this route. But I agree this is something GM should tinker with. __________________ "Speed, it seems to me, provides the one genuinely modern pleasure." - Aldous Huxley

08-02-2016, 09:59 PM	#16761
2cnd chance Too Many Great Choices Drives: Grand Sport/Z07 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: A Mountain Road Posts: 7,454	New ZR1? Could this hold a Z/28 powerplant? http://www.autoblog.com/2016/08/02/c...#slide-4006411 Attached Images __________________

08-02-2016, 10:13 PM	#16762
BaylorCamaro Track > 1/4 Mile Drives: 2016 C7 Z51 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: League City, TX Posts: 6,072 View My Garage	One could only hope! Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G930A using Tapatalk __________________ Automotive YouTube Channel / Texas World Speedway / MSR Houston

08-03-2016, 12:52 AM	#16763
Bhobbs Drives: 2015 SS 1LE Red Hot, 1970 Chevelle Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Chino, CA Posts: 6,990	I'm thinking it's the Z06 with the upgraded cooling. It makes no sense to throw more power at a chassis you already said was at the limit with 650 hp. __________________

08-04-2016, 09:50 PM	#16766
Number 3 Hail to the King baby! Drives: '19 XT4 2.0T & '22 VW Atlas 2.0T Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Illinois Posts: 12,307 View My Garage	If the Z/28 has a ZR1 Powertrain then get ready for a price of significant size. And if someone says it can only handle 650 HP............don't believe them. __________________ "Speed, it seems to me, provides the one genuinely modern pleasure." - Aldous Huxley

08-05-2016, 03:56 PM	#16767
Bhobbs Drives: 2015 SS 1LE Red Hot, 1970 Chevelle Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Chino, CA Posts: 6,990	With the ZL1 info being released Monday, I bet a round of beer for the house that we see the Z/28 at the 50th. __________________

08-07-2016, 04:08 PM	#16771
2cnd chance Too Many Great Choices Drives: Grand Sport/Z07 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: A Mountain Road Posts: 7,454	I really really really really HATE Fox Sports!!! No notice again on not broadcasting the Weathertech race as they've advertised. I don't have FS2 (not available). Oh and what for? Woman's golf...really! IMSA it's time to move on to another cable network! __________________

08-08-2016, 06:52 PM	#16772
Scarrzz No Fear-No Limits- Camaro Drives: '13 ZL1 or Suzuki Hayabusa Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Louisiana, CO, GA, TX, etc. Posts: 2,033 View My Garage	...and it's here http://blog.caranddriver.com/zl1-der...t4-from-62135/ __________________ . __________________________________ ................................................The Faithful are Watching.

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