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Old 09-15-2009, 10:03 AM   #29
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You can't win an argument with a cop on the side of the highway. The way that you re-act to the cop has a lot to do with the outcome of the stop. I once asked a cop how I could keep him from ticketing me and he told me three things,
1. Don't treat me like I'm stupid. (Why did you pull me over ossifer?) When you know that you were 25 mph over the limit.
2. Don't call me a liar. ("You were speeding". No, I wasn't ossifer.)
3. Don't disrespect me.( Do you know who I am? MY uncle will have your job for this.)
As far as the profiling goes, I know that when a cop sees my 2010 SS he will profile me. Of course he will. Wouldn't you? Do we buy the 6.2 liter V-8 to go slowly? You did a Bootlegger turn and you wonder why they stopped you? Some A-hole called the law on you and if they ignored the call and you were indeed drunk and killed someone, they would be in a world of trouble. I am not a cop. I am not defending the cops that stopped you. When I get pulled over, I do not speak unless spoken to. I do not deny what the cop accuses me of and I use the manners that I was taught as a child. I call the cop sir even though they are usually half my age and I have gotten all warnings and no citations since I was told those three things. Even when I was caught dead to right going 130 mph on a 1000 cc Ninja.
I wish the majoity of police would realize that respect is a 2 way street. I'll be as polite as the attitude given to me. However as most police prejudge on appearance I'm pretty much sol.
Unless its officer deporc, That guy threatened that something bad will happen to me in an ally one day with another cop witnessing. That guy gets a headbutt to the nose if he ever comes near me again. Maybe 4 or 5 successive ones.

And any good Samaritan following me better prepare for me defending myself. I don't care who you are, don't follow me unless you have a badge and a reason.

You could always call the cops on the cops. Thats always very entertaining. "Help, there's a freak with a gun!"
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Old 09-15-2009, 10:18 AM   #30
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I wish the majoity of police would realize that respect is a 2 way street. I'll be as polite as the attitude given to me.
However as most police prejudge on appearance I'm pretty much sol.
Unless its officer deporc, That guy threatened that something bad will happen to me in an ally one day with another cop witnessing. That guy gets a headbutt to the nose if he ever comes near me again. Maybe 4 or 5 successive ones.

And any good Samaritan following me better prepare for me defending myself. I don't care who you are, don't follow me unless you have a badge and a reason.

You could always call the cops on the cops. Thats always very entertaining. "Help, there's a freak with a gun!"
You know, cops feel the same way..... And arent you prejudging???
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Old 09-15-2009, 10:29 AM   #31
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Did I mention Robo Dike too? GOSH this cop chick seriously had the WORST attitude I've ever encountered! She seemed like the only thing she wanted to do was cause stress and give an impression of being the chief badass by responding to everything I said with a "Dont even try it; save it, we know what you were doing" or "DONT PUT YOUR HANDS IN YOUR POCKET" . They treated me like I was criminal who was on his way back from a bank robbery or something..
Let me tell you whats going here. The police officer doesn't know who you are, where you are coming from etc... All they know is what their dispatch is relaying to them. (This is what the guy behind you is telling them on the phone) The officer then has to determine what is going on by talking to you to get your side of what is going on.

The reason that the officer says don't put your hands in your pocket is because they don't know if you are armed or not. When you deal with complete strangers all the time, many of which are bad people and may try to do you harm, you take certain steps to ensure your safety. Cops have a duty to go home to their families at the end of their shift and they act accordingly.

If you think someone is following you, drive to the nearest police station. or an open store, or somewhere people are around.

Don't be doing accelaration runs in town. Your driving of speeding up and slowing down does look suspscious. And when you speed up and flip a u when the cops are there, of course you will get stopped.

Cops have an obligation to stop cars they get complaints on. If they let a drunk go and they get into a wreck, then it's somehow the cops fault for not stopping them.

As mentioned earlier, people today don't take any responsibility for their own actions. "It's not my fault for driving erratically and making the illegal u-turn, it's this lady cop's fault for being "mean" and giving me a ticket" You made the decision to drive like that, now accept the consequences of your behavior.
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Old 09-15-2009, 10:35 AM   #32
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Haha i have a story about police too. I recently got the Magnaflow Competition series axle-back put on the car, so the car is LOUD.
So the other night i was just cruzing around and i wasnt paying attention that i was going bit slower then the speed limit, so these kids behind me got over next to me started swearing at me. Well i punched it just to get ahead of them....right when i did that a cop went past me, and right when he saw/heard me he spun his ass around fast enough that i heard his tires sqealing. So now he's following me and i'm FREAKING OUT. I already had been pulled over in my other car twice so one more ticket and my license is gone. He follows me until we get to a red light were he gets in the other lane, rolls down his window, and says "nice car" The light turned green and he turned off. My mouth droped and i just couldn't belive that i got away with it! i had to have been speeding when he caught me in the act. I went home right away, i didn't want to jinx anything.
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Old 09-15-2009, 10:47 AM   #33
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You know, cops feel the same way..... And arent you prejudging???
What comes first...the chicken or the egg?

I'm seriously convinced it doesn't make an ounce of difference how I react/behave towards the officer as to whether I get to drive away with a warning or a ticket...that's all determined before he/she gets to my window. I'm normally a very nice guy to cops...their job has to suck most of the time dealing with excuses, blame, whining, cussing, and the downright worst of people. The only time I get a bit testy is when I know 100% that I wasn't doing what they claim I was doing (has happened twice on speeding tickets), or when they treat me like an incompetent. No matter the approach, I've gotten tickets being a nice guy, and gotten off with warning when being a dick, and vice-versa.

I have a poor driving record (over a dozen speeding tickets in the past 7 years, but nothing else...no running red lights or stop signs, no DUI's, no accidents, etc)...so I likely don't deserve much "benefit of the doubt"...and I certainly don't enter a conversation expecting it. But for those who claim that the way you treat the cop will determine your fate...I guess my experience just hasn't seen that to be true. Most of the officers who I've interacted with seem predisposed to the result before the first words are spoken - whatever that result may be - and little that I do will influence that one way or another.
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Old 09-15-2009, 10:53 AM   #34
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The first thing I did was call my dad about it; cause he's really smart about situations like this. Now that I think about it though I shoulda called the emergency button or 911 :\ i woulda got out of this "traffic violation". I wonder if i can fight it? I made an illegal u-turn to save my life from this potential killer u know?
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Old 09-15-2009, 10:53 AM   #35
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What comes first...the chicken or the egg?

I'm seriously convinced it doesn't make an ounce of difference how I react/behave towards the officer as to whether I get to drive away with a warning or a ticket...that's all determined before he/she gets to my window. I'm normally a very nice guy to cops...their job has to suck most of the time dealing with excuses, blame, whining, cussing, and the downright worst of people. The only time I get a bit testy is when I know 100% that I wasn't doing what they claim I was doing (has happened twice on speeding tickets), or when they treat me like an incompetent. No matter the approach, I've gotten tickets being a nice guy, and gotten off with warning when being a dick, and vice-versa.

I have a poor driving record (over a dozen speeding tickets in the past 7 years, but nothing else...no running red lights or stop signs, no DUI's, no accidents, etc)...so I likely don't deserve much "benefit of the doubt"...and I certainly don't enter a conversation expecting it. But for those who claim that the way you treat the cop will determine your fate...I guess my experience just hasn't seen that to be true. Most of the officers who I've interacted with seem predisposed to the result before the first words are spoken - whatever that result may be - and little that I do will influence that one way or another.

LOL..... You do realize they have already run your plates before stopping you don't you..... They know you have a history, therefore you are a marked and well deserved man.....
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Old 09-15-2009, 10:57 AM   #36
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Yeah since cops always get shot making traffic stops.
It's hard to tell if you're being sincere or sarcastic with that. But just in case people think it never happens, just google, "cop gets shot at traffic stop". Unfortunately it happens a lot.
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Old 09-15-2009, 11:00 AM   #37
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I don't know how you didn't see it was a cop when you did a u turn. You should have pulled over right then, rather than accelerate away. They like to drive fast and the chance of a high speed pursuit with a pit maneuver would make their day. Be careful out there.
It was late at night and I didnt even see the cop; he was way down the road waiting for me (the guy following me was on the phone with the cop i assume) and I ripped the wheel so I could get away from the guy u know? I didnt even know he was calling me in ona possible drunk driver.. This guy was following me for like 30 mins! every turn... I even stopped in the middle of the road and he stopped behind me. this guy was freakin me out; i wanted to get on the highway and lose him but didnt want to get a speeding ticket! now i have to deal with this dumb u-turn citation
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Old 09-15-2009, 11:00 AM   #38
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I'm from Lafayette, I remember when I was growing up there were so few cops that we knew them all. ( I was a trouble maker ), now when I go back it seems like the biggest employers are the school systems, the hospitals & the cops, they are everywhere. But the food is good & most of the womens are hot.
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Old 09-15-2009, 11:02 AM   #39
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If I was you I would have taken mental notes on the guys car and did the same thingto him. I hate effin people that can't mind their own business
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What comes first...the chicken or the egg?

I'm seriously convinced it doesn't make an ounce of difference how I react/behave towards the officer as to whether I get to drive away with a warning or a ticket...that's all determined before he/she gets to my window. I'm normally a very nice guy to cops...their job has to suck most of the time dealing with excuses, blame, whining, cussing, and the downright worst of people. The only time I get a bit testy is when I know 100% that I wasn't doing what they claim I was doing (has happened twice on speeding tickets), or when they treat me like an incompetent. No matter the approach, I've gotten tickets being a nice guy, and gotten off with warning when being a dick, and vice-versa.

I have a poor driving record (over a dozen speeding tickets in the past 7 years, but nothing else...no running red lights or stop signs, no DUI's, no accidents, etc)...so I likely don't deserve much "benefit of the doubt"...and I certainly don't enter a conversation expecting it. But for those who claim that the way you treat the cop will determine your fate...I guess my experience just hasn't seen that to be true. Most of the officers who I've interacted with seem predisposed to the result before the first words are spoken - whatever that result may be - and little that I do will influence that one way or another.
Don't know what to tell you about times that you thought you weren't doing anything wrong, there are some bad apples out there. With a record like yours, it wouldn't matter if you were as nice as can be to me, you would get a tag for what you got stopped for. If you have more than 12 tags in 7 years, think how much you speed?
But I will say that being nice will get you out of far more tickets than arguing or being a jerk. It won't always work, but it's worth a shot.
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Let me tell you whats going here. The police officer doesn't know who you are, where you are coming from etc... All they know is what their dispatch is relaying to them. (This is what the guy behind you is telling them on the phone) The officer then has to determine what is going on by talking to you to get your side of what is going on.

The reason that the officer says don't put your hands in your pocket is because they don't know if you are armed or not. When you deal with complete strangers all the time, many of which are bad people and may try to do you harm, you take certain steps to ensure your safety. Cops have a duty to go home to their families at the end of their shift and they act accordingly.

If you think someone is following you, drive to the nearest police station. or an open store, or somewhere people are around.

Don't be doing accelaration runs in town. Your driving of speeding up and slowing down does look suspscious. And when you speed up and flip a u when the cops are there, of course you will get stopped.

Cops have an obligation to stop cars they get complaints on. If they let a drunk go and they get into a wreck, then it's somehow the cops fault for not stopping them.

As mentioned earlier, people today don't take any responsibility for their own actions. "It's not my fault for driving erratically and making the illegal u-turn, it's this lady cop's fault for being "mean" and giving me a ticket" You made the decision to drive like that, now accept the consequences of your behavior.
I just believe that the cops were treating me bad and not giving me a chance to prove my situation of fear. This U-Turn I was ticketed for was from my fear of this crazy man behind me; I didnt see a cop down the road b/c it was like 11pm. I took the U-Turn because I didnt know what else to do to get away from the guy; The U-Turn was a choice from my stomach, not my way of driving fast or "cool" if you know what I mean.. It was a decision I made to get away, thats why I thought the cops were being lame because they didnt understand the reason I did that; nor did they have any proof of me "speeding" which the guy told them. idk i just get mad at bullshit
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Old 09-15-2009, 11:08 AM   #42
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this is not related to cops but about respect or dissrespect while driving my Camaro , I went to the local county fair about a month ago , and pulled into the main lot and it's all stones but there is a section very close to the gate where you walk in that is paved when the guy saw me coming in he looked directly at me and something in me told me he was going to do what he did , He waved me further in and said as I pulled up to him , you cant drive this car on those stones buddy .Pull up there onto the paved area and park it and we never had this conversation he said . Seems like there is a feeling of gratefulness in some people that you bought a chevy camaro again , it makes people happy . I can see whole families in their cars sometimes smiling when I pass by !!
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